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1. The thread title portends an ideological attack. You don't start an intelligent discussion by calling people wackos. Seems I recall a rule for zone 2 expressly noting thread titles as a reason to move threads form zone 2 forums.
Zone 2 Posting Rules
2. The left has been calling their opposition evil and accusing them of killing people for decades. It was one of the principle tactics in Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. The very principles your dear leader ascribed to and taught.
So pot, meet kettle.
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1. It's an attack, if you want to feel like a victim. If you decide that you are personally part of the "right wing wackos" the OP is talking about, then you can feel hurt by it, and use that as a way to avoid the topic.
The topic, on the other hand, is legitimate.
2. If you like, you are welcome to provide examples to support your argument that "The left" has been doing this for decades. But that isn't really the point, is it?
BERNIE SANDERS, DEMOCRATS: REPUBLICAN HEALTH CARE BILL WILL KILL PEOPLE
Bernie Sanders, Democrats claim 'people will die' under Republican health care bill
Nancy Pelosi Gave Us Obamacare And Suggests Republican Healthcare Plan Will Kill People
Nancy Pelosi Gave Us Obamacare And Suggests Republican Healthcare Plan Will Kill People
I could go on and on.
You're not understanding what I'm asking for.
Bernie Sanders isn't claiming that the United States as we know it will end if the Republicans pass a bill.
The US has already changed as we knew it, the courts are now rewriting legislation and determining foreign policy. They have no constitutional authority to do either and those are only two of the most recent examples of how our Constitution has been rewritten by the judiciary, mostly at the urging of the commiecrats. Where are the checks an balances on a runaway court when they are supported by a major political party? Impeachment is basically moot when the lawlessness is supported by politicians that are charged by the Constitution to prevent it. We are indeed living in a post constitutional America, and millions don't like it. You can grin and giggle that you got your way, but at what costs?
Now the pendulum is swinging the other way and you folks are hatching one conspiracy theory after another trying to undermine a duly elected president. Maybe it's time your side does a bit of self reflection and accept the fact the country decided to go in a different direction. Just remember when you point at us, you have four more pointing at you.
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"Change" and "End" are not synonyms.
America has been changing constantly, from day one.
It's a one way trip down the road to socialism. There is no reversing it. Once you put a bunch of parasites on the government tit, it's almost impossible to remove them. Once you admit Muzzie savages into your country, you can never send them back to where they came from.
That's what they said about Catholics, the Italians, the Irish - and my ancestors.
And probably yours, too.
They were legal
.
There was no such thing as an "illegal immigrant" when they came here.
Seriously?
Then who did FDR turn away on the st Louis ?
And these..
Ellis Island was the principal federal immigration station in the United States from 1892 to 1954. More than 12 million immigrantswere processed here. ... Even though only 2 percent of those coming to America were turned away at Ellis Island, that translated to over 250,000 people whose hopes and dreams turnedto tears .
Ellis Island
..
FDR turned the St. Louis away because of people like you.
How is the topic legitimate? It's more silly nonsence that the government is on the up and up...and any detractors are silly conspiracy...
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So you didn't read the article either.
I did like I said twice, again all I see is an OP Ed who is hurt that someone might upset the apple cart...and writes he has no idea why someone shot up a ball park..
We see the hodgkinsons disease all the time on these boards..
James T. Hodgkinson: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
Hodgkinson shared a post from “Republicans Suck,” saying, “Republicans Hate Women, Minorities, Working Class People, & Most All (99%) of the People of the Country.”
He also wrote, “Trump is Guilty & Should Go to Prison for Treason” and “Trump is a Mean, Disgusting Person.”
June 2015 he wrote, “The Opposite of a Liberal Progressive is a Bigoted Racist that wants the Rich to get Richer at the expense of the 99%…..Republicans are so Stupid….”
He wrote in May 2015, “Congressional Republicans Hate Americans & Should All be Voted Out of Office……..”
He wrote, “Republican Bitch Wants People to Work for Slave Wages, when a Livable Wage is the Only Way to Go! Vote Blue, It’s Right for You
.
If you did read it (which I don't believe, since you've refused to actually discuss any of it's contents), you missed the point.
