Obama was kept informed of the conversations by wire tap. No spin. No more BS libs

[mudwhistle]

Unbelievable that there are still trump cultist who refuse to admit he is the biggest liar in American Presidential history. From seeing thousands of American Muslims dancing in the streets of NJ on 9/11 to having the largest watched and attended Presidential inauguration in decades, the guy has been caught lying over and over and they still wear blinders and happily kiss his ass.

Considering the fact that a Democrap like yourself says that, after trusting Hillary and Obama....it's quite ironic.
Frankly I find it hilarious.

 

[mudwhistle]

In this article the New York Times not only discusses the wire taps but points out that the White House was given the information.

Whoooooooooooooooooo hoooooooo! Thank you NYT's. There's something I thought I would never say.

" The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit

The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said.

One official said intelligence reports based on some of the WIRE TAPPED COMMUNICATIONS had been provided to the White House."

Right there in the last line wiretaps and White House. Obama knew what was going on.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html?_r=0

That does not state that the orange clown was wire tapped. That the Russians tried to influence the election is a fact. All the intel agencies state it, and the intel agencies of the European nations state that they are taking preventive measures to prevent Russia from doing likewise to them.

Perhaps the orange clown had better present some real evidence, other than an idiotic Breibart article.

The demand for Trump to submit real evidence is a clear indication of how little trust the public has in this man. Trump's tweets have been so filled with inaccuracies, misrepresentations, and outright lies, people just don't believe what he says.

Trump seems to expect that people will accept whatever he tweets without proof, even-thou his tweets have been far from accurate.

Not really, considering the demands are coming from a corrupt media and a bunch of lying Congress critters.

 

[francoHFW]

Since there is ZERO evidence of an illegal wiretapping, you need to give it a rest.

So you admit there was "legal" wiretapping going on. All Trump said was he was being tapped by Obama during the election.

No that's not all Trump said, and no I did not 'admit' Trump was being legally wiretapped.

I seriously doubt he was being tapped legally. He was being tapped so they could find dirt on him. This is how they destroyed their enemies. The Obama Administration was notorious for finding dirt on anyone who got in their way. They didn't give a damn about laws. Laws are for the rest of us. Not them.

Like I said, ZERO evidence.

Plenty of evidence. You just refuse to admit it. We've been reading the evidence in the news for at least 8 years.

ONLY on Fox, Breitbart, Rush, fake news etc etc,- Never in the courts or reputable news media, superdupe.

 

[Camp]

Unbelievable that there are still trump cultist who refuse to admit he is the biggest liar in American Presidential history. From seeing thousands of American Muslims dancing in the streets of NJ on 9/11 to having the largest watched and attended Presidential inauguration in decades, the guy has been caught lying over and over and they still wear blinders and happily kiss his ass.

Considering the fact that a Democrap like yourself says that, after trusting Hillary and Obama....it's quite ironic.
Frankly I find it hilarious.

People like you have to assume that those who recognize trump for the dishonest liar he is, automatically trusted Obama and or Clinton. That supports the standard and only trump defense. Others may have lied, so it is OK if trump lies. You can not refute the lies trump has been caught telling, so you deflect, attack the messenger and evade having to address the original subject, that being the lies told by trump.

 

[Flopper]

Unbelievable that there are still trump cultist who refuse to admit he is the biggest liar in American Presidential history. From seeing thousands of American Muslims dancing in the streets of NJ on 9/11 to having the largest watched and attended Presidential inauguration in decades, the guy has been caught lying over and over and they still wear blinders and happily kiss his ass.

Considering the fact that a Democrap like yourself says that, after trusting Hillary and Obama....it's quite ironic.
Frankly I find it hilarious.

People like you have to assume that those who recognize trump for the dishonest liar he is, automatically trusted Obama and or Clinton. That supports the standard and only trump defense. Others may have lied, so it is OK if trump lies. You can not refute the lies trump has been caught telling, so you deflect, attack the messenger and evade having to address the original subject, that being the lies told by trump.

Distrust by the party out of power is the norm. However, what is not normal is distrust, confusion, and infighting within the administration, particularly within the first 100 days. Trump's falsehoods and inaccurate statements have foreign leaders asking: Can we trust him? In Tokyo and Beijing to London and Berlin, foreign officials are watching the president’s false assertions with alarm, unsure of whether they can trust him and wondering whether that will undermine their dealings with Washington.

