Obama's Nobel Peace Prize Speech

[beowolfe]

Obama should not have been given the award. How do you give someone a Peace Prize who just announced he's sending 30K more troops to slaughter the women and children of Afghanistan? This guy is nothing moe than a black Bush.

You give him the award BEFORE he announces it. Are you that 'thick' when it comes to current events?

 

[beowolfe]

[SIZE=+1]Obama - Warming up to Torture?[/SIZE]
Link
Excerpt:
Obama has asked an appeals court to dismiss a lawsuit accusing Bush bastard John Yoo of authorizing torture, saying federal law does not allow damage claims against lawyers who advise the president on national security issues. Such lawsuits ask courts to second-guess presidential decisions and pose "the risk of deterring full and frank advice regarding the military's detention and treatment of those determined to be enemies during an armed conflict," Justice Department lawyers said Thursday in arguments to the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco. Other sanctions are available for government lawyers who commit misconduct, the department said. It noted that its Office of Professional Responsibility has been investigating Yoo's advice to former President George W. Bush since 2004 and has the power to recommend professional discipline or even criminal prosecution.


Wasn't it just one year ago that he was vehemently against torture?

So, you think that taking a position that protects advisors is the same as endorsing torture? I think that says more about you than it does about Obama's position on torture.

what do you think it says about me?

That your capacity for thinking is somewhat limited.

 

[beowolfe]

None.

Why, would you rather have seen a Chinese Female Midgit with One Eye that had no merits accept the award?

that was specific........but it might as well have been. I just can't help but wonder who else was on the short list for the award.

As an American, I prefer to have another American be awarded prizes.

As a Male, I prefer to have Males be awarded prizes

Having a height of 6 feet, I'd rather have taller people win prizes

Having two eyes, I'd rather have someone with two eyes win the prize.

Obama and I have only one thing that's different about us, and its minor.







I think my penis is larger.

 

[Jay Canuck]

So, you think that taking a position that protects advisors is the same as endorsing torture? I think that says more about you than it does about Obama's position on torture.

what do you think it says about me?

That your capacity for thinking is somewhat limited.

that may be true but I think your statement says something about you too - Protecting those who torture or are complicit in torture being carried out is okay when it's your guy doing the protecting.

 

[Jay Canuck]

"He clearly understood that he had been given the prize prematurely, but he used it as an occasion to remind people, first of all, as he said, that there is evil in the world. I think having a liberal president who goes to Oslo on behalf of a peace prize and reminds the committee that they would not be free, they wouldn't be able to have a peace prize, without having force…In some ways it's a very historic speech."

-- Newt Gingrich, not spewing like a rabid dog concerning Obama's Nobel speech, Link

 

[Vast LWC]

Showing a decent respect for the customs and protocols of people honoring you, no matter where they live (my mom called it having manners and showing a little class), is vastly different from telling people sticking their noses into your business and telling you how to live to buzz off.

Though I don't expect slavish devotees to the boyking to make such distinctions.

C'mon Dude, you know that if Obama said "the Sky is Blue" there would be an entire thread on this board devoted to how the sky is really a shade of light blue, with white clouds, and how Obama "should never have made a vast generalization like that".

Fox News would have Glenn Beck run an expose on how "Socialists and Communists see the sky as blue"...
"Does that make Obama a Socialist?", Glenn would say, "I don't know, I'm just asking questions here"...

 

[SFC Ollie]

Showing a decent respect for the customs and protocols of people honoring you, no matter where they live (my mom called it having manners and showing a little class), is vastly different from telling people sticking their noses into your business and telling you how to live to buzz off.

Though I don't expect slavish devotees to the boyking to make such distinctions.

C'mon Dude, you know that if Obama said "the Sky is Blue" there would be an entire thread on this board devoted to how the sky is really a shade of light blue, with white clouds, and how Obama "should never have made a vast generalization like that".

Fox News would have Glenn Beck run an expose on how "Socialists and Communists see the sky as blue"...
"Does that make Obama a Socialist?", Glenn would say, "I don't know, I'm just asking questions here"...

Wow, do you want to sniff his toilet seat too?

 

[Vast LWC]

Wow, do you want to sniff his toilet seat too?

Not really sure what this means...

 

[Samson]

[C'mon Dude, you know that if Obama said "the Sky is Blue" there would be an entire thread on this board devoted to how the sky is really a shade of light blue, with white clouds, and how Obama "should never have made a vast generalization like that".

