Intercepted Russian Communications Part of Inquiry Into Trump Associates

[Synthaholic]

We interrupt the previously scheduled liberal circle jerk with breaking news (at least to liberals).

No one believes your bullshit but you.

Now back to your regularly scheduled circle jerk.

No deplorables and Commie-lovers believe it. But the nation's Federal law enforcement does. And that's what matters. Because they will compile the evidence, present it to U.S. Attorneys, who will prosecute if Congress doesn't impeach.

So sorry that you hate America.

52% View Trump Favorably - Rasmussen Reports™

Rasmussen is a right-wing polling group with a history of having numbers wildly different from the other major polling groups.

He's at 32% approval.

So, they're fake? Cuz they have Obama at 62%.

(Yep, saw that coming...)

That's also not correct.

(you didn't see that coming)

 

[Care4all]

The Ukraine has already admitted it was working to put Mrs Clinton into the Presidency and had initiated a smear campaign against Manafort. On record now.

Your attempt to deflect is pathetic.

Hillary lost. If Trump was in cahoots with the Commies, he'll be impeached.

There's no deflection here. There were multiple foreign nations that were funding the Clinton Foundation in the hopes that she would be elected President and she could continue the pay to play game that she ran as SoS but this time from the Oval Office.

If you think you are going to try to impeach Trump and not have Clinton be on the hot seat as well for colluding with foreign governments in the process of conducting a Presidential campaign, with all due respect you are fucking nuts.

From Politico not Russia Today.

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.

By Kenneth P. Vogel and David Stern
01/11/17 05:05 AM EST

here's what kenneth p vogel said in the article, that puts it in to perspective tiny...

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.

Russia’s effort was personally directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, involved the country’s military and foreign intelligence services, according to U.S. intelligence officials. They reportedly briefed Trump last week on the possibility that Russian operatives might have compromising information on the president-elect. And at a Senate hearing last week on the hacking, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said “I don't think we've ever encountered a more aggressive or direct campaign to interfere in our election process than we've seen in this case.”

There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine. Longtime observers suggest that the rampant corruption, factionalism and economic struggles plaguing the country — not to mention its ongoing strife with Russia — would render it unable to pull off an ambitious covert interference campaign in another country’s election. And President Petro Poroshenko’s administration, along with the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, insists that Ukraine stayed neutral in the race.

 

[Care4all]

-The first notes in the ex MI6's investigation notes/dossier dated June or before of last year, states that Trump campaign/operatives were coordinating and exchanging information with the Russians at those two diplomatic residences, which Obama shut down and sent the Russian diplomats packing back to Russia....

-the ex MI6 guy also said after some time in to the investigation gathering period, he realized he had to turn over what he knew to the FBI because what he was finding was pretty serious if true and the FBI and their man power could delve in better, to check it all out.

-The ex MI6 guy said he DID NOT tell his clients he turned his investigation info over to the FBI. This is why when the clients got all the info from him, they were concerned as well with what they were reading and somehow, they passed it on to McCain, so McCain would give it to the FBI....but unknown to the clients that hired the gumshoe, and unknown to McCain, the FBI had all of that information and the dossier, for 6 months already, cuz the MI6 guy gave it to them.

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So, we do know that the FBI does not always leak the truth....at least us on the left wing, KNOW that right wing media was filled with leaks on the Hillary investigation that turned out NOT to be true or even close to true...

I suppose we should consider, this could be the case with Trump, and these leaks are not really from the FBI themselves... could they be from staffers who know congress critters and passed along second hand kind of B.S.?

But since we know the dossier was turned over many months ago to the FBI, and if the FBI did start investigating what the MI6 dude collected as intel, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE that the FBI started eves dropping on the diplomats mentioned, having the connection to Trump team/advisors....

AND this being reported now, with the leak on the connection between Trump operatives and the Russians through phone intercepts, fits right in...

 

[tinydancer]

The Ukraine has already admitted it was working to put Mrs Clinton into the Presidency and had initiated a smear campaign against Manafort. On record now.

Your attempt to deflect is pathetic.

Hillary lost. If Trump was in cahoots with the Commies, he'll be impeached.

There's no deflection here. There were multiple foreign nations that were funding the Clinton Foundation in the hopes that she would be elected President and she could continue the pay to play game that she ran as SoS but this time from the Oval Office.

If you think you are going to try to impeach Trump and not have Clinton be on the hot seat as well for colluding with foreign governments in the process of conducting a Presidential campaign, with all due respect you are fucking nuts.

From Politico not Russia Today.

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.

By Kenneth P. Vogel and David Stern
01/11/17 05:05 AM EST

here's what kenneth p vogel said in the article, that puts it in to perspective tiny...

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.

Russia’s effort was personally directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, involved the country’s military and foreign intelligence services, according to U.S. intelligence officials. They reportedly briefed Trump last week on the possibility that Russian operatives might have compromising information on the president-elect. And at a Senate hearing last week on the hacking, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said “I don't think we've ever encountered a more aggressive or direct campaign to interfere in our election process than we've seen in this case.”

