Votto
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From my vantage point, the difference between Hitler and Stalin was, Hitler was simply smarter than Stalin, in that Hitler understood that bureaucrats can't even run government right, so how can they add to the list industry to run? Hitler allowed the experts to run industry, so long as he could control them, which he did 100%. As Hitler would say, "Why nationalize industry when you can nationalize the people?" And Stalin was a little smarter than Hitler in that he did not spend time and money targeting races of people. At the end of the day though, they both deserved each other.his makes Stalin better? LOL.
The Allies declared war on Hitler why again? Because he invaded Poland. Well guess who else invaded Poland? Anyone? You guessed it, Stalin. Hitler agreed with Stalin to divide the country, so why only declare war on Hitler again? It was because they hoped at some point Hitler would turn on Stalin, which he did.
Or they recognized that declaring war on the USSR would force them to join the Axis, and then the allies would be screwed.
The problem was in the early stages of WWII, the Allies were hoping it would be like World War I, they'd bog down the Germans on the Western Front until their economy collapsed. Of course, the main reason why it didn't was because until Hitler invaded the USSR, they were continuing to trade with Stalin and meat many of their resource needs.
So the reasons why Stalin is put in so much better a light is:
1. He later joined the Allies to defeat Hitler
2. He was on the winning side.
3. He got to help write the history books
4. Marxism had become mainstream in the world.
Actually, here's the reality. In World War II, Stalin and the USSR did most of the heavy lifting. But this offends our sensibilities that the only reason why Capitalism didn't fall to Fascism was because the Communists saved it. We just looked in horror as we found that the Communists were in a better position after the war and had more street cred than the failing Capitalist Empires that let Hitler and the Japanese run amok to start with.
But the dirty little secret is, Marxism has murdered far more people in the world than Nazism, simply because it is embraced around the world, like how BLM today embraces it. Conversely, Nazism is seen as evil for obvious reasons, but the main was is it lost WW2.
The problem is, the only way you guys get to the "Marxism murdered millions" numbers is if you include every famine and war in the numbers. So you guys will bitch about the Ukraine famine, which was a case of criminal incompetence, but you won't talk about the Bengal famine of 1942, which killed millions as well.
When Churchill heard about the Bengal Famine, he joked, "Has Gandhi starved yet?" Yup. In Churchill's worldview, Gandhi was as bad as Hitler as a threat to British supremacy.
The simple reality is, the state has murdered more people than any other institution in human history. It's not even close. And the religious wars that are blamed on religion were conducted by the state as well. This is something that those who idolize the state and look to the state for all moral direction don't understand. What you don't understand is the corrupt nature of man, and the inevitable outcome if given power. This is why at every turn you look to empower the state further, whether it be with taxes or censoring free speech like you are doing now, etc. The scary part is, no amount of evidence can smack you upside the head to accept this. You really believe that those in government, that is in your Stalinist party, are good at heart with good intentions and thus just need more power to "get things done" and you will have your utopia.