Fox News would have Glenn Beck run an expose on how "Socialists and Communists see the sky as blue"...
"Does that make Obama a Socialist?", Glenn would say, "I don't know, I'm just asking questions here"...

This is one of the best analogies of How The Wingnuts Spin, Right and Left.

I'm tired of having my intelligence insulted: That's why I LISTENED to the speech. I can decide for myself what to think without some asshole talking head on Fox or MSNBC telling me.

 

[Oddball]

Showing a decent respect for the customs and protocols of people honoring you, no matter where they live (my mom called it having manners and showing a little class), is vastly different from telling people sticking their noses into your business and telling you how to live to buzz off.

Though I don't expect slavish devotees to the boyking to make such distinctions.

C'mon Dude, you know that if Obama said "the Sky is Blue" there would be an entire thread on this board devoted to how the sky is really a shade of light blue, with white clouds, and how Obama "should never have made a vast generalization like that".

Fox News would have Glenn Beck run an expose on how "Socialists and Communists see the sky as blue"...
"Does that make Obama a Socialist?", Glenn would say, "I don't know, I'm just asking questions here"...

I have equal contempt for republicans.

Fact remains that boyking made a limp and vapid speech that was as much about himself as anything else, then skipped town like the adolescent ingrate he is.

Maybe your momma didn't teach you what good manners are, but mine covered those bases with her kids.

 

[rightwinger]

Showing a decent respect for the customs and protocols of people honoring you, no matter where they live (my mom called it having manners and showing a little class), is vastly different from telling people sticking their noses into your business and telling you how to live to buzz off.

Though I don't expect slavish devotees to the boyking to make such distinctions.

C'mon Dude, you know that if Obama said "the Sky is Blue" there would be an entire thread on this board devoted to how the sky is really a shade of light blue, with white clouds, and how Obama "should never have made a vast generalization like that".

Fox News would have Glenn Beck run an expose on how "Socialists and Communists see the sky as blue"...
"Does that make Obama a Socialist?", Glenn would say, "I don't know, I'm just asking questions here"...

I have equal contempt for republicans.

Fact remains that boyking made a limp and vapid speech that was as much about himself as anything else, then skipped town like the adolescent ingrate he is.

Maybe your momma didn't teach you what good manners are, but mine covered those bases with her kids.

I congratulate your momma for raising such a fine son

 

[Samson]

Fact remains that boyking made a limp and vapid speech that was as much about himself as anything else, then skipped town like the adolescent ingrate he is.

Maybe your momma didn't teach you what good manners are, but mine covered those bases with her kids.

My mamma told me that Bearing False Witness was a SIN!!!! And that it would cause hair to grow on my palms.......



(ok, I made up the hair on the palms part)

YOU DIDN'T EVEN LISTEN TO THE SPEECH!!!!

 

[rightwinger]

Fact remains that boyking made a limp and vapid speech that was as much about himself as anything else, then skipped town like the adolescent ingrate he is.

Maybe your momma didn't teach you what good manners are, but mine covered those bases with her kids.

My mamma told me that Bearing False Witness was a SIN!!!! And that it would cause hair to grow on my palms.......



(ok, I made up the hair on the palms part)

YOU DIDN'T EVEN LISTEN TO THE SPEECH!!!!

Jerking off too much causes hair to grow on your palms

 

[Samson]

Fact remains that boyking made a limp and vapid speech that was as much about himself as anything else, then skipped town like the adolescent ingrate he is.

Maybe your momma didn't teach you what good manners are, but mine covered those bases with her kids.

My mamma told me that Bearing False Witness was a SIN!!!! And that it would cause hair to grow on my palms.......



(ok, I made up the hair on the palms part)

YOU DIDN'T EVEN LISTEN TO THE SPEECH!!!!

Jerking off too much causes hair to grow on your palms

Somehow, I never doubted you'd know that.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Can I do it until I need to shave?

 

[Vast LWC]

Can I do it until I need to shave?

Yeah, but that stubble sure would make things uncomfortable later on.

 

[Samson]

Can I do it until I need to shave?

Yeah, but that stubble sure would make things uncomfortable later on.

Damn, I never thought of that..........

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Timothy Furnish
A Nobel Prize...for Ignorance of Islam?

President’s Obama’s Nobel-acceptance speech yesterday was an impressive oration and a welcome departure from his usual habit of paying penance for every real or perceived sin in the history of American foreign policy.

