Obama calls Korean War a Victory

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How frigging clueless can this man be?

Like today, to afraid of China. Instead, let them win without war

Yea, victory in turn and North Korea is making nukes?



:cuckoo:

-Geaux

Obama calls Korean War a victory, honors veterans | Reuters

"Here, today, we can say with confidence that this war was no tie. Korea was a victory," Obama said to cheers from an outdoor crowd populated by war veterans from the United States and South Korea.
 
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How frigging clueless can this man be?

Like today, to afraid of China. Instead, let them win without war

Yea, victory in turn and North Korea is making nukes?



:cuckoo:

-Geaux

Obama calls Korean War a victory, honors veterans | Reuters

"Here, today, we can say with confidence that this war was no tie. Korea was a victory," Obama said to cheers from an outdoor crowd populated by war veterans from the United States and South Korea.

It was a victory. We've made the Running Dog Imperialists spend unlimited amounts of money in a vain attempt to hold back the proud and peace-loving Armies of Revolution and Liberation. Soon, we will raise high the Red Banner of...wait, what do you mean I address China next week? Where am I today? Shut off this microphone!
 
How frigging clueless can this man be?

Like today, to afraid of China. Instead, let them win without war

Yea, victory in turn and North Korea is making nukes?



:cuckoo:

-Geaux

Obama calls Korean War a victory, honors veterans | Reuters

"Here, today, we can say with confidence that this war was no tie. Korea was a victory," Obama said to cheers from an outdoor crowd populated by war veterans from the United States and South Korea.

What would you be saying if he said it was a "defeat" or "failure"?
 
How frigging clueless can this man be?

Like today, to afraid of China. Instead, let them win without war

Yea, victory in turn and North Korea is making nukes?



:cuckoo:

-Geaux

Obama calls Korean War a victory, honors veterans | Reuters

"Here, today, we can say with confidence that this war was no tie. Korea was a victory," Obama said to cheers from an outdoor crowd populated by war veterans from the United States and South Korea.

What would you be saying if he said it was a "defeat" or "failure"?

He needs a muzzle. Everything out of his mouth is borderline bullshit

-Geaux
 
Look at South Korea.

I'd say that counts as a victory.

Look at South Vietnam

It's not a victory

But who cares, the communist are in the White House anyway

-Geaux

Vietnam is doing fine. They're just as irrelevant to the world now as they were 50 years ago. At least now we're not sending Americans to die over there. Some progress I guess...
 
It depends on your idea of "victory". The side the U.S. supported is a first world nation, and the other side is a backwards shit hole. In my humble opinion, it was a victory. The fact that both sides can stare each other down across the DMZ without killing each other is actually pretty impressive.
 
Truman didn't ask congress for permission to send Troops to Korea. He used an executive order and everything that happened was his fault. We lost about 50,000 Americans in the 8 or 10 years of LBJ's war in Vietnam but we lost 55,000 Troops in the monumental fubar of the three years of Truman's war in Korea. We should all know by now that the mission was completed in less than a year but the arrogant egocentric general that Truman was afraid of turned victory into defeat.
 
As I said on another thread...Obabble talking war is like Bieber talking football.

You guys had your chance in Afghanistan and Iraq. Cheney and the GOP so completely fucked up both of those adventures that they are beyond redemption.

President Obama bit the bullet and gave the orders to take out Bin Laden. And the Al Queda has been decimated during this President's terms. You fellows gave excuse for seven years as to why you could not get him. And Bush even stated publically "Bin Laden is not a concern of mine". You murder 3000 Americans on American soil, and you are not the concern of the American President?

Whatever you qualifications are in other areas of life, you are one piss poor judge of who really understands the reasons to make war.
 
The Korean peninsula was split when the war started it is still split today the fact one side is doing better than the other today does not change the fact it's still a divided country thus the final outcome was a stalemate.
 