Trump needs to break his addiction to Twitter and leave communications to his Press Secretary and Director of Communications.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Correct libs, a president cannot order a wiretap. BUT a president can tell one of his cronies in the FBI or DOJ------------------ "I sure wish there was a tap on Trump's phone".

Don't be so fricken naïve. We all know that is exactly what happened.

No he can't.
There is no one who will commit a felony for a president. These are career men, not politicians.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

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He wasn't being tapped... how many fucking times do you have to be told this??? .

This tall tale is now permanently entered in the Big Book of Rightwing Mythology. Once there, it can never be removed.

Removing your head from its' safe space obviously isn't possible. In a few days you dance in victory yet will carry the Russians cost us the election torch until the day you die. You can't see how insane that is.

Except the Russian story has a basis in fact, and this one was made up by Breitbart. Campaign officials really did have contact with Russia and coordinated with them. If they did nothing wrong, why did Sessions and Flynn lie about it until they were forced to come clean by the media.

Trump is quickly becoming the Boy who cried "Wolf", with his lies and his fear mongering.






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[Hutch Starskey]

His supporters are all over these boards saying that he is right, offering proof, etc. I want him to just come out with the proof. If it has been in the NYT, this should be easy for him to do. Just show us the proof.

Each day that does by with no proof makes it less likely that any exists.
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As of last night, Spicer still confirmed that the WH had not reached out to Comey or anyone else to inquire about the validity of Trump's claim.

As if Comey can be trusted.
I think Comey has been given a long rope to hang himself. If he had any sense he's submit his resignation.

The FBI would have conducted the surveillance if it had been done. No one is in a better position to Know than Comey.
The fact that he has asked for the DOJ to refute Trump's claims is a pretty good tell of what their position is.

Besmirching his character doesn't address these facts at all.

I think you need to make up your mind. Are you gonna cop his joint or condemn him?
First you attacked him for opening an investigation into Hillary's server. Then you praised him when he decided not to press charges at the same instant he's laying out a case for espionage. Then you attacked him for reopening the case right before the election. If anyone besmirched his character it was you on the left.

That's right. Sidestep the point that makes you look foolish.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Welcome to reality. Trump claimed the biggest personal inaugural attendence in history. Yet the photos of the National Mall, and the bleachers along Pennsylvania avenue revealed the t ruth.

Psssssssst......

Yer kidden, right?

What the NY Times published, taken 17 hours before the inauguration;

What they buried, taken 11 hours before the inauguration.

Funny how that works, isn't it?

It's the same picture from the same time, dope.

One is zoomed in the other is not.

Look at the shape of the crowd in each grid. They're the same.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

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HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DO YOU FUCKS NEED TO BE TOLD? THE RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR HAD THE WIRE TAP NOT TRUMP. SERIOUSLY? ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?

Lewd, you reciting the scripts from the Soros hate sites might well be the extent of your abilities, however to we rational folk, you talking points are not convincing..

{Mukasey added that the FBI reportedly tried to get a wiretap based on their criminal investigation function in June of 2016 and were rejected. They later got an electronic surveillance order in October of 2016. Raddatz asked if this means that there were suspicious activity between the Trump administration and the Russians, which Mukasey said all it means is that the DOJ felt that someone at Trump Tower might have been acting as an agent to the Russian government for whatever reasons—not necessarily dealing with the election. He also reiterated that the FBI keeps track of anyone, Russian, Korean, Italian, Chinese etc., who act as agents of foreign governments.}

Former AG: Yes–The President Is Right To Think That Trump Tower Was Under Electronic Surveillance

Trump Tower was bugged. That is established fact.

Did Obama order it? Your Fuhrer and the hate sites that do your thinking for you will say no. Obama is unlikely to have DIRECTLY ordered that Trump Tower be bugged, but indirectly his orders to do anything they can to find a link between Trump and Russia led to the tap.

Some former AG's opinion is not fact. You do understand the difference between opinion and fact right?

That the DOJ obtained a FISA warrant is established fact. Sadly, your Fuhrer does not allow you to acknowledge facts. Later today or tomorrow the hate sites will admit the irrefutable and provided you with spin to recite. Until then you will deny water is wet. Once given your new ordered you will deny that you ever denied the tap. You will recited the new spin and declare "we have always been at war with EastAsia."

That the DOJ obtained a FISA warrant is established fact.

Not in any way.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

 

[easyt65]

Is that what Trump said on a recording Clapper gave to Obama?

Doesn't matter - Obama / Clapper said it never happened...which the NYT reported they did.

Bullshit.
We've known that Russian communications were monitored and there were transcripts since the hacking story broke last year, ya ignorant wretch.