But like the Liberty Bell with its disfiguring crack, or the Sphinx missing a nose, the overall excellence of the speech—by the first sitting U.S. President since Woodrow Wilson to win a Nobel prize—was fatally flawed by his ignorance, willful or not, of Islam.


Obama implicitly, but wisely, conceded to critics by opening his address acknowledging the thinness of the rationale for his receiving the Nobel peace prize—“compared to…Schweitzer and King; Marshall and Mandela, my accomplishments are slight”—and continued by standing up for the employment of American force:

“the United States of America has helped underwrite global security for more than six decades with the blood of our citizens and the strength of our arms.” Most directly confronting one of the Right’s major charges against him, the President finally managed to say “evil does exist in the world” and that “war is sometimes necessary.”

Obama made it clear that Afghanistan was just such a a war and implied just as clearly that Iraq was not. And his “three ways that we can build a just and lasting peace”—truly tough sanctions for regimes that ignore international strictures (read: Iran), a recommitment to human rights and “economic security”—seem to have come straight out of an international relations textbook rather than any really new Obaman thinking on the issue for which he was receiving the world’s highest award.

Toward the end of his speech the President lapsed into banalities that bordered on intentional misrepresentations. His line about “those who have distorted and defiled the great religion of Islam” has become boilerplate on the Left, invoked like a talisman every time Islam is mentioned. But it is nonetheless pure fantasy.

As I and other commentators (Ray Ibrahim, Robert Spencer, Andrew Bostom, among others) have pointed out numerous times, those who perpetrate violence in the name of Islam and Muhammad are in no wise “distorting” or “defiling” the world’s second-largest religion—they are, rather, simply taking literally the violence enshrined in the Qur’an and emulating the historical example of Muhammad himself.

Obama then followed with the second axiom of American liberals when discussing Islam—be sure to adduce the Crusades: “these [Islamic] extremists are not the first to kill in the name of God; the cruelties of the Crusades are amply recorded.” Why, yes they are, Mr. President. But there are thousands of years of human history preceding the Crusades, many also amply recorded, and wars in the name of God long pre-date what the medieval Catholic Christians did.

In fact, one only has to go back a few hundred years prior to the First Crusade of the 11th century to see that Muslim armies violentl y overran Christian lands in Egypt, Anatolia, North Africa and Spain—all in the name of Allah. But of course Muslims and Islam can never be held to account, according to our President’s worldview, for their invocation of Allah to kill, conquer and enslave. Those depredations must have been carried out by just a few "extremists," no doubt embittered by something one of George Bush's ancestors had done.


Obama’s final bit of pro-Muslim propaganda was a line he also employed in his Cairo address earlier this year, his ahistorical claim that “one rule that lies at the heart of every major religion is that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us.” This line is actually said by Jesus in Matthew 7:12: “In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets” (NASB).”

Christianity, obviously, teaches this; so too does rabbinical Judaism and, in a more negative form (“don’t do to others what you would not have them do to you&#8221, Buddhism. But Islam teaches no such doctrine! A loving attitude toward others is simply not one of the (alleged) revelations given by Allah to Muhammad in the Qur’an. And this is far more than merely some abstruse point of theology, akin to how many jinn can dance on the head of a pin.


This matters, for if our Commander-in-Chief and those who take their cue from him—miliary leaders, diplomats, intelligence analysts—get such a basic point of Islamic theology and history wrong, how on earth can we expect to win not just the military conflict but, more importantly, the ideological one against Islam? \

History News Network

http://www.usmessageboard.com/current-events/97478-obama-lies-islam-and-the-golden-rule.html

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

fact remains that boyking made a limp and vapid speech that was as much about himself as anything else, then skipped town like the adolescent ingrate he is.

Maybe your momma didn't teach you what good manners are, but mine covered those bases with her kids.

my mamma told me that bearing false witness was a sin!!!! and that it would cause hair to grow on my palms.......



(ok, i made up the hair on the palms part)

you didn't even listen to the speech!!!!

i watched it and read it.

 

[SFC Ollie]

fact remains that boyking made a limp and vapid speech that was as much about himself as anything else, then skipped town like the adolescent ingrate he is.

Maybe your momma didn't teach you what good manners are, but mine covered those bases with her kids.

my mamma told me that bearing false witness was a sin!!!! and that it would cause hair to grow on my palms.......



(ok, i made up the hair on the palms part)

you didn't even listen to the speech!!!!

i watched it and read it.

You did better than me, I turned it off after about 4 minutes. Made me sick.