Obama traitor to united states

[terror of tantr]

o well, time to find another forum

 

[Charles_Main]

President Barack Obama has engaged other countries to sue the united states. He wants U.S. laws to be subordinate to international courts.*

He should be tried for treason.*

This guy is a traitor. He not only needs to be booted he needs to be prosecuted.*

Arizona is literally under attack by Mexican drug cartels and Obama is siding with Mexico over his own country.

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer slams 'foreign interference' in immigration lawsuit - Scott Wong - POLITICO.com

"In a new twist in the fight over Arizona’s immigration law, Republican Gov. Jan Brewer on Tuesday asked a federal court to disallow foreign governments from joining the U.S. Department of Justice lawsuit to overturn the law.*

The move comes in response to a 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling issued Monday, allowing nearly a dozen Latin American countries — Mexico, Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Costa Rica, Ecuador, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Paraguay, Peru and Chile — to submit friend-of-the-court briefs in Justice’s challenge to SB 1070, which Brewer signed into law in April and is considered one of the nation’s toughest immigration-enforcement measures. "*

Many times, when people write this kind of trash, it's really a reflection of what is going on in their personal lives. If anyone should be tried for treason, it's Bush.

DOH you lost me.

 

[Intense]

Feel free to come up with a plan to pack up and ship some 13 million "illegals" who are such for reasons that vary from fleeing for their lives or not quite understanding the law.

Some of them have fought in our various wars..and bravely.

So again..feel free.

One at a time or a busload/planeload/boatload.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

How about all those which are running from the law in their own countries?

And last time I checked illegals could not get into the US military.

After all is said and done those who have a valid reason to fear for their lives if returned to their homeland, can tell it to the judge.

Check again.

Among Marines, no case has been more controversial than that of Sgt. Rafael Peralta, who was nominated by the Marine commandant for the Medal of Honor for smothering a grenade in Fallujah, Iraq, saving the lives of several comrades. Marines who witnessed Peralta's actions insisted that although he was gravely wounded, he made his heroic gesture willingly. But some forensic experts disagreed, contending that he was already brain-dead and his act mere involuntary muscle movement.

Some veterans raised the possibility that Peralta's one-time status as an illegal immigrant played a part in the decision, according to the Army Times study.
Fewer get the Medal of Honor | GazetteNET

One Time status would indicate corrective action was taken. He was not an Illegal serving in the Military. Poor example.

 

[Intense]

Then why do 90% of blacks not vote republican?

Good question? Social programing? Communism infiltrating the Civil Rights Movement? Self Reliance being taught as a bad concept? Institutional Dependency? Whatever the reason, it is unnatural and shameful. We forgive you though. Remember to start every day with Conscience first.

 

[fyauthor]

Why so many people whine about freedom for themselves while denying others their freedom! Why is the wealthy the most whiners in the world, for although working folks lost wealth their security, as the wealthy made crazy money, and still they whine about taxes that most wish they had that problem! However, working folks are so stupid to think that the problems of the wealthy is their problem, for they do not realize that conservative means to conserve and preserve the power of the wealthy, not ordinary folks talking about taking back the America they never had!

PEACE & LOVE

 

[fyauthor]

President Barack Obama has engaged other countries to sue the united states. He wants U.S. laws to be subordinate to international courts.*

He should be tried for treason.*

This guy is a traitor. He not only needs to be booted he needs to be prosecuted.*

Arizona is literally under attack by Mexican drug cartels and Obama is siding with Mexico over his own country.

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer slams 'foreign interference' in immigration lawsuit - Scott Wong - POLITICO.com

"In a new twist in the fight over Arizona’s immigration law, Republican Gov. Jan Brewer on Tuesday asked a federal court to disallow foreign governments from joining the U.S. Department of Justice lawsuit to overturn the law.*

The move comes in response to a 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling issued Monday, allowing nearly a dozen Latin American countries — Mexico, Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Costa Rica, Ecuador, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Paraguay, Peru and Chile — to submit friend-of-the-court briefs in Justice’s challenge to SB 1070, which Brewer signed into law in April and is considered one of the nation’s toughest immigration-enforcement measures. "*

International treaties that are ratified by Congress are US law.

As much as I so disagree with many of them, failure to apply those laws would be a violation of the constitution.

Bush II was not a traitor when he lived up to the terms of those treaties and neither is Obama.

I thought the states were in charge of their state; you know, states rights that conservatives are forever hawking, but I guess they only want state rights if they do not have to pay for it, as they simply want exploit and suppress minority rights for cheap labor that undermines all workers.