You want to feel like a victim, so you see the article as an attack on you, personally - instead of understanding that the point of the article is that framing every issue as life-or-death, and a war between good and evil is problematic, whether it's on the left or the right.
The man who shot Scalise echoed the rhetoric of Alex Jones and the like, from the other side - and that's the problem, the rhetoric. The ideological mindset that everything is an all-or-nothing war rather than a difference of opinion.
What is this profound point you imagine we missed? Are you actually trying to blame the Scalise shooting on right wingers?
Who says everything is all-or-nothing if not the left? Remember when they said pulling out of the Paris agreement meant the end of the world?
You seem to have some serious reading comprehension issues.
Why are you trying so hard to make this a partisan issue?
That's what they said about Catholics, the Italians, the Irish - and my ancestors.
And probably yours, too.
They were legal
.
There was no such thing as an "illegal immigrant" when they came here.
Seriously?
Then who did FDR turn away on the st Louis ?
And these..
Ellis Island was the principal federal immigration station in the United States from 1892 to 1954. More than 12 million immigrantswere processed here. ... Even though only 2 percent of those coming to America were turned away at Ellis Island, that translated to over 250,000 people whose hopes and dreams turnedto tears .
Ellis Island
..
FDR turned the St. Louis away because of people like you.
Woa come again, people like me a Roman Catholic who defends isreal and the Jews?
Your painting yourself in a corner here..
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He didn't think he would get called out on it
So you didn't read the article either.
I did like I said twice, again all I see is an OP Ed who is hurt that someone might upset the apple cart...and writes he has no idea why someone shot up a ball park..
We see the hodgkinsons disease all the time on these boards..
James T. Hodgkinson: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
Hodgkinson shared a post from “Republicans Suck,” saying, “Republicans Hate Women, Minorities, Working Class People, & Most All (99%) of the People of the Country.”
He also wrote, “Trump is Guilty & Should Go to Prison for Treason” and “Trump is a Mean, Disgusting Person.”
June 2015 he wrote, “The Opposite of a Liberal Progressive is a Bigoted Racist that wants the Rich to get Richer at the expense of the 99%…..Republicans are so Stupid….”
He wrote in May 2015, “Congressional Republicans Hate Americans & Should All be Voted Out of Office……..”
He wrote, “Republican Bitch Wants People to Work for Slave Wages, when a Livable Wage is the Only Way to Go! Vote Blue, It’s Right for You
.
If you did read it (which I don't believe, since you've refused to actually discuss any of it's contents), you missed the point.
You want to feel like a victim, so you see the article as an attack on you, personally - instead of understanding that the point of the article is that framing every issue as life-or-death, and a war between good and evil is problematic, whether it's on the left or the right.
The man who shot Scalise echoed the rhetoric of Alex Jones and the like, from the other side - and that's the problem, the rhetoric. The ideological mindset that everything is an all-or-nothing war rather than a difference of opinion.
What is this profound point you imagine we missed? Are you actually trying to blame the Scalise shooting on right wingers?
Who says everything is all-or-nothing if not the left? Remember when they said pulling out of the Paris agreement meant the end of the world?
You seem to have some serious reading comprehension issues.
Why are you trying so hard to make this a partisan issue?
The OP made it a partisan issue.
.
So you didn't read the article either.
I did like I said twice, again all I see is an OP Ed who is hurt that someone might upset the apple cart...and writes he has no idea why someone shot up a ball park..
We see the hodgkinsons disease all the time on these boards..
James T. Hodgkinson: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
Hodgkinson shared a post from “Republicans Suck,” saying, “Republicans Hate Women, Minorities, Working Class People, & Most All (99%) of the People of the Country.”
He also wrote, “Trump is Guilty & Should Go to Prison for Treason” and “Trump is a Mean, Disgusting Person.”
June 2015 he wrote, “The Opposite of a Liberal Progressive is a Bigoted Racist that wants the Rich to get Richer at the expense of the 99%…..Republicans are so Stupid….”
He wrote in May 2015, “Congressional Republicans Hate Americans & Should All be Voted Out of Office……..”
He wrote, “Republican Bitch Wants People to Work for Slave Wages, when a Livable Wage is the Only Way to Go! Vote Blue, It’s Right for You
.
