POLL: How Bout An Official Gesture Of Atonement For Past Sins Against African Americans?...

[Papageorgio]

Yep, NAFTA sold us down the river. Clinton screwed the American worker.

By going along with the GOP WAYYYYYY too much...

Clinton campaigned on it, he backed it, he wanted and called it a historic event. He loved NAFTA, you are putting out BS, why the hell do you think Hillary is trying to distance herself from Bill on this issue?
You lie so much, you are like your beloved Hillary.

BS ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ George H. W. Booosh and the GOP wrote it and then refused to follow thru on training Clinton wanted. Much like W and Ted and no child left behind. Scumbag GOP every time. Dupe.

Nope, Clinton wanted it, the GOP helped pass it, however, Clinton signed a bill if he vetoed would have been dead. Sorry, I know honesty and responsibility are not your strong suits. But you bastards are as guilty as the GOP, you really need to take some responsibility.

FUND THE TRAINING, dupe. DUH.

Funny how your narrative switched, lol!

 

[Papageorgio]

Jeeebus what a dumb country...Thanks GOP. see sig. Nite.

Glad I block sig propaganda.

 

[francoHFW]

Horseshit. Why would I apologize for something I haven't done? "Collective acknowledgements" are horseshit propaganda. They mean nothing, and only provide a justification for demanding concessions, like reparations.

If there is no reconciliation, the wound will remain open. The problem won't go away.

By definition. Hang it up. And vote dem to help ALL the victims of the New BS GOP. see sig.

NO ONE IS FOR REPARATIONS, people. 99% GOP strwman.

Who are these "victims" of the GOP?

See sig. Everyone but the rich, statistically.

They are the victims of the Dims who bring in millions of cheap foreign workers every year from third world countries to take their jobs.

Stop blocking the immigration bill with a good SS ID card and end it. Totally duped...

 

[francoHFW]

By going along with the GOP WAYYYYYY too much...

Clinton campaigned on it, he backed it, he wanted and called it a historic event. He loved NAFTA, you are putting out BS, why the hell do you think Hillary is trying to distance herself from Bill on this issue?
You lie so much, you are like your beloved Hillary.

BS ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ George H. W. Booosh and the GOP wrote it and then refused to follow thru on training Clinton wanted. Much like W and Ted and no child left behind. Scumbag GOP every time. Dupe.

Nope, Clinton wanted it, the GOP helped pass it, however, Clinton signed a bill if he vetoed would have been dead. Sorry, I know honesty and responsibility are not your strong suits. But you bastards are as guilty as the GOP, you really need to take some responsibility.

FUND THE TRAINING, dupe. DUH.

Funny how your narrative switched, lol!

Always exactly the same duh.

 

[paulitician]

Not so 'worthless' to some. The Nation as a whole, still hasn't properly acknowledged and atoned for how African Americans and Native Americans have been treated. The wound is still bleeding.

Acknowledged what? That we were involved in a practice that nearly every nation has used at one time or another? Or that we drove tribal people who were unable or unwilling to leave, off their land? Show me a Great nation that never did so.

I have far greater sympathy for the acts of the US Government against the horses of the Plains tribes than I do for the Indians themselves..... Adapt, Defeat, or Die. Those are the only options that should be available to an invaded people.

Well that could be what the problem is. You don't have sympathy. We have to overcome our hate and fear. We have to take a bold step. Let's as a collective nation, show African Americans that we do care about their past and present plight. A kind gesture can go a very long way.

 

[francoHFW]

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

Both. LOL.Any argument with these facts?

 

[francoHFW]

By definition. Hang it up. And vote dem to help ALL the victims of the New BS GOP. see sig.

Why don't you change your "sig" to NOTHING IS THE DEMOCRATS FAULT, IT'S ALL BUSH AND REAGAN.

It would save you a hell of a lot of time and typing.

You got it. Duh. The New BS GOP is a disgrace and disaster. All they have is bs propaganda, for dupes only. Thanks for 9/11, the stupidest wars ever, a corrupt world depression, and 8 years of mindless obstruction. Any argument?

 

[francoHFW]

I thought Affirmative Action was atonement for slavery

It's atonement for GOP racism and discrimination duh.

 

[francoHFW]

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absolutely clueless. lol

Indeed....

We know where you stand...

Laughed out of polite society and academe, dupe. Communism is pure left (everything state owned), Nazism/fascism is pure right (corporations aristocrats, GOPers). That is RW crap for ignoramuses like you.