 

[Sallow]

One at a time or a busload/planeload/boatload.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

How about all those which are running from the law in their own countries?

And last time I checked illegals could not get into the US military.

After all is said and done those who have a valid reason to fear for their lives if returned to their homeland, can tell it to the judge.

Check again.

Among Marines, no case has been more controversial than that of Sgt. Rafael Peralta, who was nominated by the Marine commandant for the Medal of Honor for smothering a grenade in Fallujah, Iraq, saving the lives of several comrades. Marines who witnessed Peralta's actions insisted that although he was gravely wounded, he made his heroic gesture willingly. But some forensic experts disagreed, contending that he was already brain-dead and his act mere involuntary muscle movement.

Some veterans raised the possibility that Peralta's one-time status as an illegal immigrant played a part in the decision, according to the Army Times study.
Fewer get the Medal of Honor | GazetteNET

One Time status would indicate corrective action was taken. He was not an Illegal serving in the Military. Poor example.

Oh really now.

The "corrective" action kept him in the country. And he served it with honor and bravery. He was once illegal..and then joined the military. Of course it's a valid example.

 

[Intense]

Why so many people whine about freedom for themselves while denying others their freedom! Why is the wealthy the most whiners in the world, for although working folks lost wealth their security, as the wealthy made crazy money, and still they whine about taxes that most wish they had that problem! However, working folks are so stupid to think that the problems of the wealthy is their problem, for they do not realize that conservative means to conserve and preserve the power of the wealthy, not ordinary folks talking about taking back the America they never had!

PEACE & LOVE

That is not my perspective of conservationism at all, not even close.

 

[Intense]

President Barack Obama has engaged other countries to sue the united states. He wants U.S. laws to be subordinate to international courts.*

He should be tried for treason.*

This guy is a traitor. He not only needs to be booted he needs to be prosecuted.*

Arizona is literally under attack by Mexican drug cartels and Obama is siding with Mexico over his own country.

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer slams 'foreign interference' in immigration lawsuit - Scott Wong - POLITICO.com

"In a new twist in the fight over Arizona’s immigration law, Republican Gov. Jan Brewer on Tuesday asked a federal court to disallow foreign governments from joining the U.S. Department of Justice lawsuit to overturn the law.*

The move comes in response to a 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling issued Monday, allowing nearly a dozen Latin American countries — Mexico, Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Costa Rica, Ecuador, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Paraguay, Peru and Chile — to submit friend-of-the-court briefs in Justice’s challenge to SB 1070, which Brewer signed into law in April and is considered one of the nation’s toughest immigration-enforcement measures. "*

International treaties that are ratified by Congress are US law.

As much as I so disagree with many of them, failure to apply those laws would be a violation of the constitution.

Bush II was not a traitor when he lived up to the terms of those treaties and neither is Obama.

I thought the states were in charge of their state; you know, states rights that conservatives are forever hawking, but I guess they only want state rights if they do not have to pay for it, as they simply want exploit and suppress minority rights for cheap labor that undermines all workers.

As much as it hurts to say this, I agree with editic.

 

[Sallow]

This..essentially works as a baseline for me..

conservatism

n.
1.The inclination, especially in politics, to maintain the existing or traditional order.
2.A political philosophy or attitude emphasizing respect for traditional institutions, distrust of government activism, and opposition to sudden change in the established order.
3.Conservatism The principles and policies of the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom or of the Progressive Conservative Party in Canada.
4.Caution or moderation, as in behavior or outlook.
http://www.answers.com/topic/conservatism

However..there are extremes.

 

[Intense]

Check again.

One Time status would indicate corrective action was taken. He was not an Illegal serving in the Military. Poor example.

Oh really now.

The "corrective" action kept him in the country. And he served it with honor and bravery. He was once illegal..and then joined the military. Of course it's a valid example.

He corrected a wrong and then joined the Military. He was not an Illegal serving in the Military. So what other laws besides Immigration law is it okay to ignore because of Government incompetence? What other group do you want to attempt to justify?

 

[Sallow]

One Time status would indicate corrective action was taken. He was not an Illegal serving in the Military. Poor example.

Oh really now.

The "corrective" action kept him in the country. And he served it with honor and bravery. He was once illegal..and then joined the military. Of course it's a valid example.

He corrected a wrong and then joined the Military. He was not an Illegal serving in the Military. So what other laws besides Immigration law is it okay to ignore because of Government incompetence? What other group do you want to attempt to justify?

Drug laws are frequently ignored. So were sodomy laws. There use to be Jim Crow laws in the south..that were not only ignored..but actively fought against.

Do you want a link? Like the one you so graciously gave me about history?