There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine. Longtime observers suggest that the rampant corruption, factionalism and economic struggles plaguing the country — not to mention its ongoing strife with Russia — would render it unable to pull off an ambitious covert interference campaign in another country’s election. And President Petro Poroshenko’s administration, along with the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, insists that Ukraine stayed neutral in the race.

Until I see the evidence of Putin directly ordering the hacking of voting machines, I'm not buying into this fairy tale that Russia won the election for Trump.

It's bullshit. And for the US to claim that OMG another country has tried to influence an election in America, what freaking hypocrisy.

Let's see. The US, the west and the EU have just spent years trying to depose Assad, turned over Libya to terrorists, made the Egyptians suffer under the Muslim Brotherhood, poor Yemen we can throw them in as well, and back the overthrow of the duly elected President of the Ukraine and his party, back Netanyahu's opposition, and have Messina Obama's man over in Britain to get Cameron re-elected AND run the anti Brexit campaign for Cameron.

And that's just under Obama.

Hello? No country on this bloody planet interferes more in any other country's affairs than the US. Including overthrowing officials or getting them whacked.

Bottom line is Russia didn't "hack the election". There is no evidence of that.

 

[tinydancer]

-The first notes in the ex MI6's investigation notes/dossier dated June or before of last year, states that Trump campaign/operatives were coordinating and exchanging information with the Russians at those two diplomatic residences, which Obama shut down and sent the Russian diplomats packing back to Russia....

-the ex MI6 guy also said after some time in to the investigation gathering period, he realized he had to turn over what he knew to the FBI because what he was finding was pretty serious if true and the FBI and their man power could delve in better, to check it all out.

-The ex MI6 guy said he DID NOT tell his clients he turned his investigation info over to the FBI. This is why when the clients got all the info from him, they were concerned as well with what they were reading and somehow, they passed it on to McCain, so McCain would give it to the FBI....but unknown to the clients that hired the gumshoe, and unknown to McCain, the FBI had all of that information and the dossier, for 6 months already, cuz the MI6 guy gave it to them.

------------------------------------

So, we do know that the FBI does not always leak the truth....at least us on the left wing, KNOW that right wing media was filled with leaks on the Hillary investigation that turned out NOT to be true or even close to true...

I suppose we should consider, this could be the case with Trump, and these leaks are not really from the FBI themselves... could they be from staffers who know congress critters and passed along second hand kind of B.S.?

But since we know the dossier was turned over many months ago to the FBI, and if the FBI did start investigating what the MI6 dude collected as intel, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE that the FBI started eves dropping on the diplomats mentioned, having the connection to Trump team/advisors....

AND this being reported now, with the leak on the connection between Trump operatives and the Russians through phone intercepts, fits right in...

Manafort was destroyed by the bullshit the Ukrainians put out on him. He left his position with Trump. The other two can be associates of Trump if they want, but how on earth does that make either Stone or Page part of the Trump team?

And this dossier is a joke. Hang on to it all you want but you might as well start a liberal version of Infowars.

Don't you remember that the first M16 report that was utterly destroyed was the claim by the ex agent that Michael Cohen was secretly meeting with Russian officials?

That dossier is bullshit.

 

[12icer]

THE Liberal ideas floating around are just A figment of an infantile imagination, As for any damn impeachment, FORGET IT. You are just going to have to commit suicide. Trump is here for eight maybe even twenty years if he lives, The Republicans are here for 50 or 60 years unless you want to try to remove them by force, WE hope.

 

[Dragonlady]

Until I see the evidence of Putin directly ordering the hacking of voting machines, I'm not buying into this fairy tale that Russia won the election for Trump.

It's bullshit. And for the US to claim that OMG another country has tried to influence an election in America, what freaking hypocrisy.

Let's see. The US, the west and the EU have just spent years trying to depose Assad, turned over Libya to terrorists, made the Egyptians suffer under the Muslim Brotherhood, poor Yemen we can throw them in as well, and back the overthrow of the duly elected President of the Ukraine and his party, back Netanyahu's opposition, and have Messina Obama's man over in Britain to get Cameron re-elected AND run the anti Brexit campaign for Cameron.

And that's just under Obama.

Hello? No country on this bloody planet interferes more in any other country's affairs than the US. Including overthrowing officials or getting them whacked.

Bottom line is Russia didn't "hack the election". There is no evidence of that.

Yes they did. That is exactly what they did. After Trump lied to Republicans for years that Obama was a "Manchurian Candidate", look who turns out to be the Russian stooge. The guy who claimed that the election was rigged was telling the truth, because he was rigging it.

Trump has a history of accusing others of doing what he is in fact doing, to deflect attention away from the sleight of hand. Re-direction is old con-man's trick. "Crooked Hillary" isn't the one who paid a $25 million dollar settlement in a fraud trial, or who was under order to stop illegal fundraising for their family foundation.

Putin never touched the voting machines. Instead he fed you a steady stream of lies about Hillary Clinton until people were so poisoned against her - from the phony stories about her health, Putin saying the Clinton wanted war with Russia, calling all Russians home, constant leaks of emails, but nothing about the war conducted against Trump by the Republican Party, or their lack of support for him on the campaign trail. Boy, I'll bet those emails were hot stuff! But Assange and Putin didn't release any of those.

