News Flash: We still don't have a Federal Budget!

[Little-Acorn]

Pretty much everybody is aware of how the Democrats in the Senate refused to pass a budget, in defiance of Constitutional requirements, for nearly four long years. Not even one they wrote themselves. And people celebrated several months ago, when the Senate Dems finally passed one. Republicans in the House had passed budgets regularly, every year they had held the majority.

Well, guess what. CONGRESS HAS STILL NEVER PASSED A BUDGET in all that time. And that remains true today.

The Fed Govt only "has a budget" when the House and Senate both agree on the SAME budget, both pass that same budget, and the President signs it. And that still hasn't happened in four years. Republicans point out that the Dems still have no plans to balance the budget EVER, while Republican budgets are projected to balance within 10 years. Not perfect by any means, since debt keeps climbing until that time, but at least they're moving in the right direction.

But if you think the "budget crisis" came to an end when the Democrats at long last finally passed a "budget" in the Senate, think again.

From 2013 United States debt-ceiling debate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia :

On March 21st, the house passed a FY 2014 budget that would balance the united states budget in 2023. This was a large improvement over their 2013 budget, which balanced in 2035, and especially over their 2012 budget, which balanced in 2063. It passed the house on a mostly party-line 221-207 vote. However, later that day, the Senate voted 59-40 to reject the house republican budget, so the budget did not become law.[14]

On March 23rd, the senate passed its own 2014 budget on a 50-49 vote. While the senate budget did include deficit reduction, it was projected to never result in a balanced budget, and was therefore criticized by republicans and even a few democrats. The House refused to hold a vote on the Senate Budget, and criticized both it and the president's budget (which was also projected to never result in a balanced budget), released in mid-april and never voted on by either house of congress, for failing to really address America's debt problem.[15]

 

[hortysir]

Thank you for that

 

[Clementine]

I thought they were obligated, as per the constitution, to submit a budget each year. I guess rules don't apply when the liberals are in charge. Hey, why don't we all just ignore Obamacare law when they finally impose it on us?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

We don't need a budget where we're going......

 

[ScienceRocks]

Obama won't get one his entire presidency...

 

[hortysir]

We don't need a budget where we're going......

 

[ScienceRocks]

Obama should have a budget that funds infrastructure, science and tech...Start cutting welfare back to 2008 levels.

 

[blackhawk]

I believe more and more every day the government is at its best when it's doing nothing.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

There's no need for a budget, we simply print tens of billions of dollars every month to make up the difference...

Yep, nothing bad will come of that...

 

[g5000]

Pretty much everybody is aware of how the Democrats in the Senate refused to pass a budget, in defiance of Constitutional requirements, for nearly four long years.

I hear this meme parroted often. Would you please cite the text in the Constitution which requires Congress to pass an annual budget?

 

[Glendower]

Pretty much everybody is aware of how the Democrats in the Senate refused to pass a budget, in defiance of Constitutional requirements, for nearly four long years. Not even one they wrote themselves. And people celebrated several months ago, when the Senate Dems finally passed one. Republicans in the House had passed budgets regularly, every year they had held the majority.

Well, guess what. CONGRESS HAS STILL NEVER PASSED A BUDGET in all that time. And that remains true today.

The Fed Govt only "has a budget" when the House and Senate both agree on the SAME budget, both pass that same budget, and the President signs it. And that still hasn't happened in four years. Republicans point out that the Dems still have no plans to balance the budget EVER, while Republican budgets are projected to balance within 10 years. Not perfect by any means, since debt keeps climbing until that time, but at least they're moving in the right direction.

But if you think the "budget crisis" came to an end when the Democrats at long last finally passed a "budget" in the Senate, think again.


