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One of the many examples of R-W hypocrisy....

There have only been 2 presidents who assumed the presidency with less than the popular vote since the 1800s Bush and Trump, and Bush didn't even win........he was appointed by the SC.

One of two things here about that lie: you either are informed and realize you are lying, or you are uninformed and don't realize you're lying.

Presidents Winning Without Popular Vote - FactCheck.org
Q: How many times was a president elected who did not win the popular vote?

A: It has happened five times.

FULL ANSWER

The 2016 election was the most recent when the candidate who received the greatest number of electoral votes, and thus won the presidency, didn’t win the popular vote. But this scenario has played out in our nation’s history before.

In 1824, John Quincy Adams was elected president despite not winning either the popular vote or the electoral vote. Andrew Jackson was the winner in both categories. Jackson received 38,000 more popular votes than Adams, and beat him in the electoral vote 99 to 84. Despite his victories, Jackson didn’t reach the majority 131 votes needed in the Electoral College to be declared president. In fact, neither candidate did. The decision went to the House of Representatives, which voted Adams into the White House.

In 1876, Rutherford B. Hayes won the election (by a margin of one electoral vote), but he lost the popular vote by more than 250,000 ballots to Samuel J. Tilden.

In 1888, Benjamin Harrison received 233 electoral votes to Grover Cleveland’s 168, winning the presidency. But Harrison lost the popular vote by more than 90,000 votes.

In 2000, George W. Bush was declared the winner of the general election and became the 43rd president, but he didn’t win the popular vote either. Al Gore holds that distinction, garnering about 540,000 more votes than Bush. However, Bush won the electoral vote, 271 to 266.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the electoral vote by 304 to 227 over Hillary Clinton, but Trump lost the popular vote. Clinton received nearly 2.9 million more votes than Trump, according to an analysis by the Associated Press of the certified results in all 50 states and Washington, D.C.

Update, Dec. 23, 2016: We have updated this article to include the results of the 2016 election.

Sources
Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Electoral Vote Totals, 12 March 2008

Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Popular Vote Totals, 12 March 2008

Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, Historical Election Results: 1789-2004 Presidential Elections, 12 March 2008

Excellent!

Now,

How many have been elected without winning the Electoral Vote?
 
There have only been 2 presidents who assumed the presidency with less than the popular vote since the 1800s Bush and Trump, and Bush didn't even win........he was appointed by the SC.

One of two things here about that lie: you either are informed and realize you are lying, or you are uninformed and don't realize you're lying.

Presidents Winning Without Popular Vote - FactCheck.org
Q: How many times was a president elected who did not win the popular vote?

A: It has happened five times.

FULL ANSWER

The 2016 election was the most recent when the candidate who received the greatest number of electoral votes, and thus won the presidency, didn’t win the popular vote. But this scenario has played out in our nation’s history before.

In 1824, John Quincy Adams was elected president despite not winning either the popular vote or the electoral vote. Andrew Jackson was the winner in both categories. Jackson received 38,000 more popular votes than Adams, and beat him in the electoral vote 99 to 84. Despite his victories, Jackson didn’t reach the majority 131 votes needed in the Electoral College to be declared president. In fact, neither candidate did. The decision went to the House of Representatives, which voted Adams into the White House.

In 1876, Rutherford B. Hayes won the election (by a margin of one electoral vote), but he lost the popular vote by more than 250,000 ballots to Samuel J. Tilden.

In 1888, Benjamin Harrison received 233 electoral votes to Grover Cleveland’s 168, winning the presidency. But Harrison lost the popular vote by more than 90,000 votes.

In 2000, George W. Bush was declared the winner of the general election and became the 43rd president, but he didn’t win the popular vote either. Al Gore holds that distinction, garnering about 540,000 more votes than Bush. However, Bush won the electoral vote, 271 to 266.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the electoral vote by 304 to 227 over Hillary Clinton, but Trump lost the popular vote. Clinton received nearly 2.9 million more votes than Trump, according to an analysis by the Associated Press of the certified results in all 50 states and Washington, D.C.

Update, Dec. 23, 2016: We have updated this article to include the results of the 2016 election.

Sources
Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Electoral Vote Totals, 12 March 2008

Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Popular Vote Totals, 12 March 2008

Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, Historical Election Results: 1789-2004 Presidential Elections, 12 March 2008


....and your point is?
 
didn't know there was a statue of limitations on checking the status of illegal immigrants.

How long is it?


Hey fuck head.....you can't be THAT dumb and still turn on your "puter all by yourself.........

