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don't rely on Fox News.
ALL Presidents for 20 years have said the same.
"Based on the 1967 borders" is NOT the "exact 1967 borders". (the latter the Hamas position).
In fact conspicuously not.
The Prez's position is the same as Clinton and Bush/s.
"Based on 67 borders" but including Land Swaps that enable Israel to keep the near in settlements and their 300,000 residents. (Bush admin called this "recognizing facts on the ground")
Obama Transcript
Blue Virginia:: Video, Transcript of Obama's Middle East Speech. Reaction Almost Completely Predictable.
and sorry to ruin a 709 post string with the simple truth, NOT ONE poster here could find. Pathetic.
And greetings to Big Hoss, so sorry to 'lose' you from DP. (and others)
tinhorn.. wouldn't you really just like to be as straightforward as Big Hoss.
Liberate yourself.
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ALL Presidents for 20 years have said the same.
"Based on the 1967 borders" is NOT the "exact 1967 borders". (the latter the Hamas position).
In fact conspicuously not.
The Prez's position is the same as Clinton and Bush/s.
"Based on 67 borders" but including Land Swaps that enable Israel to keep the near in settlements and their 300,000 residents. (Bush admin called this "recognizing facts on the ground")
Obama Transcript
Blue Virginia:: Video, Transcript of Obama's Middle East Speech. Reaction Almost Completely Predictable.
Next time don't trust Faux News or Glenn beck or your uninformed brethren here."...As for Israel, our friendship is rooted deeply in a shared history and shared values. Our commitment to Israel's security is unshakeable. And we will stand against attempts to single it out for criticism in international forums. But precisely because of our friendship, it is important that we tell the truth: the status quo is unsustainable, and Israel too must act boldly to advance a lasting peace.
The fact is, a growing number of Palestinians live west of the Jordan River. Technology will make it harder for Israel to defend itself."..."
Ultimately, it is up to Israelis and Palestinians to take action. No peace can be imposed upon them, nor can endless delay make the problem go away. But what America and the international community can do is state frankly what everyone knows: a lasting peace will involve two states for two peoples. Israel as a Jewish state and the homeland for the Jewish people, and the state of Palestine as the homeland for the Palestinian people; each state enjoying self-determination, mutual recognition, and peace.
So while the core issues of the conflict must be negotiated, the basis of those negotiations is clear: a viable Palestine, and a secure Israel. The United States believes that negotiations should result in two states, with permanent Palestinian borders with Israel, Jordan, and Egypt, and permanent Israeli borders with Palestine. The borders of Israel and Palestine should be Based on the 1967 lines with Mutually Agreed Swaps, so that Secure and Recognized borders are established for both states. The Palestinian people must have the right to govern themselves, and reach their potential, in a sovereign and contiguous state.
As for security, every state has the right to self-defense, and Israel must be able to defend itself - by itself - against any threat. Provisions must also be robust enough to prevent a resurgence of terrorism; to Stop the infiltration of weapons; and to provide effective border security. The full and phased withdrawal of Israeli military forces should be coordinated with the assumption of Palestinian security responsibility in a sovereign, Non-militarized state."...."
These principles provide a foundation for negotiations. Palestinians should know the territorial outlines of their state; Israelis should know that their basic security concerns will be met.[....]In particular, the recent announcement of an agreement between Fatah and Hamas raises profound and legitimate questions for Israel - how can one negotiate with a party that has shown itself unwilling to recognize your right to exist. In the weeks and months to come, Palestinian Leaders will Have to provide a credible answer to that question."..."
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and sorry to ruin a 709 post string with the simple truth, NOT ONE poster here could find. Pathetic.
And greetings to Big Hoss, so sorry to 'lose' you from DP. (and others)
tinhorn.. wouldn't you really just like to be as straightforward as Big Hoss.
Liberate yourself.
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