Truman didn't ask congress for permission to send Troops to Korea. He used an executive order and everything that happened was his fault. We lost about 50,000 Americans in the 8 or 10 years of LBJ's war in Vietnam but we lost 55,000 Troops in the monumental fubar of the three years of Truman's war in Korea. We should all know by now that the mission was completed in less than a year but the arrogant egocentric general that Truman was afraid of turned victory into defeat.

Truman fired McArthur for his idiocy in the North of Korea. However, by the same token, the Inchon landing was a brilliant peice of work. Egocentric or no, you don't fire a general until he fucks up completely when he has a record such as McArthur had.
 
The Korean peninsula was split when the war started it is still split today the fact one side is doing better than the other today does not change the fact it's still a divided country thus the final outcome was a stalemate.

The final outcome will be when the people in North Korea finally rise up and take out the present rulers. When that happens, I suspect it will make the French Revolution look bloodless.

No, the West definately won that war, for while the borders remain where they were, the lives of the citizens of the two Koreas are a stark lesson in reality for those that look to what kind of government works best.
 
Truman didn't ask congress for permission to send Troops to Korea. He used an executive order and everything that happened was his fault. We lost about 50,000 Americans in the 8 or 10 years of LBJ's war in Vietnam but we lost 55,000 Troops in the monumental fubar of the three years of Truman's war in Korea. We should all know by now that the mission was completed in less than a year but the arrogant egocentric general that Truman was afraid of turned victory into defeat.

Truman fired McArthur for his idiocy in the North of Korea. However, by the same token, the Inchon landing was a brilliant peice of work. Egocentric or no, you don't fire a general until he fucks up completely when he has a record such as McArthur had.

Unlike any other conflict in American history, Truman's executive order put Troops in Korea so it was his responsibility. The big blank space in the pop-culture understanding of the Korean Conflict is the time after the Inchon landing and before the crazy plan to "liberate the entire peninsula". The time that MacArthur planned his march to the Yalu river with exhausted Troops and depleted supply lines is the time Truman should have stepped in. The pop-culture account of Korea courtesy of the liberal media seems to skip over the time that China warned the US that they would enter the conflict is the US approached the border between NK and China.
 
The former Soviet Union split into 15 different countries. So much for Reagan's "victory". :eusa_whistle:
 
The Korean peninsula was split when the war started it is still split today the fact one side is doing better than the other today does not change the fact it's still a divided country thus the final outcome was a stalemate.

The final outcome will be when the people in North Korea finally rise up and take out the present rulers. When that happens, I suspect it will make the French Revolution look bloodless.

No, the West definately won that war, for while the borders remain where they were, the lives of the citizens of the two Koreas are a stark lesson in reality for those that look to what kind of government works best.

The North attacked to try and make all of Korea communist the goal of South Korea and it's allies was to defeat the North and make all of Korea Democratic when the shooting stopped neither side had accomplished their goal that is the classic definition of a stalemate if people want to try and spin this into something other than what it is fine whatever.
 
The Korean peninsula was split when the war started it is still split today the fact one side is doing better than the other today does not change the fact it's still a divided country thus the final outcome was a stalemate.

The final outcome will be when the people in North Korea finally rise up and take out the present rulers. When that happens, I suspect it will make the French Revolution look bloodless.

No, the West definately won that war, for while the borders remain where they were, the lives of the citizens of the two Koreas are a stark lesson in reality for those that look to what kind of government works best.

The North attacked to try and make all of Korea communist the goal of South Korea and it's allies was to defeat the North and make all of Korea Democratic when the shooting stopped neither side had accomplished their goal that is the classic definition of a stalemate if people want to try and spin this into something other than what it is fine whatever.

When is the ignorant pop-culture going to learn about the "forgotten war" and quit relying on cliches? The US/UN defeated the North Korean military and kicked them back across the 38th parallel. The NK capital of Pyongyang was taken and the NK no longer existed as a threat. A possibly demented American general decided to on a campaign to approach the Yalu River even though Red China promised to enter the conflict. To make a long story short the craziness of general MacArthur and the cowardly and detached Truman administration turned victory into a three year stalemate and a embarrassing truce.
 

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