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When your bureaucrats say you've failed, you've failed. I have never seen this before, the diplomatic corps criticizing a presidential policy. Obama is truly the worst president in american history.
U.S. Diplomats Rebuke Obama On Syria And Call For Strikes On Assad
With this much consensus it must clearly be wrong.
I'll offer the opposite view. Once Obama made an issue of Syria's use of chemical weapons then it became something we would have to do. Chemical weapons are the big taboo of war. Hardly anyone has used them since WW1. Even Hitler would not use chem weapons.
If we stand aside and let Assad's use of them go then it will give the greenlight to everyone in the world to start using them. We must take a stand, a credible one, and show that use of chemical weapons is unacceptable. Lobbing a few cruise missiles will not do that.
There are few good options here. That is the position Obama and his inexperience have gotten us into. But that is where we are.
Totally unheard of. Career diplomats simply DO NOT EVER contradict the president.
However, their demand to go directly after Sadat is a stupid thing to do. He's got strong backing by Putin and the consequences could be severe.
Well we are. Look at France. Both the San Bernadino and Orlando attacks were tied to what we're already doing.So you guys think we should get mixed up in another nation’s civil war?
Totally unheard of. Career diplomats simply DO NOT EVER contradict the president.
However, their demand to go directly after Sadat is a stupid thing to do. He's got strong backing by Putin and the consequences could be severe.
Totally unheard of. Career diplomats simply DO NOT EVER contradict the president.
However, their demand to go directly after Sadat is a stupid thing to do. He's got strong backing by Putin and the consequences could be severe.
They might as well be asking for Obama to attack Moscow.
Well we are. Look at France. Both the San Bernadino and Orlando attacks were tied to what we're already doing.So you guys think we should get mixed up in another nation’s civil war?
I am not for sending in a RCT or the 82AB to wipe out the 5000 or so ISIS fighters, but Obama is against anything but drone strikes and aircraft carrier strikes, which is hardly the kind of direct support we could do with artillery and forward observation. Obama's determined to leave office with a bare minimum footprint of American power deployed overseas. I think it's a fair criticism of him that when some of us look back at JFK and even Reagan, and we see that while innocent people were killed, on balance America did more good than bad, and Obama doesn't see it that way. That doesn't mean he's not a American or Christian. He should have been a one termer like Carter, though.
When your bureaucrats say you've failed, you've failed. I have never seen this before, the diplomatic corps criticizing a presidential policy. Obama is truly the worst president in american history.
U.S. Diplomats Rebuke Obama On Syria And Call For Strikes On Assad
Well, there have now been two terror attacks HERE with ideological ties to ISIS, so that in itself answers your question. But more explicitly, when we tracked down al Queda's money, we were only able to do it with the cooperation of Britain and Europe, and we were aided in Afghanistan, which while not perfect will not be a terror training ground again, so watching Germany and France destabilize should never have been the option Obama apparently thought it was.Well we are. Look at France. Both the San Bernadino and Orlando attacks were tied to what we're already doing.So you guys think we should get mixed up in another nation’s civil war?
I am not for sending in a RCT or the 82AB to wipe out the 5000 or so ISIS fighters, but Obama is against anything but drone strikes and aircraft carrier strikes, which is hardly the kind of direct support we could do with artillery and forward observation. Obama's determined to leave office with a bare minimum footprint of American power deployed overseas. I think it's a fair criticism of him that when some of us look back at JFK and even Reagan, and we see that while innocent people were killed, on balance America did more good than bad, and Obama doesn't see it that way. That doesn't mean he's not a American or Christian. He should have been a one termer like Carter, though.
Are our national interests at stake?
Will winning (whatever that is) improve our lives one iota? Whomever we install as the new PM will have to denounce us to keep their post….
No way we should even be talking about risking one drop of American blood in Syria.
I respect what 51 foreign ambassadors have to say because THEY KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT IT THAN WE DO. Honest, they do. If they say jump, I hope the President at least considers asking "How high?"
I was consistently right. Obama's policies after 4 years on Syria have been an abject failure. We have failed with every attempt we've made. Every goal set has been met with failure. We did not stop Assad's use of chemical weapons, we did not disarm his chemical arsenal, we did not not unseat Assad, we did not stop ISIS and we have not eliminated terror.Here is what one poster said:
With this much consensus it must clearly be wrong.
I'll offer the opposite view. Once Obama made an issue of Syria's use of chemical weapons then it became something we would have to do. Chemical weapons are the big taboo of war. Hardly anyone has used them since WW1. Even Hitler would not use chem weapons.
If we stand aside and let Assad's use of them go then it will give the greenlight to everyone in the world to start using them. We must take a stand, a credible one, and show that use of chemical weapons is unacceptable. Lobbing a few cruise missiles will not do that.
There are few good options here. That is the position Obama and his inexperience have gotten us into. But that is where we are.
Gotta give him credit for being consistent. In my view, consistently wrong since there is absolutely no win to be had there but Rabid has been consistent since 2013 TTBOMK…
Good on him.
Newsflash: We already are.So you guys think we should get mixed up in another nation’s civil war?
