OBAMA AND LOW WAGES

[Sonny Clark]

What does Obama think are the reasons behind low wages? He explains here:

OBAMA: Here's why people aren't getting paid more:

Obama On Income Inequality - Business Insider

(1) -- Technology, automation, and innovation
(2) -- Corporate concentrated on profits
(3) -- Foreign investment
(4) -- Minimum wages worth less than in the 70's

_________________________________________________________________________________

Where are the policies to reverse the low wage trend?

 

[candycorn]

What does Obama think are the reasons behind low wages? He explains here:

OBAMA: Here's why people aren't getting paid more:

Obama On Income Inequality - Business Insider

(1) -- Technology, automation, and innovation
(2) -- Corporate concentrated on profits
(3) -- Foreign investment
(4) -- Minimum wages worth less than in the 70's

_________________________________________________________________________________

Where are the policies to reverse the low wage trend?

Having a college-educated workforce would result in higher wages. Obama proposed paying for college (the first 2 years) for some folks.

How many Republicans have co-signed his proposal?

 

[Sonny Clark]

What does Obama think are the reasons behind low wages? He explains here:

OBAMA: Here's why people aren't getting paid more:

Obama On Income Inequality - Business Insider

(1) -- Technology, automation, and innovation
(2) -- Corporate concentrated on profits
(3) -- Foreign investment
(4) -- Minimum wages worth less than in the 70's

_________________________________________________________________________________

Where are the policies to reverse the low wage trend?

Having a college-educated workforce would result in higher wages. Obama proposed paying for college (the first 2 years) for some folks.

How many Republicans have co-signed his proposal?

A college education does little good if there are no jobs for college educated workers. Look at how many college grads are unemployed, underemployed, living at home with parents, or just flipping burgers to have a little money in their pockets. A college education is NO guarantee of being able to be self-supporting.

 

[candycorn]

What does Obama think are the reasons behind low wages? He explains here:

OBAMA: Here's why people aren't getting paid more:

Obama On Income Inequality - Business Insider

(1) -- Technology, automation, and innovation
(2) -- Corporate concentrated on profits
(3) -- Foreign investment
(4) -- Minimum wages worth less than in the 70's

_________________________________________________________________________________

Where are the policies to reverse the low wage trend?

Having a college-educated workforce would result in higher wages. Obama proposed paying for college (the first 2 years) for some folks.
Gmail
How many Republicans have co-signed his proposal?

A college education does little good if there are no jobs for college educated workers. Look at how many college grads are unemployed, underemployed, living at home with parents, or just flipping burgers to have a little money in their pockets. A college education is NO guarantee of being able to be self-supporting.

We're going to hire hundreds of nurses this year...I've credentialed every one of them. Add that to the 2,000+ our healthcare system has nationwide. This is to say nothing of the technicians, physicians, MA's and other specialists we will be hiring. And this is just one health care system. There are four more that will do the same thing as we are doing.

While it's true that a college education does little to ensure anything, it's false that there are no jobs out there. There are. You're exhibiting lazy research.

 

[Sonny Clark]

What does Obama think are the reasons behind low wages? He explains here:

OBAMA: Here's why people aren't getting paid more:

Obama On Income Inequality - Business Insider

(1) -- Technology, automation, and innovation
(2) -- Corporate concentrated on profits
(3) -- Foreign investment
(4) -- Minimum wages worth less than in the 70's

_________________________________________________________________________________

Where are the policies to reverse the low wage trend?

Having a college-educated workforce would result in higher wages. Obama proposed paying for college (the first 2 years) for some folks.
Gmail
How many Republicans have co-signed his proposal?

A college education does little good if there are no jobs for college educated workers. Look at how many college grads are unemployed, underemployed, living at home with parents, or just flipping burgers to have a little money in their pockets. A college education is NO guarantee of being able to be self-supporting.

We're going to hire hundreds of nurses this year...I've credentialed every one of them. Add that to the 2,000+ our healthcare system has nationwide. This is to say nothing of the technicians, physicians, MA's and other specialists we will be hiring. And this is just one health care system. There are four more that will do the same thing as we are doing.

