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Well if you spend some time here and read my past posts, you'll find I'm far from a police officer. I'm a truck driver and part-time landlord. How are you against Communists when your party stands for just about the same things? Why do you suppose the US Communist party endorsed your last three presidential candidates and strongly supported Bernie Sanders?
My Party? I’m not registered Democrat. You know the comment about assuming....
I've never seen you before, so all I can go by is what I read. If it walks like a duck.....quacks like a duck......
Then apparently Republican Senators like Collins and Thillis must be Democrat’s also because my points are the same as theirs.
Perhaps you should get your news from something other than Hannity talk radio.
Lord. Who cares what Pubs think? How are they ANY different than Dems? They aren't you dumbass, there are NOT two party's. Lord you are an idiot.
The two party illusion is one of DC's most potent weapons. Anyone watching what just happened observed McConnell work with the Dems to sink the wall negotiations and pretend they just couldn't do any more.
It's a crock. They are all on the Cartel payroll.
Jo
No law (or order) can override the supreme law of the land.
Good then Trumps Executive order will be overturned on the grounds he can’t use an EO to end run Article 1 of the Constitution .
One more time: he's not overriding anything. He's using money already appropriated by the Congress. A declaration of emergency gives him the legal ability to use money from wherever he desires. Trump is not spending a nickel more than what was appropriated in the last budget.
You need to educate yourself while you are driving a truck and stop listening to Rush and Hannity. I suppose you can’t read so I suggest Tom Sullivan as you at least have a chance at getting some real data.
What real data are you speaking of? Since the passage of the emergency act, it's been used over 50 times by various Presidents. Tell me, how were those declarations funded that made it constitutional in your opinion?
Try doing some real research Ray and look into the use of it to end run the budget process. It has never happened before. It’s a blatant attack on Article 1 of the Constitution.
Right, because anybody that disagrees with a Commie is a white supremacist.
Nope just people who make statements like you. I happen to disagree with communists but don’t make the statements you make. I’m not calling your employer, go ahead and own it.
Well if you spend some time here and read my past posts, you'll find I'm far from a police officer. I'm a truck driver and part-time landlord. How are you against Communists when your party stands for just about the same things? Why do you suppose the US Communist party endorsed your last three presidential candidates and strongly supported Bernie Sanders?
My Party? I’m not registered Democrat. You know the comment about assuming....
I've never seen you before, so all I can go by is what I read. If it walks like a duck.....quacks like a duck......
Then apparently Republican Senators like Collins and Thillis must be Democrat’s also because my points are the same as theirs.
Perhaps you should get your news from something other than Hannity talk radio.
750 billion for the troops, untouched, got anything else? LOL
God bless Nancy Pelosi!
Trump's going to take her joke of a victory and shove it up her wrinkled old crack and get his wall anyway
You mean by stealing money from the troops?
Where is Trump getting border wall money? From funds intended for military family housing upgrades
You think he should be the wall?
God bless Nancy Pelosi!
Trump's going to take her joke of a victory and shove it up her wrinkled old crack and get his wall anyway
You mean by stealing money from the troops?
Where is Trump getting border wall money? From funds intended for military family housing upgradesRepublicans had full control of congress for two years, but blame it on democrats?Blame it on the Democrats it's their fault
God bless Nancy Pelosi!
Trump's going to take her joke of a victory and shove it up her wrinkled old crack and get his wall anyway
You mean by stealing money from the troops?
Where is Trump getting border wall money? From funds intended for military family housing upgrades
What did the guns do?More gun violence today. Speaker Pelosi is correct. Gun violence is a real national emergency - not like Trump's manufactured fake crisis at the border.
Ray, they think they park and play at the border. They’re too stupid to know they infiltrated our country up to CanadaDems Look To Declare National Emergency Over Climate Change, Not A ‘Fake Crisis’
Well, that would certainly make more sense than Trump's phony crisis at the border.
No, because the crisis at the border is real.....not made up.
Just like Harry Reid did with the senateIn other words, you think Nancy is full of shit.You appear to have no idea what powers the President has under a national emergency. Nancy is just trying to save face with her looney remarks about what a future Democratic president, if there ever is one, might do. Obama declared 13 national emergencies and claimed to be in favor of more gun control, so if it were possible to impose gun control by means of a declaration of national emergency, why didn't Obama do it? Clearly, Nancy thinks you are too stupid to think this through.Not to mention that the Supreme Court ruled a long time ago that emergency powers do not include the ability to seize private property without Congressional approval. Which means the Democrats would have the same problem with gun-grabbing that they have right now: they can't convince enough people to agree with them.
You've fallen for your own rhetoric. Nobody will come for anybody's guns. Manufacture of certain guns will be banned, and sales will be monitored. Rules for who can carry and where will also be looked at. That is all gun control advocates have ever wanted, but with the power of a national emergency behind it, the regulations will go much further than anyone ever hoped was possible.
