Putin v. Hitler. do you agree that these 2 tyrants are very similar in many ways ?

[Litwin]

""Putlerist"? Alinsky would be proud. It's easier to pin labels on people than engage in a legitimate argument." do you agree that you always support putler and his gang ?

 

[ESay]

Unfortunately, the friendship between Russia and Germany ends bad for neighboring countries.

So? And when Poland took parts of Czechia in 1938, it was perfectly fine.
However, we don´t have a Hitler and they don´t have a Stalin.

It is not only about Hitler and Stalin. Remember about the partitions of Poland in the late 18th century.

There were a lot of changes in history.

Agreed. But it is quite understandable that Eastern European countries are afraid of possible new 'Alliance of the Three Black Eagles'. And I can't imagine how the EU can unite with Russia while these countries are in the Union.

Why should I care? We have our own interests and we want a reliable resource supply. Those eastern countries cannot get around the fact that Russia is big and has its natural sphere of influence.
Putin: Russia will join the euro one day

You shouldn't care. Your country pursues its interests and that's understandable. But sometimes these interests contradict the interests of other countries. And that's understandable that other countries try to thwart undesirable developments.

 

[Bleipriester]

So? And when Poland took parts of Czechia in 1938, it was perfectly fine.
However, we don´t have a Hitler and they don´t have a Stalin.

It is not only about Hitler and Stalin. Remember about the partitions of Poland in the late 18th century.

There were a lot of changes in history.

Agreed. But it is quite understandable that Eastern European countries are afraid of possible new 'Alliance of the Three Black Eagles'. And I can't imagine how the EU can unite with Russia while these countries are in the Union.

Why should I care? We have our own interests and we want a reliable resource supply. Those eastern countries cannot get around the fact that Russia is big and has its natural sphere of influence.
Putin: Russia will join the euro one day

You shouldn't care. Your country pursues its interests and that's understandable. But sometimes these interests contradict the interests of other countries. And that's understandable that other countries try to thwart undesirable developments.

How do the Northstream pipelines hurt them? Do they have a right to assert control over Russian-German business? They are all just crying because Russia has denied them brotherly soviet special tariffs. They should ask Washington for discount, don´t they?

 

[ESay]

It is not only about Hitler and Stalin. Remember about the partitions of Poland in the late 18th century.

There were a lot of changes in history.

Agreed. But it is quite understandable that Eastern European countries are afraid of possible new 'Alliance of the Three Black Eagles'. And I can't imagine how the EU can unite with Russia while these countries are in the Union.

Why should I care? We have our own interests and we want a reliable resource supply. Those eastern countries cannot get around the fact that Russia is big and has its natural sphere of influence.
Putin: Russia will join the euro one day

You shouldn't care. Your country pursues its interests and that's understandable. But sometimes these interests contradict the interests of other countries. And that's understandable that other countries try to thwart undesirable developments.

How do the Northstream pipelines hurt them? Do they have a right to assert control over Russian-German business? They are all just crying because Russia has denied them brotherly soviet special tariffs. They should ask Washington for discount, don´t they?

Actually, the special tariffs are gone long ago and no one expects their return. And that is not all about pipilines. Profound economical cooperation leads to political cooperation sometimes at the expense of someone else.

 

[Bleipriester]

There were a lot of changes in history.

Agreed. But it is quite understandable that Eastern European countries are afraid of possible new 'Alliance of the Three Black Eagles'. And I can't imagine how the EU can unite with Russia while these countries are in the Union.

Why should I care? We have our own interests and we want a reliable resource supply. Those eastern countries cannot get around the fact that Russia is big and has its natural sphere of influence.
Putin: Russia will join the euro one day

You shouldn't care. Your country pursues its interests and that's understandable. But sometimes these interests contradict the interests of other countries. And that's understandable that other countries try to thwart undesirable developments.

How do the Northstream pipelines hurt them? Do they have a right to assert control over Russian-German business? They are all just crying because Russia has denied them brotherly soviet special tariffs. They should ask Washington for discount, don´t they?

Actually, the special tariffs are gone long ago and no one expects their return. And that is not all about pipilines. Profound economical cooperation leads to political cooperation sometimes at the expense of someone else.

Yeah, and we call it market.