While it's true that a college education does little to ensure anything, it's false that there are no jobs out there. There are. You're exhibiting lazy research.

Yes, I agree that we have a shortage of health care workers, and have had for many years now. Yes, there are plenty of jobs available for those in the health care profession. Yes, there are jobs available in other fields also, I agree. But, we do NOT have an adequate number of living wage jobs that cover all education and skill levels. We have high unemployment. We have workers underemployed. We have many workers working part-time jobs. We have many college grads living at home with parents due to a shortage of jobs. Yes, there are jobs available. But, are there enough jobs available, and do they cover all education and skill levels?

Most people want to be self-supporting and independent. Most people want a good paying job. Most people are not fond of being poor and dependent. People do NOT like living in poverty. Yes, people do want to work. Now, where are all of those jobs that cover all education and skill levels?

 

[DGS49]

The facts on "living wage" jobs are not difficult to understand, but there is no obvious solution.

Between the end of WWII and the 1970's, America had lots of good jobs for people with no credential other than a willingness to go to work every day. They could work in manufacturing, construction, driving trucks, sales, and dozens of other areas. In my area (Greater Pittsburgh), it was not at all unusual for a high school grad to have a non-working wife, kids, a house, and a new car by the time he was 25, just by working at the local steel mill (or similar). In fact, most of those guys at age 25 were making more than most of their friends who had gone to college.

And most of these jobs simply do not exist anymore, and they will never come back. Automation dramatically reduced the labor-content of manufactured goods, and international competition has made it impossible to pay unskilled people a "living wage" just to show up and do repetitive tasks.

You could give the entire population a college degree, or teach them a trade, but the facts aren't going to change much.

Increasing the minimum wage improves the compensation for those who are working bottom-end jobs, but people who propose it never mention where the additional money comes from, or what happens to those at the bottom of the pile - perpetual unemployment.

In evaluating "government-based" solutions to this problem, one should keep in mind that there are jobs that are a net addition to the economy (manufacturing, services, agriculture, construction), and jobs that are a net drain on the economy (mainly government jobs). We DON'T need more jobs that are a net drain on the economy (government workers, teachers, firemen, police, ATS, etc). That is the "Greek Solution," and Our Beloved President, never having had a real job in his life, doesn't appreciate the difference between the two types of jobs.

 

[Sonny Clark]

The facts on "living wage" jobs are not difficult to understand, but there is no obvious solution.

Between the end of WWII and the 1970's, America had lots of good jobs for people with no credential other than a willingness to go to work every day. They could work in manufacturing, construction, driving trucks, sales, and dozens of other areas. In my area (Greater Pittsburgh), it was not at all unusual for a high school grad to have a non-working wife, kids, a house, and a new car by the time he was 25, just by working at the local steel mill (or similar). In fact, most of those guys at age 25 were making more than most of their friends who had gone to college.

And most of these jobs simply do not exist anymore, and they will never come back. Automation dramatically reduced the labor-content of manufactured goods, and international competition has made it impossible to pay unskilled people a "living wage" just to show up and do repetitive tasks.

You could give the entire population a college degree, or teach them a trade, but the facts aren't going to change much.

Increasing the minimum wage improves the compensation for those who are working bottom-end jobs, but people who propose it never mention where the additional money comes from, or what happens to those at the bottom of the pile - perpetual unemployment.

In evaluating "government-based" solutions to this problem, one should keep in mind that there are jobs that are a net addition to the economy (manufacturing, services, agriculture, construction), and jobs that are a net drain on the economy (mainly government jobs). We DON'T need more jobs that are a net drain on the economy (government workers, teachers, firemen, police, ATS, etc). That is the "Greek Solution," and Our Beloved President, never having had a real job in his life, doesn't appreciate the difference between the two types of jobs.