Wrong twit....nazis hated capitalism......the internet now allows even morons like you to see the truth.......

Communism, fascism and nazism are all different types of left wing socialism...moron...Conservatism and libertarianism are all right wing...twit....

Read something, shyttehead. The Nazis loved corps and their aristo owners, as long as they weren't jewish. See Messerschmitt, Heinkel, Porsche, Todt, Krupp, etc etc etc. Idiot.

I have moron....you need to look past left wing crap designed to hide the lies of socialism.....

Oh, the Nazis were socialists nonsense...so you believe ALL RW propaganda, even the Nazis'...

 

[bripat9643]

He or she was just pointing out that it's not about monetary reparations. Some are pushing that, but most aren't.

Then what is it about?.... Worthless words that have no meaning or value?

Not so 'worthless' to some. The Nation as a whole, still hasn't properly acknowledged and atoned for how African Americans and Native Americans have been treated. The wound is still bleeding.

There's no such thing as "properly acknowledged and atoned" because I haven't done anything, and neither have any of my ancestors. Just give it up, douche bag. The sentiment against your proposal is running at over 93%. What does that tell you?

 

[bripat9643]

I thought Affirmative Action was atonement for slavery

It's atonement for GOP racism and discrimination duh.

Yeah, that's exactly how it will be painted if it's ever passed, and that's why no Republican will ever vote for it.

 

[francoHFW]

View attachment 81123

absolutely clueless. lol

Indeed....

We know where you stand...

Laughed out of polite society and academe, dupe. Communism is pure left (everything state owned), Nazism/fascism is pure right (corporations aristocrats, GOPers). That is RW crap for ignoramuses like you.

Wrong twit....nazis hated capitalism......the internet now allows even morons like you to see the truth.......

Communism, fascism and nazism are all different types of left wing socialism...moron...Conservatism and libertarianism are all right wing...twit....

Read something, shyttehead. The Nazis loved corps and their aristo owners, as long as they weren't jewish. See Messerschmitt, Heinkel, Porsche, Todt, Krupp, etc etc etc. Idiot.

Here you go...learn something.....

Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian

11/11/2005George Reisman


My purpose today is to make just two main points: (1) To show why Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And (2) to show why socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.

The identification of Nazi Germany as a socialist state was one of the many great contributions of Ludwig von Mises.

When one remembers that the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party — Mises's identification might not appear all that noteworthy. For what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?

Nevertheless, apart from Mises and his readers, practically no one thinks of Nazi Germany as a socialist state. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed.

The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.

What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of thesubstantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.

De facto government ownership of the means of production, as Mises termed it, was logically implied by such fundamental collectivist principles embraced by the Nazis as that the common good comes before the private good and the individual exists as a means to the ends of the State. If the individual is a means to the ends of the State, so too, of course, is his property. Just as he is owned by the State, his property is also owned by the State.

Absolute crap.

 

[bripat9643]

He or she was just pointing out that it's not about monetary reparations. Some are pushing that, but most aren't.

Then what is it about?.... Worthless words that have no meaning or value?

Not so 'worthless' to some. The Nation as a whole, still hasn't properly acknowledged and atoned for how African Americans and Native Americans have been treated. The wound is still bleeding.

I'm sure it has great political value to leftwing douche bags like you. That's why it will never pass.

There is no "wound." There is only black dysfunction as a result of Democrat social programs like welfare.

 

[bripat9643]

If there is no reconciliation, the wound will remain open. The problem won't go away.

By definition. Hang it up. And vote dem to help ALL the victims of the New BS GOP. see sig.

NO ONE IS FOR REPARATIONS, people. 99% GOP strwman.

There it is, folks. Liberals look at anyone they can as a victim. They make victims where none exist in order to push an agenda.

Your sig line, much like you, is a worthless piece of shit.

He or she was just pointing out that it's not about monetary reparations. Some are pushing that, but most aren't.

I don't owe black people reparations or an apology. It doesn't matter whether it monetary or not. It's the premise behind what you support. You want those that didn't do things to apologize to that the didn't have those things done to them.

Collectively, as a nation. Not you personally. If we openly officially acknowledge what was done to African Americans and Native Americans, maybe they can forgive and move on.

In neither case.

 

[Conservative65]

By definition. Hang it up. And vote dem to help ALL the victims of the New BS GOP. see sig.

NO ONE IS FOR REPARATIONS, people. 99% GOP strwman.