It is the decision of the respective governments to confront Russia and thus face the economic consequences. Take Ukraine for example. Their economy is actually embedded within the Russian. It is a very dumb idea to cut the relationships.

 

[ESay]

Agreed. But it is quite understandable that Eastern European countries are afraid of possible new 'Alliance of the Three Black Eagles'. And I can't imagine how the EU can unite with Russia while these countries are in the Union.

Why should I care? We have our own interests and we want a reliable resource supply. Those eastern countries cannot get around the fact that Russia is big and has its natural sphere of influence.
Putin: Russia will join the euro one day

You shouldn't care. Your country pursues its interests and that's understandable. But sometimes these interests contradict the interests of other countries. And that's understandable that other countries try to thwart undesirable developments.

How do the Northstream pipelines hurt them? Do they have a right to assert control over Russian-German business? They are all just crying because Russia has denied them brotherly soviet special tariffs. They should ask Washington for discount, don´t they?

Actually, the special tariffs are gone long ago and no one expects their return. And that is not all about pipilines. Profound economical cooperation leads to political cooperation sometimes at the expense of someone else.

Yeah, and we call it market.

It is the decision of the respective governments to confront Russia and thus face the economic consequences. Take Ukraine for example. Their economy is actually embedded within the Russian. It is a very dumb idea to cut the relationships.

Economically Ukraine was tied to Russia, yes. This led to political demands from Moscow. I personally don't want any union with Russia. The Ukrainians have completely different political mentality than the Russians.

 

[Litwin]

" Take Ukraine for example. Their economy is actually embedded within the Russian. It is a very dumb idea to cut the relationships" Mongols juchi said exactly the same words about Polish and Estonian economics , and where are today Polish and Estonian economics and where is yours ? right deep in stalin´s &ss hole . LOL


Official Poll Shows Russians Too Poor to Afford Shoes, Puzzling Kremlin

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Official Poll Shows Russians Too Poor to Afford Shoes, Puzzling Kremlin. April 4, 2019. Dick Thomas Johnson / Flickr (CC BY 2.0). An official survey on the extent of economic hardship that Russians currently face — including their inability to ...

 

[Litwin]

Why should I care? We have our own interests and we want a reliable resource supply. Those eastern countries cannot get around the fact that Russia is big and has its natural sphere of influence.
Putin: Russia will join the euro one day

You shouldn't care. Your country pursues its interests and that's understandable. But sometimes these interests contradict the interests of other countries. And that's understandable that other countries try to thwart undesirable developments.

How do the Northstream pipelines hurt them? Do they have a right to assert control over Russian-German business? They are all just crying because Russia has denied them brotherly soviet special tariffs. They should ask Washington for discount, don´t they?

Actually, the special tariffs are gone long ago and no one expects their return. And that is not all about pipilines. Profound economical cooperation leads to political cooperation sometimes at the expense of someone else.

Yeah, and we call it market.

It is the decision of the respective governments to confront Russia and thus face the economic consequences. Take Ukraine for example. Their economy is actually embedded within the Russian. It is a very dumb idea to cut the relationships.

Economically Ukraine was tied to Russia, yes. This led to political demands from Moscow. I personally don't want any union with Russia. The Ukrainians have completely different political mentality than the Russians.

no one wants to be with aggressive empire juchi

Russians Start Off 2019 Less Confident In Everything - Forbes

https://www.forbes.com/.../2019/.../russians-start-off-2019-less-confident-in-everythin...
Jan 2, 2019 - Russians start off 2019 frustrated with the Putin Administration. ... If only 46% of people from a sector of the economy that is both subsidized by the ... New government officials are toning down long-term economic growth.

 

[Bleipriester]

Why should I care? We have our own interests and we want a reliable resource supply. Those eastern countries cannot get around the fact that Russia is big and has its natural sphere of influence.
Putin: Russia will join the euro one day

You shouldn't care. Your country pursues its interests and that's understandable. But sometimes these interests contradict the interests of other countries. And that's understandable that other countries try to thwart undesirable developments.

How do the Northstream pipelines hurt them? Do they have a right to assert control over Russian-German business? They are all just crying because Russia has denied them brotherly soviet special tariffs. They should ask Washington for discount, don´t they?