Yes, I do understand about how and when our jobs market went downhill, it's been obvious for a very long time now. I have written about it for many years now. I saw this coming decades ago. Yes, after WWII we started a very prosperous boom era, one that lasted until the mid to late 70's. What happened is also very obvious. We sacrificed our economic well-being in favor of supporting foreign economies. We started closing our plants and factories, lost many industries, and started importing what we used and consumed. We became consumers, and not producers. We become import dependent. We lost the textile, steel, furniture, automotive parts, tool, toy, electronics, farm equipment, housewares, and other industries to cheap foreign labor markets around the world.

We became unemployed due to our unfair, unjust, and one-sided foreign trade agreements and policies. We allowed un-penalized off-shore job out-sourcing, the importing of labor, and the hiring of illegal immigrants. We allowed unions to price themselves out of jobs. We opened the doors to poverty, low wages, and long unemployment lines. We have reached a point where America no longer produces what America uses and consumes. Yes, I agree that businesses are producing more with less employees. Yes, I agree that technology, automation, and innovation has eliminated the need for certain employees. But, what about those jobs that we have sent to foreign labor markets? What about the un-penalized off-shore job out-sourcing? What about the millions of illegal immigrants living and working in this country? What about the importing of labor? And, what would be wrong with fair, equal, and balanced foreign trade agreements and policies?

The term "Global Economy" actually means "equalization to the lowest level". Are we to continue lowering our standard of living, work for low wages, and be satisfied with a citizenry dependent on government assistance programs and unemployment checks? Are we to be content importing what we use and consume, and be satisfied with a citizenry unemployed, poor, and dependent? Are we going to throw in the towel and accept our path to third world status?

 

[candycorn]

What does Obama think are the reasons behind low wages? He explains here:

OBAMA: Here's why people aren't getting paid more:

Obama On Income Inequality - Business Insider

(1) -- Technology, automation, and innovation
(2) -- Corporate concentrated on profits
(3) -- Foreign investment
(4) -- Minimum wages worth less than in the 70's

_________________________________________________________________________________

Where are the policies to reverse the low wage trend?

Having a college-educated workforce would result in higher wages. Obama proposed paying for college (the first 2 years) for some folks.
Gmail
How many Republicans have co-signed his proposal?

A college education does little good if there are no jobs for college educated workers. Look at how many college grads are unemployed, underemployed, living at home with parents, or just flipping burgers to have a little money in their pockets. A college education is NO guarantee of being able to be self-supporting.

We're going to hire hundreds of nurses this year...I've credentialed every one of them. Add that to the 2,000+ our healthcare system has nationwide. This is to say nothing of the technicians, physicians, MA's and other specialists we will be hiring. And this is just one health care system. There are four more that will do the same thing as we are doing.

While it's true that a college education does little to ensure anything, it's false that there are no jobs out there. There are. You're exhibiting lazy research.

Yes, I agree that we have a shortage of health care workers, and have had for many years now. Yes, there are plenty of jobs available for those in the health care profession. Yes, there are jobs available in other fields also, I agree. But, we do NOT have an adequate number of living wage jobs that cover all education and skill levels.

Society went and got all automated and shit.... When I grew up, the teachers told us that you get your diploma, go to work at the steel plant (Armco Steel) and work there for 30 years. The plant closed when I was in 9th grade.

Those living wage jobs for high school drop outs and those who refuse to get any advanced training are gone and they are not coming back. This was happening during the late 1980's.

We have high unemployment. We have workers underemployed. We have many workers working part-time jobs. We have many college grads living at home with parents due to a shortage of jobs. Yes, there are jobs available. But, are there enough jobs available, and do they cover all education and skill levels?

Most people want to be self-supporting and independent. Most people want a good paying job. Most people are not fond of being poor and dependent. People do NOT like living in poverty. Yes, people do want to work. Now, where are all of those jobs that cover all education and skill levels?

You're sort of all over the map here.

If you are asking me if the White House has been responsive enough, I'll say no. We have under employed who make too much to qualify for aid which always bewildered me...long before this administration took office but he deserves blame for not fixing it.