Obama didn't do that because you don't claim national emergencies for partisan purposes.
Well, no. If Trump is allowed to set that precedent, then declaring a national emergency becomes just another partisan tool to be used by either party. Any future president from either party will be free to do it. Pelosi is correct to point that out.
750 billion for the troops, untouched, got anything else? LOL
God bless Nancy Pelosi!
Trump's going to take her joke of a victory and shove it up her wrinkled old crack and get his wall anyway
You mean by stealing money from the troops?
Where is Trump getting border wall money? From funds intended for military family housing upgrades
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The House speaker warned Republicans about the precedent Trump could set by declaring a national emergency to secure border wall funding.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Thursday warned about the dangerous precedent President Donald Trump could set if he declares a national emergency to secure funding for his border wall.
“I know the Republicans have some unease about it, no matter what they say,” Pelosi told reporters at the Capitol. “Because if the president can declare an emergency on something that he has created as an emergency, an illusion that he wants to convey, just think of what a president with different values can present to the American people.”
Pelosi said the situation at the U.S.-Mexico border doesn’t constitute an “emergency,” as Trump has framed it, but rather a “humanitarian challenge.”
“You want to talk about a national emergency?” Pelosi said. “Let’s talk about today, the one-year anniversary of another manifestation of the epidemic of gun violence in America. That’s a national emergency.”
Pelosi was referring to the Feb. 14, 2018 mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida. She noted that a Democratic president could declare a national emergency on gun violence and warned Republicans to carefully consider the precedent Trump would set by using his executive power to override Congress.
“Democratic presidents can declare emergencies as well,” Pelosi said. “So the precedent that the president is setting here is something that should be met with great unease and dismay by the Republicans.”
More: Pelosi To GOP: A Democratic President Could Declare National Emergency On Guns
What goes around comes around. Go Nancy!
So you think an Executive Action can abrogate a Constitutional Right. Aren't you special
So tell me if an executive order can abrogate Article 1 of the Constitution why any other part of the Constitution would be exempt?
An Executive Order must be Constitutional....you realize that, right? Can ANYONE issue an Executive Order to confiscate guns?
Yes or no.
Hell Barry had a horrific record in the SC.
Sure than I assume you would agree Trump’s using an executive order to seize the power of the purse from the legislature violating article 1 of the Constitution would also be invalid.
You want to have it both ways but precedent doesn’t work that way. A point made by more than 1 thoughtful Republican: Susan Collins, Thom Thilis, Tom Sullivan.
The person missing the yes or no question is you not me....
It is not overriding the Constitution. Trump will get that money from a department that's already been funded by the US Congress and passed by the Senate.
You can't declare a national emergency to violate the Constitution, you fucking moron.The House speaker warned Republicans about the precedent Trump could set by declaring a national emergency to secure border wall funding.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Thursday warned about the dangerous precedent President Donald Trump could set if he declares a national emergency to secure funding for his border wall.
“I know the Republicans have some unease about it, no matter what they say,” Pelosi told reporters at the Capitol. “Because if the president can declare an emergency on something that he has created as an emergency, an illusion that he wants to convey, just think of what a president with different values can present to the American people.”
Pelosi said the situation at the U.S.-Mexico border doesn’t constitute an “emergency,” as Trump has framed it, but rather a “humanitarian challenge.”
“You want to talk about a national emergency?” Pelosi said. “Let’s talk about today, the one-year anniversary of another manifestation of the epidemic of gun violence in America. That’s a national emergency.”
Pelosi was referring to the Feb. 14, 2018 mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida. She noted that a Democratic president could declare a national emergency on gun violence and warned Republicans to carefully consider the precedent Trump would set by using his executive power to override Congress.
“Democratic presidents can declare emergencies as well,” Pelosi said. “So the precedent that the president is setting here is something that should be met with great unease and dismay by the Republicans.”
More: Pelosi To GOP: A Democratic President Could Declare National Emergency On Guns
What goes around comes around. Go Nancy!
Pelosi To GOP: A Democratic President Could Declare National Emergency On Guns
Fuck her and you. Let her try. Firearms are a constitutionally-protected right. Walls are not. Nancy would risk civil war over not stopping illegal immigration, the first, highest responsibility of the federal government, to DEFEND OUR BORDERS?
Our second amendment protections while important are an illusion against modern firepower.
Clearly, these illegal Mexicans mean a lot more to her than do US citizens. What's your interest in them, Nancy? You're looking more and more like a TRAITOR to the American people.
Her (and the Democrats) interest is making whites a minority in this country as soon as possible. That's their goal. The Democrat party is now the anti-white party, and they make no bones about it.