Actually, the special tariffs are gone long ago and no one expects their return. And that is not all about pipilines. Profound economical cooperation leads to political cooperation sometimes at the expense of someone else.

Yeah, and we call it market.

It is the decision of the respective governments to confront Russia and thus face the economic consequences. Take Ukraine for example. Their economy is actually embedded within the Russian. It is a very dumb idea to cut the relationships.

Economically Ukraine was tied to Russia, yes. This led to political demands from Moscow. I personally don't want any union with Russia. The Ukrainians have completely different political mentality than the Russians.

As a matter of fact, Ukraine´s economy was not doing well before and lived off Russian loans.

 

[ESay]

You shouldn't care. Your country pursues its interests and that's understandable. But sometimes these interests contradict the interests of other countries. And that's understandable that other countries try to thwart undesirable developments.

How do the Northstream pipelines hurt them? Do they have a right to assert control over Russian-German business? They are all just crying because Russia has denied them brotherly soviet special tariffs. They should ask Washington for discount, don´t they?

Actually, the special tariffs are gone long ago and no one expects their return. And that is not all about pipilines. Profound economical cooperation leads to political cooperation sometimes at the expense of someone else.

Yeah, and we call it market.

It is the decision of the respective governments to confront Russia and thus face the economic consequences. Take Ukraine for example. Their economy is actually embedded within the Russian. It is a very dumb idea to cut the relationships.

Economically Ukraine was tied to Russia, yes. This led to political demands from Moscow. I personally don't want any union with Russia. The Ukrainians have completely different political mentality than the Russians.

As a matter of fact, Ukraine´s economy was not doing well before and lived off Russian loans.

Ukraines economy is a mess. But what Russian loans do you mean?

 

[Bleipriester]

How do the Northstream pipelines hurt them? Do they have a right to assert control over Russian-German business? They are all just crying because Russia has denied them brotherly soviet special tariffs. They should ask Washington for discount, don´t they?

Actually, the special tariffs are gone long ago and no one expects their return. And that is not all about pipilines. Profound economical cooperation leads to political cooperation sometimes at the expense of someone else.

Yeah, and we call it market.

It is the decision of the respective governments to confront Russia and thus face the economic consequences. Take Ukraine for example. Their economy is actually embedded within the Russian. It is a very dumb idea to cut the relationships.

Economically Ukraine was tied to Russia, yes. This led to political demands from Moscow. I personally don't want any union with Russia. The Ukrainians have completely different political mentality than the Russians.

As a matter of fact, Ukraine´s economy was not doing well before and lived off Russian loans.

Ukraines economy is a mess. But what Russian loans do you mean?

General life support.

"Moderate poverty (World Bank’s national methodology for Ukraine) increased from 15 percent in 2014 to 22 percent in 2015, while the poverty rate (under $5/day in 2005 PPP) increased from 3.3 percent in 2014 to 5.8 percent in 2015."
Ukraine Economic Update – April 2017

 

[Litwin]

How do the Northstream pipelines hurt them? Do they have a right to assert control over Russian-German business? They are all just crying because Russia has denied them brotherly soviet special tariffs. They should ask Washington for discount, don´t they?

Actually, the special tariffs are gone long ago and no one expects their return. And that is not all about pipilines. Profound economical cooperation leads to political cooperation sometimes at the expense of someone else.

Yeah, and we call it market.

It is the decision of the respective governments to confront Russia and thus face the economic consequences. Take Ukraine for example. Their economy is actually embedded within the Russian. It is a very dumb idea to cut the relationships.

Economically Ukraine was tied to Russia, yes. This led to political demands from Moscow. I personally don't want any union with Russia. The Ukrainians have completely different political mentality than the Russians.

As a matter of fact, Ukraine´s economy was not doing well before and lived off Russian loans.

Ukraines economy is a mess. But what Russian loans do you mean?

Ukraine's economy growing 13 quarters in a row – President ...


Mar 12, 2019 - Ukraine's economy growing 13 quarters in a row – President Poroshenko ... slowed down to 8.8% in February 2019 from 9.2% in January 2019.