If you did read it (which I don't believe, since you've refused to actually discuss any of it's contents), you missed the point.
You want to feel like a victim, so you see the article as an attack on you, personally - instead of understanding that the point of the article is that framing every issue as life-or-death, and a war between good and evil is problematic, whether it's on the left or the right.
The man who shot Scalise echoed the rhetoric of Alex Jones and the like, from the other side - and that's the problem, the rhetoric. The ideological mindset that everything is an all-or-nothing war rather than a difference of opinion.
What is this profound point you imagine we missed? Are you actually trying to blame the Scalise shooting on right wingers?
Who says everything is all-or-nothing if not the left? Remember when they said pulling out of the Paris agreement meant the end of the world?
You seem to have some serious reading comprehension issues.
Why are you trying so hard to make this a partisan issue?
The OP made it a partisan issue.
.
They were legal
.
There was no such thing as an "illegal immigrant" when they came here.
Seriously?
Then who did FDR turn away on the st Louis ?
And these..
Ellis Island was the principal federal immigration station in the United States from 1892 to 1954. More than 12 million immigrantswere processed here. ... Even though only 2 percent of those coming to America were turned away at Ellis Island, that translated to over 250,000 people whose hopes and dreams turnedto tears .
Ellis Island
..
FDR turned the St. Louis away because of people like you.
Woa come again, people like me a Roman Catholic who defends isreal and the Jews?
Your painting yourself in a corner here..
.
You are aware that the loudest voices of anti-semitism in 1930s America were Catholics, right?
Charles Coughlin - Wikipedia
1. It's an attack, if you want to feel like a victim. If you decide that you are personally part of the "right wing wackos" the OP is talking about, then you can feel hurt by it, and use that as a way to avoid the topic.
The topic, on the other hand, is legitimate.
2. If you like, you are welcome to provide examples to support your argument that "The left" has been doing this for decades. But that isn't really the point, is it?
BERNIE SANDERS, DEMOCRATS: REPUBLICAN HEALTH CARE BILL WILL KILL PEOPLE
Bernie Sanders, Democrats claim 'people will die' under Republican health care bill
Nancy Pelosi Gave Us Obamacare And Suggests Republican Healthcare Plan Will Kill People
Nancy Pelosi Gave Us Obamacare And Suggests Republican Healthcare Plan Will Kill People
I could go on and on.
You're not understanding what I'm asking for.
Bernie Sanders isn't claiming that the United States as we know it will end if the Republicans pass a bill.
The US has already changed as we knew it, the courts are now rewriting legislation and determining foreign policy. They have no constitutional authority to do either and those are only two of the most recent examples of how our Constitution has been rewritten by the judiciary, mostly at the urging of the commiecrats. Where are the checks an balances on a runaway court when they are supported by a major political party? Impeachment is basically moot when the lawlessness is supported by politicians that are charged by the Constitution to prevent it. We are indeed living in a post constitutional America, and millions don't like it. You can grin and giggle that you got your way, but at what costs?
Now the pendulum is swinging the other way and you folks are hatching one conspiracy theory after another trying to undermine a duly elected president. Maybe it's time your side does a bit of self reflection and accept the fact the country decided to go in a different direction. Just remember when you point at us, you have four more pointing at you.
.
"Change" and "End" are not synonyms.
America has been changing constantly, from day one.
And not necessarily for the better. When the courts take it upon themselves to ignore black letter law and are supported by politicians we are no longer a nation of laws and disintegration of the republic is inevitable. The short cuts you condone will be the undoing of the country.
.
There was no such thing as an "illegal immigrant" when they came here.
Seriously?
Then who did FDR turn away on the st Louis ?
And these..
Ellis Island was the principal federal immigration station in the United States from 1892 to 1954. More than 12 million immigrantswere processed here. ... Even though only 2 percent of those coming to America were turned away at Ellis Island, that translated to over 250,000 people whose hopes and dreams turnedto tears .
Ellis Island
..
FDR turned the St. Louis away because of people like you.
Woa come again, people like me a Roman Catholic who defends isreal and the Jews?
Your painting yourself in a corner here..
.
You are aware that the loudest voices of anti-semitism in 1930s America were Catholics, right?