...and that's my point - Obama and Clapper LIED! (Previous post was SARCASM)

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Is that what Trump said on a recording Clapper gave to Obama?

Doesn't matter - Obama / Clapper said it never happened...which the NYT reported they did.

Bullshit.
We've known that Russian communications were monitored and there were transcripts since the hacking story broke last year, ya ignorant wretch.

...and that's my point - Obama and Clapper LIED! (Previous post was SARCASM)

Lied about what ,dumbass?

 

[easyt65]

Is that what Trump said on a recording Clapper gave to Obama?

Doesn't matter - Obama / Clapper said it never happened...which the NYT reported they did.

Bullshit.
We've known that Russian communications were monitored and there were transcripts since the hacking story broke last year, ya ignorant wretch.

...and that's my point - Obama and Clapper LIED! (Previous post was SARCASM)

Lied about what ,dumbass?

Clapper, who was proven to have lied under oath about millions of Americans being illegally spied upon, just recently declared that no spying on Trump occurred, which is a lie.

 

[Redfish]

give it time, the truth will be known. the tarmac meeting between Bubba Clinton and Lynch may be where this started.

Why don't you just throw shit against the wall and see what sticks?

that's what the dems and libs do. We deal in facts.

 

[Redfish]

So releasing the details of corruption within the DNC, the Clinton campaign, and the media was aimed at "doing us harm"? Can you explain?

Any foreign influence of an american election is doing our system of government harm.

OK, how exactly did that information (which happened to be true) negatively affect our election? Were the dems and Hillary impacted by the release about their corruption and lies? If yes, aren't we as citizens entitled to know about such corruption and lies? Aren't we entitled to know when the media is lying to us?

I guess what you libs are saying is that the truth cost Hillary the election. Isn't that they way it should be?

 

[Redfish]

Trump and his team talked to the Russians who were being monitored and their conversations were recorded. There is no one to blame for that other than Trump and his team. If you don't play in the mud you won't get dirty.

You would think somebody on Trumps staff would know about national intelligence. Especially how in a post 9-11 world, they're gatheriing any and all evidence of foreigners plotting to do us hatm.

So releasing the details of corruption within the DNC, the Clinton campaign, and the media was aimed at "doing us harm"? Can you explain?

So you take the position that if Trump was illegally wire tapped, it would be okay because it might reveal details of corruption by Trump?

There is a huge difference between a candidate being illegally spied on by the government and a political party being hacked by an outside source.

If obozo and Clintoon had any proof of corruption by Trump, it would have been screamed from every corner by every news outlet in the country.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Trump and his team talked to the Russians who were being monitored and their conversations were recorded. There is no one to blame for that other than Trump and his team. If you don't play in the mud you won't get dirty.

You would think somebody on Trumps staff would know about national intelligence. Especially how in a post 9-11 world, they're gatheriing any and all evidence of foreigners plotting to do us hatm.

So releasing the details of corruption within the DNC, the Clinton campaign, and the media was aimed at "doing us harm"? Can you explain?

So you take the position that if Trump was illegally wire tapped, it would be okay because it might reveal details of corruption by Trump?

There is a huge difference between a candidate being illegally spied on by the government and a political party being hacked by an outside source.

If obozo and Clintoon had any proof of corruption by Trump, it would have been screamed from every corner by every news outlet in the country.

Go ahead,

post a Trump phone conversation illegally tapped by Obama.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Trump and his team talked to the Russians who were being monitored and their conversations were recorded. There is no one to blame for that other than Trump and his team. If you don't play in the mud you won't get dirty.

You would think somebody on Trumps staff would know about national intelligence. Especially how in a post 9-11 world, they're gatheriing any and all evidence of foreigners plotting to do us hatm.

So releasing the details of corruption within the DNC, the Clinton campaign, and the media was aimed at "doing us harm"? Can you explain?

So you take the position that if Trump was illegally wire tapped, it would be okay because it might reveal details of corruption by Trump?

There is a huge difference between a candidate being illegally spied on by the government and a political party being hacked by an outside source.

.

What? Like there's a huge difference between a Walmart worker murdering his wife and a postal worker murdering his wife?

WTF, that is goddammed insane.

 

[francoHFW]

give it time, the truth will be known. the tarmac meeting between Bubba Clinton and Lynch may be where this started.

Why don't you just throw shit against the wall and see what sticks?

that's what the dems and libs do. We deal in facts.

Alternate facts lol...Forget about all the reputable news outlets, go with HS grad pundits and fake news...