There it is, folks. Liberals look at anyone they can as a victim. They make victims where none exist in order to push an agenda.

Your sig line, much like you, is a worthless piece of shit.

He or she was just pointing out that it's not about monetary reparations. Some are pushing that, but most aren't.

I don't owe black people reparations or an apology. It doesn't matter whether it monetary or not. It's the premise behind what you support. You want those that didn't do things to apologize to that the didn't have those things done to them.

Collectively, as a nation. Not you personally. If we openly officially acknowledge what was done to African Americans and Native Americans, maybe they can forgive and move on.

In neither case.

What Paul doesn't seem to get is that if I am part of a group that makes such a statement, there is no difference than had I done it myself.

 

[bripat9643]

Not so 'worthless' to some. The Nation as a whole, still hasn't properly acknowledged and atoned for how African Americans and Native Americans have been treated. The wound is still bleeding.

Acknowledged what? That we were involved in a practice that nearly every nation has used at one time or another? Or that we drove tribal people who were unable or unwilling to leave, off their land? Show me a Great nation that never did so.

I have far greater sympathy for the acts of the US Government against the horses of the Plains tribes than I do for the Indians themselves..... Adapt, Defeat, or Die. Those are the only options that should be available to an invaded people.

Well that could be what the problem is. You don't have sympathy. We have to overcome our hate and fear. We have to take a bold step. Let's as a collective nation, show African Americans that we do care about their past and present plight. A kind gesture can go a very long way.

Making "kind gestures" isn't the function of government. That's pure propaganda. As such, government shouldn't be involved in it.

 

[paulitician]

He or she was just pointing out that it's not about monetary reparations. Some are pushing that, but most aren't.

Then what is it about?.... Worthless words that have no meaning or value?

Not so 'worthless' to some. The Nation as a whole, still hasn't properly acknowledged and atoned for how African Americans and Native Americans have been treated. The wound is still bleeding.

I'm sure it has great political value to leftwing douche bags like you. That's why it will never pass.

There is no "wound." There is only black dysfunction as a result of Democrat social programs like welfare.

You're just being stubbornly defensive. You have to rise above that.

 

[bripat9643]

There it is, folks. Liberals look at anyone they can as a victim. They make victims where none exist in order to push an agenda.

Your sig line, much like you, is a worthless piece of shit.

He or she was just pointing out that it's not about monetary reparations. Some are pushing that, but most aren't.

I don't owe black people reparations or an apology. It doesn't matter whether it monetary or not. It's the premise behind what you support. You want those that didn't do things to apologize to that the didn't have those things done to them.

Collectively, as a nation. Not you personally. If we openly officially acknowledge what was done to African Americans and Native Americans, maybe they can forgive and move on.

In neither case.

What Paul doesn't seem to get is that if I am part of a group that makes such a statement, there is no difference than had I done it myself.

He does get it, but he's ignoring that fact. That's what makes him a douche bag, like every other leftist.

 

[francoHFW]

Jeeebus what a dumb country...Thanks GOP. see sig. Nite.

Glad I block sig propaganda.

The USA is the only modern country in the world where full time workers live in poverty and have no health care (750k bankruptcies a year, most HAVE insurance - crap insurance!)After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?
Pubs have blocked EVERYTHING since 2/4/2010- don't be duped...again. Stimulus worked-ran out in 2010.
Total Pub Propaganda BS: ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.
I'm sorry- dupes are lovely people- but I can't take their lazy, ignorant, careless, stupid politics a minute longer. Sorry

I thought Affirmative Action was atonement for slavery

It's atonement for GOP racism and discrimination duh.

Yeah, that's exactly how it will be painted if it's ever passed, and that's why no Republican will ever vote for it.

It's already passed and approved by the SC...

 

[paulitician]

He or she was just pointing out that it's not about monetary reparations. Some are pushing that, but most aren't.

I don't owe black people reparations or an apology. It doesn't matter whether it monetary or not. It's the premise behind what you support. You want those that didn't do things to apologize to that the didn't have those things done to them.

Collectively, as a nation. Not you personally. If we openly officially acknowledge what was done to African Americans and Native Americans, maybe they can forgive and move on.

In neither case.

What Paul doesn't seem to get is that if I am part of a group that makes such a statement, there is no difference than had I done it myself.

He does get it, but he's ignoring that fact. That's what makes him a douche bag, like every other leftist.

Gotta let go of the hate man. We need reconciliation, not hate.