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The democrats on here and elsewhere have no clue what is about to happen. They are being left completely in the dark. The reason for this clown show is the democrat leadership know what is coming and this is their attempt at distracting their base as long as possible.Tell me you didn't look at that video with Comey spellingvout over 200bfelonies HE REFUSED TO PROSECUTE...BTW, he now is under investigation, for among other things colluding with the Hildebeast on the phony dossier that she finded....Are you really this stupi . Or just hoping I wouldn6 answer you? Moron!Yes but we have EVIDENCE OF HER FELONIES....Liar. The right holds that record over Hillary at 26 years (and counting).
All YOU GOT is HE HURT MY FEELINGS, AND "PRESUMED" with nothing else!
What evidence do you have that Hillary committed felonies? Why haven't you revealed this evidence? Why haven't any of the more than 20 investigations ever produced any of this evidence?
Trump has ONE investigation, out of which come 5 credible charges of obstruction of justice, and a second impeachment investigation where he's already admitted to abuse of power.
I'm starting to wonder if all of this pissing around in the Ukraine is Trump's hissy fit because the Ukrainians revealed Manafort's corruption with the Black Ledger.
Pretty cut and dry
Oh, hell, yes, that's cut and dry, if you have your head up your ass.
What did they say? Does the President no longer know who he is?The white house threw Rudy right under the bus yesterday.
The criminal act was withholding the military aid in exchange for the announcement of an investigation.No, he just wanted Ukraine to say they were investigating Bidens. It didn't actually have to do it, just say it.Yea, he wanted Ukraine to investigate corruption. What’s the crime again?
And where is the criminal act in that?
Yes definitely. I've seen enough testimony to convince me that Trump should be impeached. He will have a chance to present his witnesses in the senate trial.I haven't watched the hearings today, but for a few minutes I had it on while waiting on someone.
One question comes to mind. In this case, could you honestly vote for impeachment of the Republican when the hearings did not allow Republican witnesses and the entire hearings were orchestrated by the Democrats?
The same questions come to mind if a Democrat was being charged with a crime targeting impeachment when the Democrats did not have the same rules as the Republicans?
So, as I hear this evening, maybe impeachment is appropriate, but the way the hearings were handled would make me either vote no or not be present.
What do you think? Try to be honest.
That's how this process works. What we are watching right now is not the trial. That happens after the impeachment.
However, the GOP could attempt some sort of defense in the impeachment hearing. Too bad they chose to take a hard pass on that in favor of squawking and flapping their wings.
How is that a criminal act? We have no obligation to give them money. When we do give money, why would we give it to a country that reeks of corruption? When they start cracking down on corruption, then we’ll be willing to to give them aid. Nothing wrong, immoral, or illegal about it.
You also haven’t cited which law this supposedly breaks.
The fact that a corruption investigation would look bad for old Joe, isn’t an excuse to prevent such an investigation. Maybe if Dems don’t like being outted as corrupt then they shouldn’t be such corrupt assholes, eh?
Trump wanted dirt on his political opponent. He withheld congressionally approved military aid in order to force Ukraine to provide said dirt, or to pretend they would provide it via an 'investigation.'
That sure looks like bribery to me.
I don't need to cite a law, I am not a lawyer, nor am I in charge of any part of the impeachment process. I am an observer, nothing more.
About Joe Biden, why doesn't Trump demand his justice department open an investigation into Joe & Hunter? Why all the secrecy with the hidden call transcript and why all the arm twisting with the Ukrainians?
You are right. He doesn't. However he is ,as of now, running for the nomination for the democrat party. He would have to declare a run as an independent for your theory to hold up.Wrong, he need not win the Democrats' nomination to run in the general election.No. Right now Biden is running to be the democrat nominee. Once he wins that race he will then be running against Trump for president.Both Biden and Trump are running for the same office.Trump wanted dirt on his political opponent.
Who is his political opponent, and how did Trump conclude he was? Nobody knows who his opponent is going to be.
About Joe Biden, why doesn't Trump demand his justice department open an investigation into Joe & Hunter?
Because honest people (which Democrats are not) need to provide some kind of evidence of wrongdoing, not just because it looks so bad. It's clear why drug head was hired for a multi-million dollar paying job, but again, no evidence of what was provided in exchange for giving him that gravy job.
Even worse for your position... if it were allowed to solicit foreign nationals for help to eliminate presidential hopefuls prior to the primaries under the fallacious excuse they're not political rivals of an incumbent president running for re-election, that would allow a president to violate campaign laws to eliminate every single candidate from the opposing party.
Wanting to investigate what and why they paid Hunter Biden is definitely jumping into America's domestic political arena.You mean the CORRUPT UKRAINE INVESTIGATING ITSELF...you idiots are the ones that pushed that fallacy...and FACT CHECK is another SOROS FUNDED organization through his shell companiesOh. THAT investigation. The one investigating the shit you guys made up. There was a clear investigation into Burisma by Ukraine, and the actors/timeline all involved situations BEFORE Hunter went on their board.That is another FUCKING LIE there has never been an investigation into Biden, his son and his involvement with HIS EXTORTION....IF SO POST IT, and not just some left wing pundit saying so....we can wait!The corruption allegations against Joe Biden were NOT CREDIBLE. According to everyone who has testified so far. Including the million-dollar Trump supporter Sondland, who the Republicans thought were on "their side."The criminal act was withholding the military aid in exchange for the announcement of an investigation.
