Progressives seek to establish pedophilia as a sexual orientation.

[tinydancer]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...ill-be-removed-from-the-politics-section.html

Let me get this straight, a post about pedophilia is off topic in a thread about pedophilia. What am I missing?

The only reason why this thread remains in the Politics Forum is because she threw the word Progressive in the OP.

Otherwise this thread would have been removed to the Dumbest Threads Ever Started Forum.

For her to insist Progressives advocate the promotion of pedophilia indicates koshergrl is one twisted soul.

I've put up posts proving that this is a political issue. You should read thru the thread.

 

[koshergrl]

No, it's here because it's sourced and it has legal implications, thanks to the progressive insistence that depraved sexuality be recognized as having the same social standing as marriage.

 

[edthecynic]

Here's the thing...if we maintain that sexual orientation is something people are BORN with...then it appears that everything we know about pedophilia (that it is CAUSED by child sexual abuse....which it is) needs to be thrown out the window in order to accomodate the homo community.

"Not all pedophiles molest children. Nor are all child molesters pedophiles. Studies show that about half of all molesters are not sexually attracted to their victims. They often have personality disorders or violent streaks, and their victims are typically family members.
By contrast, pedophiles tend to think of children as romantic partners and look beyond immediate relatives. They include chronic abusers familiar from the headlines — Catholic priests, coaches and generations of Boy Scout leaders.

Other pedophiles are "good people who are struggling," said Dr. Fred Berlin, a psychiatrist who heads the Johns Hopkins Sexual Behaviors Consultation Unit.
"

Many experts now view pedophilia as a sexual orientation [Google+ hangout] - latimes.com

Since CON$ always say just how stupid Progressives are, why wouldn't these "experts" be Reagan CON$ervatives???

How's a medical article from Harvard? Would that be good enough?

Is that expert enough? My Canadian professionals testifying before Parliament wasn't good enough?

From this article entitled:

Pessimism about pedophilia

JUL 2010

Please note:

Key points

Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change. Treatment aims to enable someone to resist acting on his sexual urges.

No intervention is likely to work on its own; outcomes may be better when the patient is motivated and treatment combines psychotherapy and medication.

Parents should be aware that in most sexual abuse cases involving children, the perpetrator is someone the child knows.


And here are the references so you understand who the professionals involved are:

Blanchard R. "The DSM Diagnostic Criteria for Pedophilia," Archives of Sexual Behavior (April 2010): Vol. 39, No. 2, pp. 304–16.

Hall RC. "A Profile of Pedophilia: Definition, Characteristics of Offenders, Recidivism, Treatment Outcomes, and Forensic Issues," Mayo Clinic Proceedings (April 2007): Vol. 82, No. 4, pp. 457–71.

Seto MC. "Pedophilia," Annual Review of Clinical Psychology (2009): Vol. 5, pp. 391–407.

For more references, please see Harvard Mental Health Letter - Harvard Health Publications.

Pessimism About Pedophilia - Harvard Health Publications

Thank you for confirming that pedophilia is a CON$ervative characteristic. There is nothing on Earth as rigid and unchanging as a CON$ervative. The very essence of Progressivism is change.

 

[jknowgood]

Now that the bigots have lost the same sex marriage debate on this forum, they apparently have decided to invent some imaginary debate that they think they can win.

Congratulations. You win. The government has a compelling interest in using the law against those whose sexual orientation involves minors.

Yeah you won the debate, lol. Remember abortion was illegal until liberals twisted things around and came up with the fetus bull crap. In britain a liberal nation is already trying to legitamize pedophilia. With the liberals in america today more worried about social issues, than the real issues like the economy, I can see them sickly trying to make pedophilia normal.

 

[tinydancer]

I will ask again...historically has the age of consent gone up or down in state after state?

Well when we legalize pedophilia, the age of consent will be thrown in the dust bin. No need for it.

There are many advocates for allowing adult/child sexual relations. Including academics and some physicians.