 

[Intense]

You all do realize that if an Illegal can come here and survive 10 years without getting grabbed, they can apply for Citizenship, right? Do you think it's too long a period? Do you want to shorten it now? If any of us get charged with Social Security Fraud can we get it thrown out of court under an unequal treatment argument? The cop's in my Precinct used to just wave them through the random check points knowing that there would be no License, Registration, or Insurance, and way too much time and paper work if they didn't. How does that effect the quality of life?

 

[Intense]

Oh really now.

The "corrective" action kept him in the country. And he served it with honor and bravery. He was once illegal..and then joined the military. Of course it's a valid example.

He corrected a wrong and then joined the Military. He was not an Illegal serving in the Military. So what other laws besides Immigration law is it okay to ignore because of Government incompetence? What other group do you want to attempt to justify?

Drug laws are frequently ignored. So were sodomy laws. There use to be Jim Crow laws in the south..that were not only ignored..but actively fought against.

Do you want a link? Like the one you so graciously gave me about history?

A fair society is about correcting wrongs, not compounding them. Any credible links you want to share are welcome. Don't hesitate.

 

[Sallow]

Hard as it is to believe..there are countries out there that slaughter their citizens like cattle..

Guatemala is such a place. Women are dying there in droves.

 

[Intense]

Hard as it is to believe..there are countries out there that slaughter their citizens like cattle..

Guatemala is such a place. Women are dying there in droves.

Yeah, Political Refugee Status is a good thing. Pretty soon when Mexico trips over itself again, Mexican Aliens will be able to claim Political Refugee status too. Then a good part of this shit storm will be wiped clean.

 

[fyauthor]

This..essentially works as a baseline for me..

conservatism

n.
1.The inclination, especially in politics, to maintain the existing or traditional order.
2.A political philosophy or attitude emphasizing respect for traditional institutions, distrust of government activism, and opposition to sudden change in the established order.
3.Conservatism The principles and policies of the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom or of the Progressive Conservative Party in Canada.
4.Caution or moderation, as in behavior or outlook.
conservatism: Definition from Answers.com

Let's talk about Conservatives before the Magna Charter! They treated common citizen like do-do, for they had them by the sword and wouldn't let go. When they wrote the Magna Charter, they thought that was a really liberal document, while in reality it isn't a good as The U.S. Constitution during slavery, as folks starved to death and finally came to America in droves. The truth is the wealthy made out like a bandit as everyday folks lost their homes, cars, savings, IRAs, retirement money, and self-respect! Still, they want to kiss the wealthy butts so they won't lose their jobs, which only will make things worse for now they know− they gotcha, as they do not care about you, all they want is mo-money! If you do not believe me then check your candidates' background for your sake!

PEACE & LOVE!

 

[fyauthor]

This..essentially works as a baseline for me..

conservatism

n.
1.The inclination, especially in politics, to maintain the existing or traditional order.
2.A political philosophy or attitude emphasizing respect for traditional institutions, distrust of government activism, and opposition to sudden change in the established order.
3.Conservatism The principles and policies of the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom or of the Progressive Conservative Party in Canada.
4.Caution or moderation, as in behavior or outlook.
conservatism: Definition from Answers.com

Let's talk about Conservatives before the Magna Charter! They treated common citizen like do-do, for they had them by the sword and wouldn't let go. When they wrote the Magna Charter, they thought that was a really liberal document, while in reality it isn't a good as The U.S. Constitution during slavery, as folks starved to death and finally came to America in droves. The truth is the wealthy made out like a bandit as everyday folks lost their homes, cars, savings, IRAs, retirement money, and self-respect! Still, they want to kiss the wealthy butts so they won't lose their jobs, which only will make things worse for now they know− they gotcha, as they do not care about you, all they want is mo-money! If you do not believe me then check your candidates' background for your sake!

PEACE & LOVE!

 

[fyauthor]

One of the security Rand Paul guards actually ran his hand over the woman’s breast as the other thug stomped her head.

People keep saying that Government is broken, and they are right, it was broken by Republicans holding-up programs that would have helped working people to help the economy simply by buying food and paying rent, but what the hell, we are not our brother’s keeping! (A quote from a conservative Republican)

PEACE & LOVE

 

[SFC Ollie]

One of the security Rand Paul guards actually ran his hand over the woman’s breast as the other thug stomped her head.

People keep saying that Government is broken, and they are right, it was broken by Republicans holding-up programs that would have helped working people to help the economy simply by buying food and paying rent, but what the hell, we are not our brother’s keeping! (A quote from a conservative Republican)

PEACE & LOVE