Yes definitely. I've seen enough testimony to convince me that Trump should be impeached. He will have a chance to present his witnesses in the senate trial.
That's how this process works. What we are watching right now is not the trial. That happens after the impeachment.
However, the GOP could attempt some sort of defense in the impeachment hearing. Too bad they chose to take a hard pass on that in favor of squawking and flapping their wings.
How is that a criminal act? We have no obligation to give them money. When we do give money, why would we give it to a country that reeks of corruption? When they start cracking down on corruption, then we’ll be willing to to give them aid. Nothing wrong, immoral, or illegal about it.
You also haven’t cited which law this supposedly breaks.
The fact that a corruption investigation would look bad for old Joe, isn’t an excuse to prevent such an investigation. Maybe if Dems don’t like being outted as corrupt then they shouldn’t be such corrupt assholes, eh?
When are you people going to wake up and smell the coffee?
There is absolutely no evidence, except an active and hostile imagination on your part, to support that there was any extortion involved.
Fact check: What Joe and Hunter Biden actually did in Ukraine
Now let's get a NEW INVESTIGATION GOING under the NEW PRESIDENT....
Ukraine Wants To Probe the Company That Paid Hunter Biden. But It's 'Too Sensitive'
Pretty cut and dry
Oh, hell, yes, that's cut and dry, if you have your head up your ass.
So angry, Pedro. Conjecture is not enough to convict in this country.
If there's no dirt on the Biden's, then what are you guys so worried about? Let Hunter testify.It's a pity Trump went to a foreign national to get help for an investigation into Biden rather than go to his own DoJ. He wouldn't be getting impeached if he had.actually, it's the DOJ's business to investigate biden, and they are. Not trump. you should learn your agencies better.nope, trump is doing the state's business, unlike the congressional house. They are the one's with the actual quid pro quo going on right now. I want the government business being done, not their infectious fantasies.Trump isn't investigating anyone.
Not even Biden? He only wants to outsource that? We have a Justice Dept and investigative agencies, but The Only One wants Ukraine to announce an investigation. That's fucked-up, comrade.
It's the state's business to investigate Biden, if there is evidence of wrongdoing. You just said Trump isn't investigating anyone. Your silly deflection to Congress is noted.
Of course it is.Yes but we have EVIDENCE OF HER FELONIES....Liar. The right holds that record over Hillary at 26 years (and counting).
All YOU GOT is HE HURT MY FEELINGS, AND "PRESUMED" with nothing else!
What evidence do you have that Hillary committed felonies? Why haven't you revealed this evidence? Why haven't any of the more than 20 investigations ever produced any of this evidence?
Trump has ONE investigation, out of which come 5 credible charges of obstruction of justice, and a second impeachment investigation where he's already admitted to abuse of power.
I'm starting to wonder if all of this pissing around in the Ukraine is Trump's hissy fit because the Ukrainians revealed Manafort's corruption with the Black Ledger.
he admitted being asked by someone in Ukraine government for his services. Why would any foreign government offer a job to a Military Lt. Cpl of the USA? That's all I need to know.Uh, the only commie I see is the couch dwelling pussy who was pulling his own taffy to comic books while Vinland was dodging bullets for his country, only to try to nip at his ankles later when he says something that reflects poorly on his great orange Vozhd .That would be you.Fuck you commie, the SOB got a few scratches and was back on duty the same damn day.
Then lock her up!Lock them up!
Any ... day ... nowwwwwww!
I think it that was what they originally wanted, they have other questions.Actually they asked, lawyers for the whistleblower are debating if they want them to. I have however personally no objection. If his identity could remain unknown in thé process, I wouldn't care if the house deposed him either. His original complaint has been verified by multiple witnesses, so I don't think he has more relevant things to say but sure. The problem is that Trump has already been caught on camera, implying he should get shot, and God knows, that there are plenty of people who would gladly do so.Just heard on NBC. The FBI is going to interview the whistleblowner..lolThey challenged the subpoenas in court. Try to get some facts for once.it's not an official impeachment. he isn't obstructing shit.Of course, you are allowed to defend yourself. Defending yourself tough does NOT include the right to withhold evidence. You can't defend yourself by shooting a witness for instance either. There are limits on the right to defend yourself. Refusing to comply with a subpoena issued by the house is one of those.
It's official. Refusing to comply with a subpoena issued by the house is obstruction whether this is an impeachment inquiry or not.
nope, trump is doing the state's business, unlike the congressional house. They are the one's with the actual quid pro quo going on right now. I want the government business being done, not their infectious fantasies.Trump isn't investigating anyone.HMM: Ukrainian MPs demand Zelensky, Trump investigate suspicion of U.S.-Ukraine corruption involving $7.4 bln.