So would legalization be the next step after recognizing pedophilia as a "sexual orientation"?

Who knows?

Some academics do not dispute the view of Tom O'Carroll, a former chairman of PIE and tireless paedophilia advocate with a conviction for distributing indecent photographs of children following a sting operation, that society's outrage at paedophilic relationships is essentially emotional, irrational, and not justified by science.

"It is the quality of the relationship that matters," O'Carroll insists.

"If there's no bullying, no coercion, no abuse of power, if the child enters into the relationship voluntarily … the evidence shows there need be no harm."

Paedophilia: bringing dark desires to light | Society | The Guardian

 

[tinydancer]

Since CON$ always say just how stupid Progressives are, why wouldn't these "experts" be Reagan CON$ervatives???

How's a medical article from Harvard? Would that be good enough?

Is that expert enough? My Canadian professionals testifying before Parliament wasn't good enough?

From this article entitled:

Pessimism about pedophilia

JUL 2010

Please note:

Key points

Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change. Treatment aims to enable someone to resist acting on his sexual urges.

No intervention is likely to work on its own; outcomes may be better when the patient is motivated and treatment combines psychotherapy and medication.

Parents should be aware that in most sexual abuse cases involving children, the perpetrator is someone the child knows.


And here are the references so you understand who the professionals involved are:

Blanchard R. "The DSM Diagnostic Criteria for Pedophilia," Archives of Sexual Behavior (April 2010): Vol. 39, No. 2, pp. 304–16.

Hall RC. "A Profile of Pedophilia: Definition, Characteristics of Offenders, Recidivism, Treatment Outcomes, and Forensic Issues," Mayo Clinic Proceedings (April 2007): Vol. 82, No. 4, pp. 457–71.

Seto MC. "Pedophilia," Annual Review of Clinical Psychology (2009): Vol. 5, pp. 391–407.

For more references, please see Harvard Mental Health Letter - Harvard Health Publications.

Pessimism About Pedophilia - Harvard Health Publications

Thank you for confirming that pedophilia is a CON$ervative characteristic. There is nothing on Earth as rigid and unchanging as a CON$ervative. The very essence of Progressivism is change.

Stop trolling.

I gave you experts' opinions in two posts. One Canadian source. One American source.

 

[koshergrl]

Now that the bigots have lost the same sex marriage debate on this forum, they apparently have decided to invent some imaginary debate that they think they can win.

Congratulations. You win. The government has a compelling interest in using the law against those whose sexual orientation involves minors.

Yeah you won the debate, lol. Remember abortion was illegal until liberals twisted things around and came up with the fetus bull crap. In britain a liberal nation is already trying to legitamize pedophilia. With the liberals in america today more worried about social issues, than the real issues like the economy, I can see them sickly trying to make pedophilia normal.

You see it already when you come up against their insistence that sex ed belongs in the classroom, and per their insistence that child sex is natural, normal, and the schools and PP are perfectly justified in keeping such information from children's parents, and helping children to hide their sexual activities from their parents.

First they teach them that all sorts of sex is okay...then they teach them how best to hide it from their parents. Now they're maintaining that pedophilia is hard wired..... Do you see a trend here?

 

[sfcalifornia]

How's a medical article from Harvard? Would that be good enough?

Is that expert enough? My Canadian professionals testifying before Parliament wasn't good enough?

From this article entitled:

Pessimism about pedophilia

JUL 2010

Please note:

Key points

Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change. Treatment aims to enable someone to resist acting on his sexual urges.

No intervention is likely to work on its own; outcomes may be better when the patient is motivated and treatment combines psychotherapy and medication.

Parents should be aware that in most sexual abuse cases involving children, the perpetrator is someone the child knows.


And here are the references so you understand who the professionals involved are:

Blanchard R. "The DSM Diagnostic Criteria for Pedophilia," Archives of Sexual Behavior (April 2010): Vol. 39, No. 2, pp. 304–16.