Nothing would give Assange and Putin more joy than to fuck over the United States. Clinton once suggested it wouldn't be a bad thing if Assange were killed. Putin is a little man who hated having to look up to Obama. They're laughing that Americans elected this incompetent to destroy their country.

 

[12icer]

Until I see the evidence of Putin directly ordering the hacking of voting machines, I'm not buying into this fairy tale that Russia won the election for Trump.

It's bullshit. And for the US to claim that OMG another country has tried to influence an election in America, what freaking hypocrisy.

Let's see. The US, the west and the EU have just spent years trying to depose Assad, turned over Libya to terrorists, made the Egyptians suffer under the Muslim Brotherhood, poor Yemen we can throw them in as well, and back the overthrow of the duly elected President of the Ukraine and his party, back Netanyahu's opposition, and have Messina Obama's man over in Britain to get Cameron re-elected AND run the anti Brexit campaign for Cameron.

And that's just under Obama.

Hello? No country on this bloody planet interferes more in any other country's affairs than the US. Including overthrowing officials or getting them whacked.

Bottom line is Russia didn't "hack the election". There is no evidence of that.

Yes they did. That is exactly what they did. After Trump lied to Republicans for years that Obama was a "Manchurian Candidate", look who turns out to be the Russian stooge. The guy who claimed that the election was rigged was telling the truth, because he was rigging it.

Trump has a history of accusing others of doing what he is in fact doing, to deflect attention away from the sleight of hand. Re-direction is old con-man's trick. "Crooked Hillary" isn't the one who paid a $25 million dollar settlement in a fraud trial, or who was under order to stop illegal fundraising for their family foundation.

Putin never touched the voting machines. Instead he fed you a steady stream of lies about Hillary Clinton until people were so poisoned against her - from the phony stories about her health, Putin saying the Clinton wanted war with Russia, calling all Russians home, constant leaks of emails, but nothing about the war conducted against Trump by the Republican Party, or their lack of support for him on the campaign trail. Boy, I'll bet those emails were hot stuff! But Assange and Putin didn't release any of those.

Nothing would give Assange and Putin more joy than to fuck over the United States. Clinton once suggested it wouldn't be a bad thing if Assange were killed. Putin is a little man who hated having to look up to Obama. They're laughing that Americans elected this incompetent to destroy their country.

Pure bullshit, more fantasy with NO proof or evidence but some wild reaching for a turd to throw.


For the OPOSTER as I read the OP, I just wonder how you come to the statement on the ARTICLE one violation, Is he being sworn in to congress?

 

[JQPublic1]

From what Rachel Maddow reported tonight - the entire intelligence community is actively investigating Trump.

Washington Redskin stay out of the fire water
Rachel Mad cow needs to get ratings I guess, but only dip shits watch her show

Don't attack the messenger, Maddow is very credible/

 

[Rustic]

From what Rachel Maddow reported tonight - the entire intelligence community is actively investigating Trump.

Washington Redskin stay out of the fire water
Rachel Mad cow needs to get ratings I guess, but only dip shits watch her show

Don't attack the messenger, Maddow is very credible/

She is a POS... and should be pistol whipped

 

[12icer]

I ask because I find nothing in article ONE to pertain to the presidency.

Here>>>>

Article I - The Legislative Branch

Section 1 - The Legislature

All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Section 2 - The House

The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.

No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.
apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.) (The previous sentence in parentheses was modified by the 14th Amendment, section 2.) The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five and Georgia three.

When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies.

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

17th Amendment, section 1.) for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.

Immediately after they shall be assembled in Consequence of the first Election, they shall be divided as equally as may be into three Classes. The Seats of the Senators of the first Class shall be vacated at the Expiration of the second Year, of the second Class at the Expiration of the fourth Year, and of the third Class at the Expiration of the sixth Year, so that one third may be chosen every second Year; (and if Vacancies happen by Resignation, or otherwise, during the Recess of the Legislature of any State, the Executive thereof may make temporary Appointments until the next Meeting of the Legislature, which shall then fill such Vacancies.) (The preceding words in parentheses were superseded by the 17th Amendment, section 2.)

No person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.

The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.

The Senate shall chuse their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of President of the United States.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

Chusing Senators.

The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall (be on the first Monday in December,) (The preceding words in parentheses were superseded by the 20th Amendment, section 2.) unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day.

Adjournment

Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.

Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two-thirds, expel a Member.

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Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other Place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.

27th Amendment.) They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office.

concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

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Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.

Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.) (Section in parentheses clarified by the 16th Amendment.)

No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.

No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.

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No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.

Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

 

[JQPublic1]

From what Rachel Maddow reported tonight - the entire intelligence community is actively investigating Trump.

Washington Redskin stay out of the fire water
Rachel Mad cow needs to get ratings I guess, but only dip shits watch her show

Don't attack the messenger, Maddow is very credible/

She is a POS... and should be pistol whipped

If you want a one dimensional government and a one dimensional life where every one agrees with each other go t hell, everyone there agrees it is hot!