 

[ESay]

Actually, the special tariffs are gone long ago and no one expects their return. And that is not all about pipilines. Profound economical cooperation leads to political cooperation sometimes at the expense of someone else.

Yeah, and we call it market.

It is the decision of the respective governments to confront Russia and thus face the economic consequences. Take Ukraine for example. Their economy is actually embedded within the Russian. It is a very dumb idea to cut the relationships.

Economically Ukraine was tied to Russia, yes. This led to political demands from Moscow. I personally don't want any union with Russia. The Ukrainians have completely different political mentality than the Russians.

As a matter of fact, Ukraine´s economy was not doing well before and lived off Russian loans.

Ukraines economy is a mess. But what Russian loans do you mean?

General life support.

"Moderate poverty (World Bank’s national methodology for Ukraine) increased from 15 percent in 2014 to 22 percent in 2015, while the poverty rate (under $5/day in 2005 PPP) increased from 3.3 percent in 2014 to 5.8 percent in 2015."
Ukraine Economic Update – April 2017

I asked you about Russian loans. Either tell me what loans you mean exactly or don't waste my time.

 

[Litwin]

Death camp Buchenwald under "russian" occupant administration was functioning many years after 1945 . i am 100% sure that you have never heard about it "Soviet commie death Camps in Germany, 1945-1950". am i right?
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Archives: hunger and bureaucracy

For the revision of the GDR myth of Buchenwald, the revival of the memory of the post-war past of the camp was of decisive importance, and this, in turn, required considerable effort on the part of historical science. The existence of the camp of the NKVD, of which they knew, of course, in the West, did not have documentary evidence - the archives of the GDR were only to be examined, and the documents kept in Moscow required the same research.

The first question that confronted the researchers was the question of who, in fact, were the prisoners of the Soviet camp. “There was a variety of information on this score - the greatest amount of evidence we heard was received from former members of the Hitler Youth, who got there at the age of 14-18; they claimed that it was “such a holocaust against us,” recalls Niethammer. For the next few years, he and a team of like-minded people, including the director of the State Archives of the Russian Federation, Sergey Mironenko, tried to gather evidence or refutations of this information. The result of their work was the publication in 1995 of the collection of documents "Soviet Special Camps in Germany, 1945-1950".

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NKVD special camps in Germany 1945–49 - Wikipedia



At first there were 10 such internment camps in the Soviet occupation zone, then their number decreased to three — these are Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen, and Bautzen. In Buchenwald, the main contingent was made up of those who at one time were members of Nazi organizations, but there were very few who held really responsible posts among them - “mostly they were local level functionaries,” Nithammer summarizes. In Bautzen there were practically no minor regime bipods - “rebellious youth” were kept there, retaining loyalty to the fallen regime and embarking on the tough opposition of the occupation administration. Representatives of both these groups were imprisoned in Sachsenhausen.

“By this, they [Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen and Bautzen] were very different from the internment camps in the Western [occupation] zones. Americans put more people in the camps than in the eastern zone, but among the prisoners there were a high proportion of high-ranking Nazi functionaries, including SS officers, while the Soviet administration considered the SS men prisoners of war and sent them to other camps, ”says Niethammer.

Another documented discovery of researchers was the recognition that the death rate in the Soviet special camp was comparable to the death rate in Buchenwald under the Nazis. The bulk of the 28,000 dead died in a very specific period of time, from the fall of 1946 to the summer of 1947. The German scientist stresses that the NKVD camp “did not purposefully kill prisoners,” and continues: “Surprisingly, there was relatively little violence - most of the violence occurred during the arrests, but after people went to this camp, not even exploited. They were not forced to work - in contrast to the GULAG, where prisoners were forced to work, the inhabitants of this camp had no right to work, they were simply isolated from the outside world. ”

“It was not a Nazi massacre, produced by terror and exploitation, it was a Soviet-style massacre, due to bureaucratic delays and conflicts between various departments and a general neglect [of people’s lives],” Niethammer states. Prisoners in the Soviet camp were dying themselves - from starvation.

The winter of 1946-1947 throughout Europe was very harsh, it led to famine in the USSR, and just at that time the NKVD decided to transfer the camp to the balance of the Soviet military administration in Germany (SVAG). While there was a process of acceptance of documents, nobody was engaged in feeding the prisoners, and when the administrators appointed by SVAR took over, they simply cut the diet. Normal nutrition began to return to Buchenwald only after a quarter of the prisoners in the camp died out."