I would like to see the HHS become empowered to investigate the those getting the aid and shut off the spigot for those who are truly not at the bottom of the societal totem pole. When I do bring this up...a lot of conservatives reject having a more investigative, punitive government.

 

[Marvin Zinn]

What does Obama think are the reasons behind low wages? He explains here:

OBAMA: Here's why people aren't getting paid more:

Obama On Income Inequality - Business Insider

(1) -- Technology, automation, and innovation
(2) -- Corporate concentrated on profits
(3) -- Foreign investment
(4) -- Minimum wages worth less than in the 70's

_________________________________________________________________________________

Where are the policies to reverse the low wage trend?

The only solution is for stupid customers to be willing to pay a fair amount for what they buy, instead of anything made by a slave in China, or any corporation like WalMart that does not treat their employees well. If that is not done quickly, more employees will be replaced by robots, and only that education to design replacement will obtain well paid jobs.

 

[Sonny Clark]

What does Obama think are the reasons behind low wages? He explains here:

OBAMA: Here's why people aren't getting paid more:

Obama On Income Inequality - Business Insider

(1) -- Technology, automation, and innovation
(2) -- Corporate concentrated on profits
(3) -- Foreign investment
(4) -- Minimum wages worth less than in the 70's

_________________________________________________________________________________

Where are the policies to reverse the low wage trend?

Having a college-educated workforce would result in higher wages. Obama proposed paying for college (the first 2 years) for some folks.
Gmail
How many Republicans have co-signed his proposal?

A college education does little good if there are no jobs for college educated workers. Look at how many college grads are unemployed, underemployed, living at home with parents, or just flipping burgers to have a little money in their pockets. A college education is NO guarantee of being able to be self-supporting.

We're going to hire hundreds of nurses this year...I've credentialed every one of them. Add that to the 2,000+ our healthcare system has nationwide. This is to say nothing of the technicians, physicians, MA's and other specialists we will be hiring. And this is just one health care system. There are four more that will do the same thing as we are doing.

While it's true that a college education does little to ensure anything, it's false that there are no jobs out there. There are. You're exhibiting lazy research.

Yes, I agree that we have a shortage of health care workers, and have had for many years now. Yes, there are plenty of jobs available for those in the health care profession. Yes, there are jobs available in other fields also, I agree. But, we do NOT have an adequate number of living wage jobs that cover all education and skill levels.

Society went and got all automated and shit.... When I grew up, the teachers told us that you get your diploma, go to work at the steel plant (Armco Steel) and work there for 30 years. The plant closed when I was in 9th grade.

Those living wage jobs for high school drop outs and those who refuse to get any advanced training are gone and they are not coming back. This was happening during the late 1980's.

We have high unemployment. We have workers underemployed. We have many workers working part-time jobs. We have many college grads living at home with parents due to a shortage of jobs. Yes, there are jobs available. But, are there enough jobs available, and do they cover all education and skill levels?

Most people want to be self-supporting and independent. Most people want a good paying job. Most people are not fond of being poor and dependent. People do NOT like living in poverty. Yes, people do want to work. Now, where are all of those jobs that cover all education and skill levels?

You're sort of all over the map here.

If you are asking me if the White House has been responsive enough, I'll say no. We have under employed who make too much to qualify for aid which always bewildered me...long before this administration took office but he deserves blame for not fixing it.

I would like to see the HHS become empowered to investigate the those getting the aid and shut off the spigot for those who are truly not at the bottom of the societal totem pole. When I do bring this up...a lot of conservatives reject having a more investigative, punitive government.

Why not investigate the crooks in Washington first, then investigate the public crooks? The Washington crooks take way more than those in private life.

 

[Sonny Clark]

What does Obama think are the reasons behind low wages? He explains here:

OBAMA: Here's why people aren't getting paid more:

Obama On Income Inequality - Business Insider

(1) -- Technology, automation, and innovation
(2) -- Corporate concentrated on profits
(3) -- Foreign investment
(4) -- Minimum wages worth less than in the 70's

_________________________________________________________________________________

Where are the policies to reverse the low wage trend?