You arrest a DARKIE for speeding, lets say........That DARKIE pays off his fine...Are you allowed to keep that DARKIE in jail until an ICE agent checks outs his legal status?................. Come on , moron, you don't have to a be a lawyer to figure that out and THAT is exactly what Arpaio was himself convicted on.
 
There have only been 2 presidents who assumed the presidency with less than the popular vote since the 1800s Bush and Trump, and Bush didn't even win........he was appointed by the SC.

One of two things here about that lie: you either are informed and realize you are lying, or you are uninformed and don't realize you're lying.

Presidents Winning Without Popular Vote - FactCheck.org
Q: How many times was a president elected who did not win the popular vote?

A: It has happened five times.

FULL ANSWER

The 2016 election was the most recent when the candidate who received the greatest number of electoral votes, and thus won the presidency, didn’t win the popular vote. But this scenario has played out in our nation’s history before.

In 1824, John Quincy Adams was elected president despite not winning either the popular vote or the electoral vote. Andrew Jackson was the winner in both categories. Jackson received 38,000 more popular votes than Adams, and beat him in the electoral vote 99 to 84. Despite his victories, Jackson didn’t reach the majority 131 votes needed in the Electoral College to be declared president. In fact, neither candidate did. The decision went to the House of Representatives, which voted Adams into the White House.

In 1876, Rutherford B. Hayes won the election (by a margin of one electoral vote), but he lost the popular vote by more than 250,000 ballots to Samuel J. Tilden.

In 1888, Benjamin Harrison received 233 electoral votes to Grover Cleveland’s 168, winning the presidency. But Harrison lost the popular vote by more than 90,000 votes.

In 2000, George W. Bush was declared the winner of the general election and became the 43rd president, but he didn’t win the popular vote either. Al Gore holds that distinction, garnering about 540,000 more votes than Bush. However, Bush won the electoral vote, 271 to 266.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the electoral vote by 304 to 227 over Hillary Clinton, but Trump lost the popular vote. Clinton received nearly 2.9 million more votes than Trump, according to an analysis by the Associated Press of the certified results in all 50 states and Washington, D.C.

Update, Dec. 23, 2016: We have updated this article to include the results of the 2016 election.

Sources
Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Electoral Vote Totals, 12 March 2008

Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Popular Vote Totals, 12 March 2008

Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, Historical Election Results: 1789-2004 Presidential Elections, 12 March 2008

Excellent!

Now,

How many have been elected without winning the Electoral Vote?

That's just dumb. The electoral vote is an anomaly. It has only differed from the popular vote 5 times in the history of our country, and only twice since the 1800s.
The larger part of the country didn't want Trump as president. The electoral college glitch put him in that position. Yes, he did technically win, but he's illegitimate.
 
I would like you to point out the words gay marriage, or "gay" or "marriage" anywhere in the Constitution. I can point to "arms" in the Constitution, so I would say your argument is apples and oranges.


Here's a rotten "apple" in the Constitution; the document was NOT without flaws and if you right wing morons want to get your MORALITY from the Constitution, you must also acknowledge your fucking prejudices and join Arpaio's morality ...

The Constitution ALSO addresses the existence and condoning of SLAVERY.
For example, the Enumeration Clause, where representatives are apportioned. Each state is given a number of representatives based on its population - in that population, slaves, called "other persons," are counted as three-fifths of a whole person.

You clearly do not understand what you are talking about.

"For example, the Enumeration Clause, where representatives are apportioned. Each state is given a number of representatives based on its population"

Correct, now why would they put in this "3/5ths" compromise?
 
The larger part of the country didn't want Trump as president. The electoral college glitch put him in that position. Yes, he did technically win, but he's illegitimate.


......and that same "glitch" gave us Cheney and his side-kick, GWB.
 
There have only been 2 presidents who assumed the presidency with less than the popular vote since the 1800s Bush and Trump, and Bush didn't even win........he was appointed by the SC.

One of two things here about that lie: you either are informed and realize you are lying, or you are uninformed and don't realize you're lying.

Presidents Winning Without Popular Vote - FactCheck.org
Q: How many times was a president elected who did not win the popular vote?

A: It has happened five times.

FULL ANSWER

The 2016 election was the most recent when the candidate who received the greatest number of electoral votes, and thus won the presidency, didn’t win the popular vote. But this scenario has played out in our nation’s history before.

In 1824, John Quincy Adams was elected president despite not winning either the popular vote or the electoral vote. Andrew Jackson was the winner in both categories. Jackson received 38,000 more popular votes than Adams, and beat him in the electoral vote 99 to 84. Despite his victories, Jackson didn’t reach the majority 131 votes needed in the Electoral College to be declared president. In fact, neither candidate did. The decision went to the House of Representatives, which voted Adams into the White House.