“Ukrainian members of parliament have demanded the presidents of Ukraine and the United States, Volodymyr Zelensky and Donald Trump, investigate suspicions of the legalization of $7.4 billion by the ‘family’ of ex-President Viktor Yanukovych through the American investment fund Franklin Templeton Investments, which they said has ties to the U.S. Democratic Party.”Well, stay tuned.
Maybe Trump should have been investigating Franklin Templeton.
Not even Biden? He only wants to outsource that? We have a Justice Dept and investigative agencies, but The Only One wants Ukraine to announce an investigation. That's fucked-up, comrade.
I want you impeached. you think I could do that? I have the same chance as the demofks and you're sorry traitorous ass.[/QUOTE]I think it that was what they originally wanted, they have other questions.Actually they asked, lawyers for the whistleblower are debating if they want them to. I have however personally no objection. If his identity could remain unknown in thé process, I wouldn't care if the house deposed him either. His original complaint has been verified by multiple witnesses, so I don't think he has more relevant things to say but sure. The problem is that Trump has already been caught on camera, implying he should get shot, and God knows, that there are plenty of people who would gladly do so.Just heard on NBC. The FBI is going to interview the whistleblowner..lolThey challenged the subpoenas in court. Try to get some facts for once.it's not an official impeachment. he isn't obstructing shit.
It's official. Refusing to comply with a subpoena issued by the house is obstruction whether this is an impeachment inquiry or not.
I want Trump impeached and the Senate to ask Hunter and the Leaker what's up.
But on Dec 11, 2019. This will all be mute.
What I am most proud of as an American is that Sondlam's congressman told people to boycott and protest his businesses and the many threats he and his family have gotten. This makes me so proud of what America is really about. I bet it makes you even prouder right?
I got caught with my hand in the cookie jar, but I did not want a cookie and I did not take a cookie.
I cannot wait to see Trump throw Rudy under the bus he has with his name on it.
What was Trump responding to when he said he "did not ask for nothing" "did not ask for a Quid pro quo ("a favor for a favor")
Why can't those close to trump be subpoenaed? Is it because they would under oath commit perjury?
What was Trump's interest in the company that Biden son worked for but no other companies?-
He has not exposed anything because there is nothing to expose but to put doubt in the minds of voters. Trump gives new meaning to the word of corruption.The criminal act was withholding the military aid in exchange for the announcement of an investigation.No, he just wanted Ukraine to say they were investigating Bidens. It didn't actually have to do it, just say it.
And where is the criminal act in that?
Yes definitely. I've seen enough testimony to convince me that Trump should be impeached. He will have a chance to present his witnesses in the senate trial.I haven't watched the hearings today, but for a few minutes I had it on while waiting on someone.
One question comes to mind. In this case, could you honestly vote for impeachment of the Republican when the hearings did not allow Republican witnesses and the entire hearings were orchestrated by the Democrats?
The same questions come to mind if a Democrat was being charged with a crime targeting impeachment when the Democrats did not have the same rules as the Republicans?
So, as I hear this evening, maybe impeachment is appropriate, but the way the hearings were handled would make me either vote no or not be present.
What do you think? Try to be honest.
That's how this process works. What we are watching right now is not the trial. That happens after the impeachment.
However, the GOP could attempt some sort of defense in the impeachment hearing. Too bad they chose to take a hard pass on that in favor of squawking and flapping their wings.
How is that a criminal act? We have no obligation to give them money. When we do give money, why would we give it to a country that reeks of corruption? When they start cracking down on corruption, then we’ll be willing to to give them aid. Nothing wrong, immoral, or illegal about it.
You also haven’t cited which law this supposedly breaks.
The fact that a corruption investigation would look bad for old Joe, isn’t an excuse to prevent such an investigation. Maybe if Dems don’t like being outted as corrupt then they shouldn’t be such corrupt assholes, eh?
Trump wanted dirt on his political opponent. He withheld congressionally approved military aid in order to force Ukraine to provide said dirt, or to pretend they would provide it via an 'investigation.'
That sure looks like bribery to me.
I don't need to cite a law, I am not a lawyer, nor am I in charge of any part of the impeachment process. I am an observer, nothing more.
About Joe Biden, why doesn't Trump demand his justice department open an investigation into Joe & Hunter? Why all the secrecy with the hidden call transcript and why all the arm twisting with the Ukrainians?
If there is “dirt” on Joe, it would only be there if he is guilty of corruption. Isn’t it in the interest of every voter to know if Joe was neck deep in Ukrainian corruption during his time as VP, especially if he is running for President?
Funny how informing the American people of Dem corruption is being defined as “bribery” for President Trump.
It’s Hillary Clinton all over again. You’re blaming President Trump or a foreign power of “election interference” simply for exposing actual Democrat corruption and crimes. You people can never hold your politicians accountable for their corruption and crimes.