On March 21st, the house passed a FY 2014 budget that would balance the united states budget in 2023. This was a large improvement over their 2013 budget, which balanced in 2035, and especially over their 2012 budget, which balanced in 2063. It passed the house on a mostly party-line 221-207 vote. However, later that day, the Senate voted 59-40 to reject the house republican budget, so the budget did not become law.[14]

On March 23rd, the senate passed its own 2014 budget on a 50-49 vote. While the senate budget did include deficit reduction, it was projected to never result in a balanced budget, and was therefore criticized by republicans and even a few democrats. The House refused to hold a vote on the Senate Budget, and criticized both it and the president's budget (which was also projected to never result in a balanced budget), released in mid-april and never voted on by either house of congress, for failing to really address America's debt problem.[15]

[/QUOTE]

Here is the thing however. The House Republicans are refusing to even go to Conference (what is known as regular orders) to come up with a compromise. The Senate has appointed it Conferee's but he House refuses to appoint theirs. The House Republicans refuse to negotiate the final budget bill unless the final outcome is identical to what they passed in the House. The ball is squarely in the House Republican's court.

 

[g5000]

Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text

No money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.

Article 1, Section 9, Clause 7.


Not an annual requirement.

And a Continuing Resolution satisifies this Constitutional requirement.

 

[g5000]

It is the General Accounting Act of 1921 which requires an annual budget to be submitted by the President every year, between the first Monday in January and the first Monday in February.

Not the Constitution.

And as far as I know, the Act does not require Congress to approve the President's budget.

 

[hortysir]

Article I - The Legislative Branch
Section 7

Clause 1:

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

Clause 2:

Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

 

[francoHFW]

Thanks to the "no compromise, un-American Tea Party GOP" (TIME). Doesn't matter, this year's deficit is down 30% and will probably balance when the GOP allows a full recovery...

 

[ScienceRocks]

Thanks to the "no compromise, un-American Tea Party GOP" (TIME). Doesn't matter, this year's deficit is down 30% and will probably balance when the GOP allows a full recovery...

This is good franco!

 

[francoHFW]

As long as this new idiot GOP is around, no budget will pass. Doesn't MATTER, dupes. Thanks, Sean Rushbeck.

 

[Flopper]

Pretty much everybody is aware of how the Democrats in the Senate refused to pass a budget, in defiance of Constitutional requirements, for nearly four long years. Not even one they wrote themselves. And people celebrated several months ago, when the Senate Dems finally passed one. Republicans in the House had passed budgets regularly, every year they had held the majority.

Well, guess what. CONGRESS HAS STILL NEVER PASSED A BUDGET in all that time. And that remains true today.

The Fed Govt only "has a budget" when the House and Senate both agree on the SAME budget, both pass that same budget, and the President signs it. And that still hasn't happened in four years. Republicans point out that the Dems still have no plans to balance the budget EVER, while Republican budgets are projected to balance within 10 years. Not perfect by any means, since debt keeps climbing until that time, but at least they're moving in the right direction.

But if you think the "budget crisis" came to an end when the Democrats at long last finally passed a "budget" in the Senate, think again.

From 2013 United States debt-ceiling debate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia :

On March 21st, the house passed a FY 2014 budget that would balance the united states budget in 2023. This was a large improvement over their 2013 budget, which balanced in 2035, and especially over their 2012 budget, which balanced in 2063. It passed the house on a mostly party-line 221-207 vote. However, later that day, the Senate voted 59-40 to reject the house republican budget, so the budget did not become law.[14]

On March 23rd, the senate passed its own 2014 budget on a 50-49 vote. While the senate budget did include deficit reduction, it was projected to never result in a balanced budget, and was therefore criticized by republicans and even a few democrats. The House refused to hold a vote on the Senate Budget, and criticized both it and the president's budget (which was also projected to never result in a balanced budget), released in mid-april and never voted on by either house of congress, for failing to really address America's debt problem.[15]

For a budget resolution to take effect, it must either have the cooperation of Republicans, or at least 60 votes in the Senate. That means Republican must work with the Democrats to pass a budget, which of course they aren't going to do. Republicans have no interest in passing a budget. To do so, takes an issue off the table in the midterms.

 

[Flopper]

I thought they were obligated, as per the constitution, to submit a budget each year. I guess rules don't apply when the liberals are in charge. Hey, why don't we all just ignore Obamacare law when they finally impose it on us?

The president is required to submit a budget to Congress, which he has done.

 

[Mr. H.]

Over $40 billion in new taxes on the oil and gas industries alone. Residing in Obubba's budget.
Why? Inquiring minds want to know.