Paranoid much?
Clearly, these illegal Mexicans mean a lot more to her than do US citizens. What's your interest in them, Nancy? You're looking more and more like a TRAITOR to the American people.
Her (and the Democrats) interest is making whites a minority in this country as soon as possible. That's their goal. The Democrat party is now the anti-white party, and they make no bones about it.
Paranoid much?
Stupid much?
Clearly, these illegal Mexicans mean a lot more to her than do US citizens. What's your interest in them, Nancy? You're looking more and more like a TRAITOR to the American people.
Her (and the Democrats) interest is making whites a minority in this country as soon as possible. That's their goal. The Democrat party is now the anti-white party, and they make no bones about it.
Paranoid much?
Stupid much?
You think I, being an old white guy, am anti me? One of us is stupid, but it's not me.
Clearly, these illegal Mexicans mean a lot more to her than do US citizens. What's your interest in them, Nancy? You're looking more and more like a TRAITOR to the American people.
Her (and the Democrats) interest is making whites a minority in this country as soon as possible. That's their goal. The Democrat party is now the anti-white party, and they make no bones about it.
Paranoid much?
Stupid much?
You think I, being an old white guy, am anti me? One of us is stupid, but it's not me.
That's the beauty of their plan. You don't know they're out to get rid of us. Instead, they tell us of the heartbreak stories of illegals, immigrants, especially those form S/C America. They tell us it's empathy that drives them. What drives them is power and money.
Every other group outside of whites votes a majority Democrat. We are in the way. We need to be eliminated; not in a genocidal way, but in a political way. The intent is not hating whites, but to form a single-party government for the rest of our days as a country.
Once we are out of the picture, they have unchallenged power. A Republican stands no chance against them. That will be the beginning of the end of the Great Experiment. We will quickly become Socialist, and Communism right behind it.
So you think an Executive Action can abrogate a Constitutional Right. Aren't you special
So tell me if an executive order can abrogate Article 1 of the Constitution why any other part of the Constitution would be exempt?
An Executive Order must be Constitutional....you realize that, right? Can ANYONE issue an Executive Order to confiscate guns?
Yes or no.
Hell Barry had a horrific record in the SC.
Sure than I assume you would agree Trump’s using an executive order to seize the power of the purse from the legislature violating article 1 of the Constitution would also be invalid.
You want to have it both ways but precedent doesn’t work that way. A point made by more than 1 thoughtful Republican: Susan Collins, Thom Thilis, Tom Sullivan.
The person missing the yes or no question is you not me....
It is not overriding the Constitution. Trump will get that money from a department that's already been funded by the US Congress and passed by the Senate.
Money is allotted for specific uses. You can't spend it for something it wasn't approved for. That would be misappropriation of funds.
Her (and the Democrats) interest is making whites a minority in this country as soon as possible. That's their goal. The Democrat party is now the anti-white party, and they make no bones about it.
Paranoid much?
Stupid much?
You think I, being an old white guy, am anti me? One of us is stupid, but it's not me.
That's the beauty of their plan. You don't know they're out to get rid of us. Instead, they tell us of the heartbreak stories of illegals, immigrants, especially those form S/C America. They tell us it's empathy that drives them. What drives them is power and money.
Every other group outside of whites votes a majority Democrat. We are in the way. We need to be eliminated; not in a genocidal way, but in a political way. The intent is not hating whites, but to form a single-party government for the rest of our days as a country.
Once we are out of the picture, they have unchallenged power. A Republican stands no chance against them. That will be the beginning of the end of the Great Experiment. We will quickly become Socialist, and Communism right behind it.
Yes, the crazy right wing needs to be eliminated. Not because of their skin color, but because they are crazy, hateful, and mean.
Makes you wonder if she hasn't joined the Trump 2020 campaign. Nancy just made the point that democrats really do plan to go for the guns.Just when you think that Peloski couldn't possibly say something any more absurd and idiotic.....
My Party? I’m not registered Democrat. You know the comment about assuming....
I've never seen you before, so all I can go by is what I read. If it walks like a duck.....quacks like a duck......
Then apparently Republican Senators like Collins and Thillis must be Democrat’s also because my points are the same as theirs.
Perhaps you should get your news from something other than Hannity talk radio.
Lord. Who cares what Pubs think? How are they ANY different than Dems? They aren't you dumbass, there are NOT two party's. Lord you are an idiot.
The two party illusion is one of DC's most potent weapons. Anyone watching what just happened observed McConnell work with the Dems to sink the wall negotiations and pretend they just couldn't do any more.
It's a crock. They are all on the Cartel payroll.
Jo
While I'm no McConnell fan, what did he have to do with it? The only way to ovrrule by a simple majority was to change the rules, and that could haunt us down the road if leadership changes hands.