In 1876, Rutherford B. Hayes won the election (by a margin of one electoral vote), but he lost the popular vote by more than 250,000 ballots to Samuel J. Tilden.

In 1888, Benjamin Harrison received 233 electoral votes to Grover Cleveland’s 168, winning the presidency. But Harrison lost the popular vote by more than 90,000 votes.

In 2000, George W. Bush was declared the winner of the general election and became the 43rd president, but he didn’t win the popular vote either. Al Gore holds that distinction, garnering about 540,000 more votes than Bush. However, Bush won the electoral vote, 271 to 266.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the electoral vote by 304 to 227 over Hillary Clinton, but Trump lost the popular vote. Clinton received nearly 2.9 million more votes than Trump, according to an analysis by the Associated Press of the certified results in all 50 states and Washington, D.C.

Update, Dec. 23, 2016: We have updated this article to include the results of the 2016 election.

Sources
Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Electoral Vote Totals, 12 March 2008

Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Popular Vote Totals, 12 March 2008

Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, Historical Election Results: 1789-2004 Presidential Elections, 12 March 2008

Excellent!

Now,

How many have been elected without winning the Electoral Vote?

That's just dumb. The electoral vote is an anomaly. It has only differed from the popular vote 5 times in the history of our country, and only twice since the 1800s.
The larger part of the country didn't want Trump as president. The electoral college glitch put him in that position. Yes, he did technically win, but he's illegitimate.

Doesnt' answer the question.

Care to try again?
 
There have only been 2 presidents who assumed the presidency with less than the popular vote since the 1800s Bush and Trump, and Bush didn't even win........he was appointed by the SC.

One of two things here about that lie: you either are informed and realize you are lying, or you are uninformed and don't realize you're lying.

Presidents Winning Without Popular Vote - FactCheck.org
Q: How many times was a president elected who did not win the popular vote?

A: It has happened five times.

FULL ANSWER

The 2016 election was the most recent when the candidate who received the greatest number of electoral votes, and thus won the presidency, didn’t win the popular vote. But this scenario has played out in our nation’s history before.

In 1824, John Quincy Adams was elected president despite not winning either the popular vote or the electoral vote. Andrew Jackson was the winner in both categories. Jackson received 38,000 more popular votes than Adams, and beat him in the electoral vote 99 to 84. Despite his victories, Jackson didn’t reach the majority 131 votes needed in the Electoral College to be declared president. In fact, neither candidate did. The decision went to the House of Representatives, which voted Adams into the White House.

In 1876, Rutherford B. Hayes won the election (by a margin of one electoral vote), but he lost the popular vote by more than 250,000 ballots to Samuel J. Tilden.

In 1888, Benjamin Harrison received 233 electoral votes to Grover Cleveland’s 168, winning the presidency. But Harrison lost the popular vote by more than 90,000 votes.

In 2000, George W. Bush was declared the winner of the general election and became the 43rd president, but he didn’t win the popular vote either. Al Gore holds that distinction, garnering about 540,000 more votes than Bush. However, Bush won the electoral vote, 271 to 266.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the electoral vote by 304 to 227 over Hillary Clinton, but Trump lost the popular vote. Clinton received nearly 2.9 million more votes than Trump, according to an analysis by the Associated Press of the certified results in all 50 states and Washington, D.C.

Update, Dec. 23, 2016: We have updated this article to include the results of the 2016 election.

Sources
Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Electoral Vote Totals, 12 March 2008

Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Popular Vote Totals, 12 March 2008

Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, Historical Election Results: 1789-2004 Presidential Elections, 12 March 2008


....and your point is?

If you can't figure it out, you're too far gone for me to teach you.
 
There have only been 2 presidents who assumed the presidency with less than the popular vote since the 1800s Bush and Trump, and Bush didn't even win........he was appointed by the SC.

One of two things here about that lie: you either are informed and realize you are lying, or you are uninformed and don't realize you're lying.

Presidents Winning Without Popular Vote - FactCheck.org
Q: How many times was a president elected who did not win the popular vote?

A: It has happened five times.

FULL ANSWER

The 2016 election was the most recent when the candidate who received the greatest number of electoral votes, and thus won the presidency, didn’t win the popular vote. But this scenario has played out in our nation’s history before.

