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No rule, no safety equipment, no nothing would have stopped that train from derailment iin Ohin

tyroneweaver

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rules and fires don't stop negelegence by a conductor
that axel was on fire for who knows how long and totally ignored

 
Yep, looks like a frozen bearing or a seized air brake or something just kept getting hotter until it melted and failed. Definite maintenance issue.
 
They were trying to stop the train because the “hot box detectors” showed wheel bearing was burning. When the old style brakes were applied without the electric brake system, 38 of 150 cars from the nearly 2 mile long train all piled up in a huge crash.
 
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rules and fires don't stop negelegence by a conductor
that axel was on fire for who knows how long and totally ignored

Well there's you disproving your own claim in the very same post!
 
rules and fires don't stop negelegence by a conductor
that axel was on fire for who knows how long and totally ignored

The left are so quick to blame someone over what could very well be an accident, not Trump's fault, not the railroad's fault. We live in a society where accidents of all kinds happen. But it was they who said, "Never let a good crisis go to waste". Therefore, let's blame it on Trump or the railroad, even if it was just a fluke accident.

It's kind of like the gun thing. The left always clamor for common sense gun control legislation after shootings and yet in just about every single shooting they say that after, no common sense gun control legislation they have proposed would have actually stopped the very shooting they were talking about.
 
rules and fires don't stop negelegence by a conductor
that axel was on fire for who knows how long and totally ignored


Sure, blame the worker without the slightest justification.

Blame … the “conductor.”

Only there is normally no “conductor” on such trains!
(If there is a “conductor” he basically assists when the train hooks up with or drops off cars along the route, handles paperwork, etc. He generally knows less than the engineer about the train’s safety and operation when it is actually running.)

Modern electrical pneumatic breaking — which this train did not have — allows also for computerized safety transmissions from every car, including the rear cars — and their so-called “hot boxes” or other safety equipment — which gets transmitted from every car to the lead locomotive, where the engineer is.

In my own career operating trains (retired in 2005) I have personally observed several with serious sparking and even major fires on them, which the train operator up front had no idea about — and no way of finding out about — unless somebody on the ground or another train observed it and radioed the information to him.

Also see: Huge Train accident in East Palestine
 
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rules and fires don't stop negelegence by a conductor
that axel was on fire for who knows how long and totally ignored

But that conductor was a Trump supporter....
Orange Man bad!
 
Sure, blame the worker without the slightest justification.

Blame … the “conductor.”

Only there is normally no conductor on such trains!

Modern electrical pneumatic breaking — which this train did not have — allows also for computerized safety transmissions from every car, including the rear cars — and their so-called “hot boxes” or other safety equipment — which gets transmitted from every car to the lead locomotive, where the engineer is.

In my own career operating trains (retired in 2005) I have personally observed several with serious sparking and even major fires on them, which the train operator up front had no idea about — and no way of finding out about — unless somebody on the ground or another train observed it and radioed the information to him.

Also see: Huge Train accident in East Palestine
That's because you can't see them when you are pulling 2 miles of train behind you. Engineers & locomotives should be spaced every 50 cars to distribute push, pull & keep an eye on the cars.

The East Palestine detector alerted the crew with an audible message instructing them to stop the train to inspect the hot axle. “The train engineer increased the dynamic brake application to further slow and stop the train,” the NTSB said. “During this deceleration, an automatic emergency brake application initiated, and train 32N came to a stop.”
 
There should be a regulation requiring trains to stay ON the tracks.

Problem solved.


Oh, and ORANGE MAN BAD!
 

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