Death camp Buchenwald under "russian" occupant administration was functioning many years after 1945

 

[Bleipriester]

Yeah, and we call it market.

It is the decision of the respective governments to confront Russia and thus face the economic consequences. Take Ukraine for example. Their economy is actually embedded within the Russian. It is a very dumb idea to cut the relationships.

Economically Ukraine was tied to Russia, yes. This led to political demands from Moscow. I personally don't want any union with Russia. The Ukrainians have completely different political mentality than the Russians.

As a matter of fact, Ukraine´s economy was not doing well before and lived off Russian loans.

Ukraines economy is a mess. But what Russian loans do you mean?

General life support.

"Moderate poverty (World Bank’s national methodology for Ukraine) increased from 15 percent in 2014 to 22 percent in 2015, while the poverty rate (under $5/day in 2005 PPP) increased from 3.3 percent in 2014 to 5.8 percent in 2015."
Ukraine Economic Update – April 2017

I asked you about Russian loans. Either tell me what loans you mean exactly or don't waste my time.

Do I look like I collect lists of loans?
www.google.com

 

[ESay]

Economically Ukraine was tied to Russia, yes. This led to political demands from Moscow. I personally don't want any union with Russia. The Ukrainians have completely different political mentality than the Russians.

As a matter of fact, Ukraine´s economy was not doing well before and lived off Russian loans.

Ukraines economy is a mess. But what Russian loans do you mean?

General life support.

"Moderate poverty (World Bank’s national methodology for Ukraine) increased from 15 percent in 2014 to 22 percent in 2015, while the poverty rate (under $5/day in 2005 PPP) increased from 3.3 percent in 2014 to 5.8 percent in 2015."
Ukraine Economic Update – April 2017

I asked you about Russian loans. Either tell me what loans you mean exactly or don't waste my time.

Do I look like I collect lists of loans?
www.google.com

No, you look like a poster of bullshit.

 

[Bleipriester]

As a matter of fact, Ukraine´s economy was not doing well before and lived off Russian loans.

Ukraines economy is a mess. But what Russian loans do you mean?

General life support.

"Moderate poverty (World Bank’s national methodology for Ukraine) increased from 15 percent in 2014 to 22 percent in 2015, while the poverty rate (under $5/day in 2005 PPP) increased from 3.3 percent in 2014 to 5.8 percent in 2015."
Ukraine Economic Update – April 2017

I asked you about Russian loans. Either tell me what loans you mean exactly or don't waste my time.

Do I look like I collect lists of loans?
www.google.com

No, you look like a poster of bullshit.

LMGTFY

Ukraine Defaults On Russian Loan: What's Next?

 

[ESay]

Ukraines economy is a mess. But what Russian loans do you mean?

General life support.

"Moderate poverty (World Bank’s national methodology for Ukraine) increased from 15 percent in 2014 to 22 percent in 2015, while the poverty rate (under $5/day in 2005 PPP) increased from 3.3 percent in 2014 to 5.8 percent in 2015."
Ukraine Economic Update – April 2017

I asked you about Russian loans. Either tell me what loans you mean exactly or don't waste my time.

Do I look like I collect lists of loans?
www.google.com

No, you look like a poster of bullshit.

LMGTFY

Ukraine Defaults On Russian Loan: What's Next?

One loan. Next.
I want to remember you talked about loans.

 

[007]

It's more like DEMOCRATS and HITLER are more alike...

 

[Bleipriester]

General life support.

"Moderate poverty (World Bank’s national methodology for Ukraine) increased from 15 percent in 2014 to 22 percent in 2015, while the poverty rate (under $5/day in 2005 PPP) increased from 3.3 percent in 2014 to 5.8 percent in 2015."
Ukraine Economic Update – April 2017

I asked you about Russian loans. Either tell me what loans you mean exactly or don't waste my time.

Do I look like I collect lists of loans?
www.google.com

No, you look like a poster of bullshit.

LMGTFY

Ukraine Defaults On Russian Loan: What's Next?

One loan. Next.
I want to remember you talked about loans.

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