In 1824, John Quincy Adams was elected president despite not winning either the popular vote or the electoral vote. Andrew Jackson was the winner in both categories. Jackson received 38,000 more popular votes than Adams, and beat him in the electoral vote 99 to 84. Despite his victories, Jackson didn’t reach the majority 131 votes needed in the Electoral College to be declared president. In fact, neither candidate did. The decision went to the House of Representatives, which voted Adams into the White House.

In 1876, Rutherford B. Hayes won the election (by a margin of one electoral vote), but he lost the popular vote by more than 250,000 ballots to Samuel J. Tilden.

In 1888, Benjamin Harrison received 233 electoral votes to Grover Cleveland’s 168, winning the presidency. But Harrison lost the popular vote by more than 90,000 votes.

In 2000, George W. Bush was declared the winner of the general election and became the 43rd president, but he didn’t win the popular vote either. Al Gore holds that distinction, garnering about 540,000 more votes than Bush. However, Bush won the electoral vote, 271 to 266.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the electoral vote by 304 to 227 over Hillary Clinton, but Trump lost the popular vote. Clinton received nearly 2.9 million more votes than Trump, according to an analysis by the Associated Press of the certified results in all 50 states and Washington, D.C.

Update, Dec. 23, 2016: We have updated this article to include the results of the 2016 election.

Sources
Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Electoral Vote Totals, 12 March 2008

Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Popular Vote Totals, 12 March 2008

Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, Historical Election Results: 1789-2004 Presidential Elections, 12 March 2008


....and your point is?

If you can't figure it out, you're too far gone for me to teach you.

Son you aren't qualified for any of these conversations,.
 
You clearly do not understand what you are talking about.

"For example, the Enumeration Clause, where representatives are apportioned. Each state is given a number of representatives based on its population"

Correct, now why would they put in this "3/5ths" compromise?


What the fuck are you blabbering about??? The 3/5 compromise was about counting HUMAN BEINGS as 3/5 of a person.......BE PROUD you racist moron.
 
Mention to right wingers that Trump won election because of the outdated electoral college system.....and they quickly respond with....."LOOK at the Constitution..."

Or dare mention that stricter gun laws should be enacted to curb the butchery....and they quickly respond with........"LOOK at the Constitution."

But when one of their ilk is convicted of breaking tenets within the Constitution, like the old goat Joe Arpaio did and this bigot gets pardoned....some of them quickly respond with......"us racists stick together."


Remember that under Trump, LAW and ORDER means to NEGATE a judge's ruling....Remember THAT when future rulings are overturned.
 
bn+jlk
You clearly do not understand what you are talking about.

"For example, the Enumeration Clause, where representatives are apportioned. Each state is given a number of representatives based on its population"

Correct, now why would they put in this "3/5ths" compromise?


What the fuck are you blabbering about??? The 3/5 compromise was about counting HUMAN BEINGS as 3/5 of a person.......BE PROUD you racist moron.

As I said you have understanding of the subject therefore emotion rules you.

Again, what was the reason for the 3/5ths "compromise"? I'll give you a hint kid, the answer is in one of your posts and I've already alluded to it.
 
As I said you have understanding of the subject therefore emotion rules you.

Again, what was the reason for the 3/5ths "compromise"? I'll give you a hint kid, the answer is in one of your posts and I've already alluded to it.


Look you moron.....My point was and is that the Constitution has many flaws, and one of them was the condoning of slavery....PERIOD......Now go hump a lamppost.
 
There have only been 2 presidents who assumed the presidency with less than the popular vote since the 1800s Bush and Trump, and Bush didn't even win........he was appointed by the SC.

One of two things here about that lie: you either are informed and realize you are lying, or you are uninformed and don't realize you're lying.

Presidents Winning Without Popular Vote - FactCheck.org
Q: How many times was a president elected who did not win the popular vote?

A: It has happened five times.

FULL ANSWER

The 2016 election was the most recent when the candidate who received the greatest number of electoral votes, and thus won the presidency, didn’t win the popular vote. But this scenario has played out in our nation’s history before.

In 1824, John Quincy Adams was elected president despite not winning either the popular vote or the electoral vote. Andrew Jackson was the winner in both categories. Jackson received 38,000 more popular votes than Adams, and beat him in the electoral vote 99 to 84. Despite his victories, Jackson didn’t reach the majority 131 votes needed in the Electoral College to be declared president. In fact, neither candidate did. The decision went to the House of Representatives, which voted Adams into the White House.

In 1876, Rutherford B. Hayes won the election (by a margin of one electoral vote), but he lost the popular vote by more than 250,000 ballots to Samuel J. Tilden.