Charles Coughlin - Wikipedia
I don't live in 1930 do I ? And I know in the year 2017 people like you hate the Jews..
.
Seriously?
Then who did FDR turn away on the st Louis ?
And these..
Ellis Island was the principal federal immigration station in the United States from 1892 to 1954. More than 12 million immigrantswere processed here. ... Even though only 2 percent of those coming to America were turned away at Ellis Island, that translated to over 250,000 people whose hopes and dreams turnedto tears .
Ellis Island
..
FDR turned the St. Louis away because of people like you.
Woa come again, people like me a Roman Catholic who defends isreal and the Jews?
Your painting yourself in a corner here..
.
You are aware that the loudest voices of anti-semitism in 1930s America were Catholics, right?
Charles Coughlin - Wikipedia
I don't live in 1930 do I ? And I know in the year 2017 people like you hate the Jews..
.
I'm Jewish, fuckwit.
FDR turned the St. Louis away because of people like you.
Woa come again, people like me a Roman Catholic who defends isreal and the Jews?
Your painting yourself in a corner here..
.
You are aware that the loudest voices of anti-semitism in 1930s America were Catholics, right?
Charles Coughlin - Wikipedia
I don't live in 1930 do I ? And I know in the year 2017 people like you hate the Jews..
.
I'm Jewish, fuckwit.
Then why do you hate isreal?
.
I did like I said twice, again all I see is an OP Ed who is hurt that someone might upset the apple cart...and writes he has no idea why someone shot up a ball park..
We see the hodgkinsons disease all the time on these boards..
James T. Hodgkinson: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
Hodgkinson shared a post from “Republicans Suck,” saying, “Republicans Hate Women, Minorities, Working Class People, & Most All (99%) of the People of the Country.”
He also wrote, “Trump is Guilty & Should Go to Prison for Treason” and “Trump is a Mean, Disgusting Person.”
June 2015 he wrote, “The Opposite of a Liberal Progressive is a Bigoted Racist that wants the Rich to get Richer at the expense of the 99%…..Republicans are so Stupid….”
He wrote in May 2015, “Congressional Republicans Hate Americans & Should All be Voted Out of Office……..”
He wrote, “Republican Bitch Wants People to Work for Slave Wages, when a Livable Wage is the Only Way to Go! Vote Blue, It’s Right for You
.
If you did read it (which I don't believe, since you've refused to actually discuss any of it's contents), you missed the point.
You want to feel like a victim, so you see the article as an attack on you, personally - instead of understanding that the point of the article is that framing every issue as life-or-death, and a war between good and evil is problematic, whether it's on the left or the right.
The man who shot Scalise echoed the rhetoric of Alex Jones and the like, from the other side - and that's the problem, the rhetoric. The ideological mindset that everything is an all-or-nothing war rather than a difference of opinion.
What is this profound point you imagine we missed? Are you actually trying to blame the Scalise shooting on right wingers?
Who says everything is all-or-nothing if not the left? Remember when they said pulling out of the Paris agreement meant the end of the world?
You seem to have some serious reading comprehension issues.
Why are you trying so hard to make this a partisan issue?
The OP made it a partisan issue.
.
So what?
Are you unable to get past that?
Woa come again, people like me a Roman Catholic who defends isreal and the Jews?
Your painting yourself in a corner here..
.
You are aware that the loudest voices of anti-semitism in 1930s America were Catholics, right?
Charles Coughlin - Wikipedia
I don't live in 1930 do I ? And I know in the year 2017 people like you hate the Jews..
.
I'm Jewish, fuckwit.
Then why do you hate isreal?
.
I don't.
What does Israel have to do with anything we're talking about?
If you did read it (which I don't believe, since you've refused to actually discuss any of it's contents), you missed the point.
You want to feel like a victim, so you see the article as an attack on you, personally - instead of understanding that the point of the article is that framing every issue as life-or-death, and a war between good and evil is problematic, whether it's on the left or the right.
The man who shot Scalise echoed the rhetoric of Alex Jones and the like, from the other side - and that's the problem, the rhetoric. The ideological mindset that everything is an all-or-nothing war rather than a difference of opinion.
What is this profound point you imagine we missed? Are you actually trying to blame the Scalise shooting on right wingers?