Hall RC. "A Profile of Pedophilia: Definition, Characteristics of Offenders, Recidivism, Treatment Outcomes, and Forensic Issues," Mayo Clinic Proceedings (April 2007): Vol. 82, No. 4, pp. 457–71.

Seto MC. "Pedophilia," Annual Review of Clinical Psychology (2009): Vol. 5, pp. 391–407.

For more references, please see Harvard Mental Health Letter - Harvard Health Publications.

Pessimism About Pedophilia - Harvard Health Publications

Thank you for confirming that pedophilia is a CON$ervative characteristic. There is nothing on Earth as rigid and unchanging as a CON$ervative. The very essence of Progressivism is change.

Stop trolling.

I gave you experts' opinions in two posts. One Canadian source. One American source.

You've shown studies but you've shown no proof whatsoever that pedophilia is partisan.

If you people insist on that stupid claim, munch on this stupidity:

If progressive are the ones promoting pedophilia, conservatives are the ones practicing it the most.

There. How's that for stupid?

 

[koshergrl]

Nobody said pedophilia was partisan, hack.

 

[tinydancer]

Thank you for confirming that pedophilia is a CON$ervative characteristic. There is nothing on Earth as rigid and unchanging as a CON$ervative. The very essence of Progressivism is change.

Stop trolling.

I gave you experts' opinions in two posts. One Canadian source. One American source.

You've shown studies but you've shown no proof whatsoever that pedophilia is partisan.

If you people insist on that stupid claim, munch on this stupidity:

If progressive are the ones promoting pedophilia, conservatives are the ones practicing it the most.

There. How's that for stupid?

I didn't write the OP. I personally never claimed it was politically skewed.

I was simply proving the existence of the movement towards granting pedophilia the status of "sexual orientation".

I didn't think my avatar looked like Kosher Girl's at all. How could you possibly mix us up?

 

[koshergrl]

But progressive politics are certainly friendly to pedophiles.

 

[theHawk]

Here's the thing...if we maintain that sexual orientation is something people are BORN with...then it appears that everything we know about pedophilia (that it is CAUSED by child sexual abuse....which it is) needs to be thrown out the window in order to accomodate the homo community.

"Not all pedophiles molest children. Nor are all child molesters pedophiles. Studies show that about half of all molesters are not sexually attracted to their victims. They often have personality disorders or violent streaks, and their victims are typically family members.
By contrast, pedophiles tend to think of children as romantic partners and look beyond immediate relatives. They include chronic abusers familiar from the headlines — Catholic priests, coaches and generations of Boy Scout leaders.

Other pedophiles are "good people who are struggling," said Dr. Fred Berlin, a psychiatrist who heads the Johns Hopkins Sexual Behaviors Consultation Unit.
"

Many experts now view pedophilia as a sexual orientation [Google+ hangout] - latimes.com

You truly are an idiot of epic proportions. To equate homosexuality in any way to pedophilia just shows how absolutely ignorant you are. Here is the simple fact about homosexuality; homosexual acts happen between consenting adults. Now here is the simple fact about pedophilia; acts of pedophilia take place between an adult and a non-consenting minor who is in fact being raped.

It amazes me that you are incapable of differentiating between the two, because it really is very simple.

The vast majority of homosexuals were "recruited" when they themselves were children.

Homos are also ten times more likely to commit child molestation.

So pedophila and homosexuality are closely linked.

 

[tinydancer]

Nobody said pedophilia was partisan, hack.

Thank you. I understood your OP to clearly state that you believed Progressives were pushing the agenda to make pedophilia a true category of "sexual orientation".

 

[koshergrl]

Oh lord they're going to come out of the bushes at that.

They're highly motivated to deny it, though it is true of course.

 

[koshergrl]

Nobody said pedophilia was partisan, hack.

Thank you. I understood your OP to clearly state that you believed Progressives were pushing the agenda to make pedophilia a true category of "sexual orientation".