The only solution is for stupid customers to be willing to pay a fair amount for what they buy, instead of anything made by a slave in China, or any corporation like WalMart that does not treat their employees well. If that is not done quickly, more employees will be replaced by robots, and only that education to design replacement will obtain well paid jobs.

That's not the only solution, by a long shot. What about re-writing our unfair, unjust, and one-sided foreign trade agreements and policies, so that they become fair, equal, and balanced foreign trade agreements and policies? Why not severely penalize off-shore job out-sourcing, the importing of labor, and severely punish those hiring or helping illegal immigrants? Why not put America back to work, producing what America uses and consumes? Why not elect pro-America representatives to sit in Washington D.C.?

 

[Conservative65]

What does Obama think are the reasons behind low wages? He explains here:

OBAMA: Here's why people aren't getting paid more:

Obama On Income Inequality - Business Insider

(1) -- Technology, automation, and innovation
(2) -- Corporate concentrated on profits
(3) -- Foreign investment
(4) -- Minimum wages worth less than in the 70's

_________________________________________________________________________________

Where are the policies to reverse the low wage trend?

Having a college-educated workforce would result in higher wages. Obama proposed paying for college (the first 2 years) for some folks.

How many Republicans have co-signed his proposal?

HE'S not proposing paying for it. He's proposing taxpayers pay for yet another handout to the entitlement minded people.

 

[candycorn]

Having a college-educated workforce would result in higher wages. Obama proposed paying for college (the first 2 years) for some folks.
Gmail
How many Republicans have co-signed his proposal?

A college education does little good if there are no jobs for college educated workers. Look at how many college grads are unemployed, underemployed, living at home with parents, or just flipping burgers to have a little money in their pockets. A college education is NO guarantee of being able to be self-supporting.

We're going to hire hundreds of nurses this year...I've credentialed every one of them. Add that to the 2,000+ our healthcare system has nationwide. This is to say nothing of the technicians, physicians, MA's and other specialists we will be hiring. And this is just one health care system. There are four more that will do the same thing as we are doing.

While it's true that a college education does little to ensure anything, it's false that there are no jobs out there. There are. You're exhibiting lazy research.

Yes, I agree that we have a shortage of health care workers, and have had for many years now. Yes, there are plenty of jobs available for those in the health care profession. Yes, there are jobs available in other fields also, I agree. But, we do NOT have an adequate number of living wage jobs that cover all education and skill levels.

Society went and got all automated and shit.... When I grew up, the teachers told us that you get your diploma, go to work at the steel plant (Armco Steel) and work there for 30 years. The plant closed when I was in 9th grade.

Those living wage jobs for high school drop outs and those who refuse to get any advanced training are gone and they are not coming back. This was happening during the late 1980's.

We have high unemployment. We have workers underemployed. We have many workers working part-time jobs. We have many college grads living at home with parents due to a shortage of jobs. Yes, there are jobs available. But, are there enough jobs available, and do they cover all education and skill levels?

Most people want to be self-supporting and independent. Most people want a good paying job. Most people are not fond of being poor and dependent. People do NOT like living in poverty. Yes, people do want to work. Now, where are all of those jobs that cover all education and skill levels?

You're sort of all over the map here.

If you are asking me if the White House has been responsive enough, I'll say no. We have under employed who make too much to qualify for aid which always bewildered me...long before this administration took office but he deserves blame for not fixing it.

I would like to see the HHS become empowered to investigate the those getting the aid and shut off the spigot for those who are truly not at the bottom of the societal totem pole. When I do bring this up...a lot of conservatives reject having a more investigative, punitive government.

Why not investigate the crooks in Washington first, then investigate the public crooks? The Washington crooks take way more than those in private life.

Internal audit should be compulsory but it isn't...we both know that. As soon as any audit reveals anything; the other side yells mis-management followed by calls for impeachment.

Meanwhile, those who approve Mr. or Ms. Doe for benefits would be the first ones to tell you that they wish they could question them as to why they have an I-Phone and can't supply basic goods; why they have the latest fashions or high end automobiles and cannot afford milk for their children.