Who says everything is all-or-nothing if not the left? Remember when they said pulling out of the Paris agreement meant the end of the world?
You seem to have some serious reading comprehension issues.
Why are you trying so hard to make this a partisan issue?
The OP made it a partisan issue.
.
So what?
Are you unable to get past that?
Yeah, when you accuse others of doing exactly what the OP did form the beginning, as if they're doing something wrong.
.
They might be ignoring the opinions in the op but you're ignoring the FACTS OF REALITY.
Looks like you did, too.
You are aware that the loudest voices of anti-semitism in 1930s America were Catholics, right?
Charles Coughlin - Wikipedia
I don't live in 1930 do I ? And I know in the year 2017 people like you hate the Jews..
.
I'm Jewish, fuckwit.
Then why do you hate isreal?
.
I don't.
What does Israel have to do with anything we're talking about?
But you on the left hates them and I will never get that....just an observation.
.
They might be ignoring the opinions in the op but you're ignoring the FACTS OF REALITY.
Looks like you did, too.
They were protestants. FDR was not a catholic. Woodrow Wilson was not a catholic.They were legal
.
There was no such thing as an "illegal immigrant" when they came here.
Seriously?
Then who did FDR turn away on the st Louis ?
And these..
Ellis Island was the principal federal immigration station in the United States from 1892 to 1954. More than 12 million immigrantswere processed here. ... Even though only 2 percent of those coming to America were turned away at Ellis Island, that translated to over 250,000 people whose hopes and dreams turnedto tears .
Ellis Island
..
FDR turned the St. Louis away because of people like you.
Woa come again, people like me a Roman Catholic who defends isreal and the Jews?
Your painting yourself in a corner here..
.
You are aware that the loudest voices of anti-semitism in 1930s America were Catholics, right?
Charles Coughlin - Wikipedia
BERNIE SANDERS, DEMOCRATS: REPUBLICAN HEALTH CARE BILL WILL KILL PEOPLE
Bernie Sanders, Democrats claim 'people will die' under Republican health care bill
Nancy Pelosi Gave Us Obamacare And Suggests Republican Healthcare Plan Will Kill People
Nancy Pelosi Gave Us Obamacare And Suggests Republican Healthcare Plan Will Kill People
I could go on and on.
You're not understanding what I'm asking for.
Bernie Sanders isn't claiming that the United States as we know it will end if the Republicans pass a bill.
The US has already changed as we knew it, the courts are now rewriting legislation and determining foreign policy. They have no constitutional authority to do either and those are only two of the most recent examples of how our Constitution has been rewritten by the judiciary, mostly at the urging of the commiecrats. Where are the checks an balances on a runaway court when they are supported by a major political party? Impeachment is basically moot when the lawlessness is supported by politicians that are charged by the Constitution to prevent it. We are indeed living in a post constitutional America, and millions don't like it. You can grin and giggle that you got your way, but at what costs?
Now the pendulum is swinging the other way and you folks are hatching one conspiracy theory after another trying to undermine a duly elected president. Maybe it's time your side does a bit of self reflection and accept the fact the country decided to go in a different direction. Just remember when you point at us, you have four more pointing at you.
.
"Change" and "End" are not synonyms.
America has been changing constantly, from day one.
And not necessarily for the better. When the courts take it upon themselves to ignore black letter law and are supported by politicians we are no longer a nation of laws and disintegration of the republic is inevitable. The short cuts you condone will be the undoing of the country.
.
Whether various changes are for "better" or "worse" will be determined by historians down the line.
Yet the changes still occurred. There's no going back.
What is this profound point you imagine we missed? Are you actually trying to blame the Scalise shooting on right wingers?
Who says everything is all-or-nothing if not the left? Remember when they said pulling out of the Paris agreement meant the end of the world?
You seem to have some serious reading comprehension issues.
Why are you trying so hard to make this a partisan issue?
The OP made it a partisan issue.
.
So what?
Are you unable to get past that?
Yeah, when you accuse others of doing exactly what the OP did form the beginning, as if they're doing something wrong.
.
You misunderstand.
I'm not trying to say that making it partisan is "wrong", I'm just trying my damnedest to actually discuss the article in the OP.
The article isn't partisan.