In 1888, Benjamin Harrison received 233 electoral votes to Grover Cleveland’s 168, winning the presidency. But Harrison lost the popular vote by more than 90,000 votes.

In 2000, George W. Bush was declared the winner of the general election and became the 43rd president, but he didn’t win the popular vote either. Al Gore holds that distinction, garnering about 540,000 more votes than Bush. However, Bush won the electoral vote, 271 to 266.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the electoral vote by 304 to 227 over Hillary Clinton, but Trump lost the popular vote. Clinton received nearly 2.9 million more votes than Trump, according to an analysis by the Associated Press of the certified results in all 50 states and Washington, D.C.

Update, Dec. 23, 2016: We have updated this article to include the results of the 2016 election.

Sources
Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Electoral Vote Totals, 12 March 2008

Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Popular Vote Totals, 12 March 2008

Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, Historical Election Results: 1789-2004 Presidential Elections, 12 March 2008

Excellent!

Now,

How many have been elected without winning the Electoral Vote?

That's just dumb. The electoral vote is an anomaly. It has only differed from the popular vote 5 times in the history of our country, and only twice since the 1800s.
The larger part of the country didn't want Trump as president. The electoral college glitch put him in that position. Yes, he did technically win, but he's illegitimate.

Doesnt' answer the question.

Care to try again?

There is no question that the electoral vote is the technical deciding factor. The fact that only 2 presidents since the 1800s won the electoral college, but not the popular vote, proves it is just a glitch.
 
As I said you have understanding of the subject therefore emotion rules you.

Again, what was the reason for the 3/5ths "compromise"? I'll give you a hint kid, the answer is in one of your posts and I've already alluded to it.


Look you moron.....My point was and is that the Constitution has many flaws, and one of them was the condoning of slavery....PERIOD......Now go hump a lamppost.

Why are you so afraid to answer kid?
 
There is no question that the electoral vote is the technical deciding factor. The fact that only 2 presidents since the 1800s won the electoral college, but not the popular vote, proves it is just a glitch.


Right on target.....and for those morons who deride polls, should be reminded that most polls gauge the INDIVIDUAL (popular) vote, and in that sense, they were on target last year with Hillary winning that popular vote.

(now watch the morons claim that 60 MILLION people voted for Hillary but were ALL illegal aliens.......LOL)
 
There have only been 2 presidents who assumed the presidency with less than the popular vote since the 1800s Bush and Trump, and Bush didn't even win........he was appointed by the SC.

One of two things here about that lie: you either are informed and realize you are lying, or you are uninformed and don't realize you're lying.

Presidents Winning Without Popular Vote - FactCheck.org
Q: How many times was a president elected who did not win the popular vote?

A: It has happened five times.

FULL ANSWER

The 2016 election was the most recent when the candidate who received the greatest number of electoral votes, and thus won the presidency, didn’t win the popular vote. But this scenario has played out in our nation’s history before.

In 1824, John Quincy Adams was elected president despite not winning either the popular vote or the electoral vote. Andrew Jackson was the winner in both categories. Jackson received 38,000 more popular votes than Adams, and beat him in the electoral vote 99 to 84. Despite his victories, Jackson didn’t reach the majority 131 votes needed in the Electoral College to be declared president. In fact, neither candidate did. The decision went to the House of Representatives, which voted Adams into the White House.

In 1876, Rutherford B. Hayes won the election (by a margin of one electoral vote), but he lost the popular vote by more than 250,000 ballots to Samuel J. Tilden.

In 1888, Benjamin Harrison received 233 electoral votes to Grover Cleveland’s 168, winning the presidency. But Harrison lost the popular vote by more than 90,000 votes.

In 2000, George W. Bush was declared the winner of the general election and became the 43rd president, but he didn’t win the popular vote either. Al Gore holds that distinction, garnering about 540,000 more votes than Bush. However, Bush won the electoral vote, 271 to 266.

In 2016, Donald Trump won the electoral vote by 304 to 227 over Hillary Clinton, but Trump lost the popular vote. Clinton received nearly 2.9 million more votes than Trump, according to an analysis by the Associated Press of the certified results in all 50 states and Washington, D.C.

Update, Dec. 23, 2016: We have updated this article to include the results of the 2016 election.

Sources
Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Electoral Vote Totals, 12 March 2008

Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Popular Vote Totals, 12 March 2008

Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, Historical Election Results: 1789-2004 Presidential Elections, 12 March 2008


....and your point is?

If you can't figure it out, you're too far gone for me to teach you.

Son you aren't qualified for any of these conversations,.

I'll admit that I'm often confused with the right wing's version of logic
 

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