Did you know that the government usually doesn't argue against anyone getting Social Security disability?

Trends With Benefits This American Life

 

[candycorn]

What does Obama think are the reasons behind low wages? He explains here:

OBAMA: Here's why people aren't getting paid more:

Obama On Income Inequality - Business Insider

(1) -- Technology, automation, and innovation
(2) -- Corporate concentrated on profits
(3) -- Foreign investment
(4) -- Minimum wages worth less than in the 70's

_________________________________________________________________________________

Where are the policies to reverse the low wage trend?

Having a college-educated workforce would result in higher wages. Obama proposed paying for college (the first 2 years) for some folks.

How many Republicans have co-signed his proposal?

HE'S not proposing paying for it. He's proposing taxpayers pay for yet another handout to the entitlement minded people.

Do you disagree with it on principle?

 

[Conservative65]

What does Obama think are the reasons behind low wages? He explains here:

OBAMA: Here's why people aren't getting paid more:

Obama On Income Inequality - Business Insider

(1) -- Technology, automation, and innovation
(2) -- Corporate concentrated on profits
(3) -- Foreign investment
(4) -- Minimum wages worth less than in the 70's

_________________________________________________________________________________

Where are the policies to reverse the low wage trend?

Having a college-educated workforce would result in higher wages. Obama proposed paying for college (the first 2 years) for some folks.

How many Republicans have co-signed his proposal?

HE'S not proposing paying for it. He's proposing taxpayers pay for yet another handout to the entitlement minded people.

Do you disagree with it on principle?

Yes. It's not my place as a taxpayer to do for someone else's kid what someone else won't do for his own. People keep saying having a college educated workforce would result in higher wages yet more and more have gone to college over the past 30 years and the same ones that say what you say keep complaining about wagers being lower. Which one is it.

 

[candycorn]

What does Obama think are the reasons behind low wages? He explains here:

OBAMA: Here's why people aren't getting paid more:

Obama On Income Inequality - Business Insider

(1) -- Technology, automation, and innovation
(2) -- Corporate concentrated on profits
(3) -- Foreign investment
(4) -- Minimum wages worth less than in the 70's

_________________________________________________________________________________

Where are the policies to reverse the low wage trend?

Having a college-educated workforce would result in higher wages. Obama proposed paying for college (the first 2 years) for some folks.

How many Republicans have co-signed his proposal?

HE'S not proposing paying for it. He's proposing taxpayers pay for yet another handout to the entitlement minded people.

Do you disagree with it on principle?

Yes. It's not my place as a taxpayer to do for someone else's kid what someone else won't do for his own. People keep saying having a college educated workforce would result in higher wages yet more and more have gone to college over the past 30 years and the same ones that say what you say keep complaining about wagers being lower. Which one is it.

Have you heard me complain about wages being lower for college graduates? I don't think you have. I also doubt that you have heard any serious commentator say anything of the sort.

What you have likely heard was that wages are not keeping pace with the cost of living regardless of college degree qualifications or not and that the wage disparity between those who do the work and those who take credit for the work on CNBC and in the business media is at an all time high.

College educated people, on average, make much more than those without college educations. This is a fact. Here are some sources that you're too smart to have to look at but those interested will:






If you cannot see how having more college educated persons paying taxes benefits you...well...you're pretty hopeless. But hey, lets use the money that would go to educating the masses and build another missile that we will likely never fire, or another submarine that will never sink anything or build another stadium for a team whose tickets most tax payers cannot afford. That'll advance our culture.

 

[Conservative65]

What does Obama think are the reasons behind low wages? He explains here:

OBAMA: Here's why people aren't getting paid more:

Obama On Income Inequality - Business Insider

(1) -- Technology, automation, and innovation
(2) -- Corporate concentrated on profits
(3) -- Foreign investment
(4) -- Minimum wages worth less than in the 70's

_________________________________________________________________________________

Where are the policies to reverse the low wage trend?