Yupper.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Here's the thing...if we maintain that sexual orientation is something people are BORN with...then it appears that everything we know about pedophilia (that it is CAUSED by child sexual abuse....which it is) needs to be thrown out the window in order to accomodate the homo community.

"Not all pedophiles molest children. Nor are all child molesters pedophiles. Studies show that about half of all molesters are not sexually attracted to their victims. They often have personality disorders or violent streaks, and their victims are typically family members.
By contrast, pedophiles tend to think of children as romantic partners and look beyond immediate relatives. They include chronic abusers familiar from the headlines — Catholic priests, coaches and generations of Boy Scout leaders.

Other pedophiles are "good people who are struggling," said Dr. Fred Berlin, a psychiatrist who heads the Johns Hopkins Sexual Behaviors Consultation Unit.
"

Many experts now view pedophilia as a sexual orientation [Google+ hangout] - latimes.com

WTF is wrong with you? You really know how to take something and twist the shit out of it, don't you?

This is the premise of a very short article: Pedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life, but now, many experts view it as a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change.

And so you drag progressive politics into it and infer that it's condoned? Again, WTF is wrong with YOU?

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Nobody said pedophilia was partisan, hack.

Thank you. I understood your OP to clearly state that you believed Progressives were pushing the agenda to make pedophilia a true category of "sexual orientation".

That's exactly what this poor delusional idiot is doing.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Nobody said pedophilia was partisan, hack.

Thank you. I understood your OP to clearly state that you believed Progressives were pushing the agenda to make pedophilia a true category of "sexual orientation".

Yupper.

Oh, and add this to your fly-infested hysteria....Jesus died for your sins.

 

[tinydancer]

Nobody said pedophilia was partisan, hack.

Thank you. I understood your OP to clearly state that you believed Progressives were pushing the agenda to make pedophilia a true category of "sexual orientation".

Yupper.

Well for true I can't name one conservative promoting the idea. I swear I'd stroke right out if I heard Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin or Beck promoting this idea.

It would be the "big one" taking me out right in front of the radio. There would be no time to call 911.

I'd be down for the count. It would be "goodbye earth, hello pearly gates" in a freaking split second.



Articles like this one written by a person who calls themselves a progressive in the article validates this belief that progressives seem to be really moving in this direction. From Gawker.

Born This Way: Sympathy and Science for Those Who Want to Have Sex with Children
Cord Jefferson

Born This Way: Sympathy and Science for Those Who Want to Have Sex with Children

 

[Wicked Jester]

Here's the thing...if we maintain that sexual orientation is something people are BORN with...then it appears that everything we know about pedophilia (that it is CAUSED by child sexual abuse....which it is) needs to be thrown out the window in order to accomodate the homo community.

"Not all pedophiles molest children. Nor are all child molesters pedophiles. Studies show that about half of all molesters are not sexually attracted to their victims. They often have personality disorders or violent streaks, and their victims are typically family members.
By contrast, pedophiles tend to think of children as romantic partners and look beyond immediate relatives. They include chronic abusers familiar from the headlines — Catholic priests, coaches and generations of Boy Scout leaders.

Other pedophiles are "good people who are struggling," said Dr. Fred Berlin, a psychiatrist who heads the Johns Hopkins Sexual Behaviors Consultation Unit.
"

Many experts now view pedophilia as a sexual orientation [Google+ hangout] - latimes.com

You truly are an idiot of epic proportions. To equate homosexuality in any way to pedophilia just shows how absolutely ignorant you are. Here is the simple fact about homosexuality; homosexual acts happen between consenting adults. Now here is the simple fact about pedophilia; acts of pedophilia take place between an adult and a non-consenting minor who is in fact being raped.

It amazes me that you are incapable of differentiating between the two, because it really is very simple.

The vast majority of homosexuals were "recruited" when they themselves were children.

Homos are also ten times more likely to commit child molestation.

So pedophila and homosexuality are closely linked.

Closely linked by the fact that both are perversion at its very core.

The only difference being, one is accepted in the eyes of the law, while the other is not.