Having a college-educated workforce would result in higher wages. Obama proposed paying for college (the first 2 years) for some folks.

How many Republicans have co-signed his proposal?

HE'S not proposing paying for it. He's proposing taxpayers pay for yet another handout to the entitlement minded people.

Do you disagree with it on principle?

Yes. It's not my place as a taxpayer to do for someone else's kid what someone else won't do for his own. People keep saying having a college educated workforce would result in higher wages yet more and more have gone to college over the past 30 years and the same ones that say what you say keep complaining about wagers being lower. Which one is it.

Have you heard me complain about wages being lower for college graduates? I don't think you have. I also doubt that you have heard any serious commentator say anything of the sort.

What you have likely heard was that wages are not keeping pace with the cost of living regardless of college degree qualifications or not and that the wage disparity between those who do the work and those who take credit for the work on CNBC and in the business media is at an all time high.

College educated people, on average, make much more than those without college educations. This is a fact. Here are some sources that you're too smart to have to look at but those interested will:






If you cannot see how having more college educated persons paying taxes benefits you...well...you're pretty hopeless. But hey, lets use the money that would go to educating the masses and build another missile that we will likely never fire, or another submarine that will never sink anything or build another stadium for a team whose tickets most tax payers cannot afford. That'll advance our culture.

If you can't see that it's not my responsibility to help pay for a kid's college when his/her own parents won't do it, you're retarded. If you want your money going to fund someone else's kid go to college do so. It won't be mine because that's MY responsibility and I do it. I'll spend MY money on MY kids.

What people like you never mention is what happens to the "investment" you demand the rest of us fund for someone else's kid when that kid doesn't finish. You do realize that not everyone that goes to college actually gets a degree? Do they have to pay it back?

 

[Agit8r]

Over the last four years Obama has made numerous proposals which he claimed would increase prosperity. It is hard to say whether any of them would work or not, since not one of them was passed by the House of Representatives.​

 

[candycorn]

Having a college-educated workforce would result in higher wages. Obama proposed paying for college (the first 2 years) for some folks.

How many Republicans have co-signed his proposal?

HE'S not proposing paying for it. He's proposing taxpayers pay for yet another handout to the entitlement minded people.

Do you disagree with it on principle?

Yes. It's not my place as a taxpayer to do for someone else's kid what someone else won't do for his own. People keep saying having a college educated workforce would result in higher wages yet more and more have gone to college over the past 30 years and the same ones that say what you say keep complaining about wagers being lower. Which one is it.

Have you heard me complain about wages being lower for college graduates? I don't think you have. I also doubt that you have heard any serious commentator say anything of the sort.

What you have likely heard was that wages are not keeping pace with the cost of living regardless of college degree qualifications or not and that the wage disparity between those who do the work and those who take credit for the work on CNBC and in the business media is at an all time high.

College educated people, on average, make much more than those without college educations. This is a fact. Here are some sources that you're too smart to have to look at but those interested will:






If you cannot see how having more college educated persons paying taxes benefits you...well...you're pretty hopeless. But hey, lets use the money that would go to educating the masses and build another missile that we will likely never fire, or another submarine that will never sink anything or build another stadium for a team whose tickets most tax payers cannot afford. That'll advance our culture.

If you can't see that it's not my responsibility to help pay for a kid's college when his/her own parents won't do it, you're retarded. If you want your money going to fund someone else's kid go to college do so. It won't be mine because that's MY responsibility and I do it. I'll spend MY money on MY kids.

What people like you never mention is what happens to the "investment" you demand the rest of us fund for someone else's kid when that kid doesn't finish. You do realize that not everyone that goes to college actually gets a degree? Do they have to pay it back?

His or her parents will be doing it too...

 

[Conservative65]

Over the last four years Obama has made numerous proposals which he claimed would increase prosperity. It is hard to say whether any of them would work or not, since not one of them was passed by the House of Representatives.​

Over the last four years, the left has asked for the House to provide jobs bills. When things are passed, yet the then majority Democrat Senate refuses to bring them to the floor, it's hard to say whether or not they would work.