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What is the meaning of life?
Are murder, rape and theft wrong? If so, why?
Are murder, rape and theft wrong? If so, why?
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What is the meaning of life?
Are murder, rape and theft wrong? If so, why?
What is the meaning of life?
Are murder, rape and theft wrong? If so, why?
Theyre wrong for the same reasons theists believe as both those free from faith and theists derive their morals and values from the same source: man.
Given the fact there is no god as perceived by theists, no one possesses a monopoly on morals and values.
What is the meaning of life?
Are murder, rape and theft wrong? If so, why?
Theyre wrong for the same reasons theists believe as both those free from faith and theists derive their morals and values from the same source: man.
Given the fact there is no god as perceived by theists, no one possesses a monopoly on morals and values.
So no one can objectively claim murder, rape, and theft are wrong.
Stop regulating my preferences!
No moral authority is objectively legitimate, since after all, under your secular worldview, no one has a monopoly on morals or values.They’re wrong for the same reasons theists believe – as both those free from faith and theists derive their morals and values from the same source: man.
Given the fact there is no ‘god’ as perceived by theists, no one possesses a ‘monopoly’ on morals and values.
So no one can objectively claim murder, rape, and theft are wrong.
Stop regulating my preferences!
You don’t understand.
The mistake you make as a theist is to believe that the ultimate ‘source’ of morals and values comes from some omnipotent deity, and consequently that deity’s dogma exists as a ‘moral authority.’
Consequently you ask the wrong question, the question you and other theists should be asking yourselves is how do we know this ‘moral authority’ is legitimate given the fact there is no evidence of the existence of a ‘god,’ where religion and ‘god’ are in fact creations of man.
What is the meaning of life?
Are murder, rape and theft wrong? If so, why?
What is the meaning of life?
Are murder, rape and theft wrong? If so, why?
Theyre wrong for the same reasons theists believe as both those free from faith and theists derive their morals and values from the same source: man.
Given the fact there is no god as perceived by theists, no one possesses a monopoly on morals and values.
What is the meaning of life?
Are murder, rape and theft wrong? If so, why?
Murder, rape and theft are wrong because they harm others. These acts have been illegal in every legal system ever devised by civilized man. They are not dependent on religious beliefs.
No moral authority is objectively legitimate, since after all, under your secular worldview, no one has a monopoly on morals or values.So no one can objectively claim murder, rape, and theft are wrong.
Stop regulating my preferences!
You don’t understand.
The mistake you make as a theist is to believe that the ultimate ‘source’ of morals and values comes from some omnipotent deity, and consequently that deity’s dogma exists as a ‘moral authority.’
Consequently you ask the wrong question, the question you and other theists should be asking yourselves is how do we know this ‘moral authority’ is legitimate given the fact there is no evidence of the existence of a ‘god,’ where religion and ‘god’ are in fact creations of man.
So the question becomes, how does one prevent a secular atheist society from collapsing due to its nihilist foundations?
No moral authority is objectively legitimate, since after all, under your secular worldview, no one has a monopoly on morals or values.You dont understand.
The mistake you make as a theist is to believe that the ultimate source of morals and values comes from some omnipotent deity, and consequently that deitys dogma exists as a moral authority.
Consequently you ask the wrong question, the question you and other theists should be asking yourselves is how do we know this moral authority is legitimate given the fact there is no evidence of the existence of a god, where religion and god are in fact creations of man.
So the question becomes, how does one prevent a secular atheist society from collapsing due to its nihilist foundations?
Simple.
Atheism and nihilism are not synonymous.
What you find the need to attribute to an external source is simply the necessary adaptation of man to live in close proximity with each other without complete mayhem. Cultures develop their vision of what that moral code is and non-compliance is met with what society determines is an appropriate punishment for that.
No god required.
No moral authority is objectively legitimate, since after all, under your secular worldview, no one has a monopoly on morals or values.
So the question becomes, how does one prevent a secular atheist society from collapsing due to its nihilist foundations?
Simple.
Atheism and nihilism are not synonymous.
What you find the need to attribute to an external source is simply the necessary adaptation of man to live in close proximity with each other without complete mayhem. Cultures develop their vision of what that moral code is and non-compliance is met with what society determines is an appropriate punishment for that.
No god required.
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My calculations according to SCIENCE and reason conclude no organized faith is necessary for a moral society.
But, morality is subjective, can't define moral , beep boop beep boop data overload!
Who is this fat nerd?
So rape, murder, and theft are just preferences like the choice like choosing coke or pepsi?
If they are just preferences, why regulate them?
No questions were answered here, however, more have now been asked.
Simple.
Atheism and nihilism are not synonymous.
What you find the need to attribute to an external source is simply the necessary adaptation of man to live in close proximity with each other without complete mayhem. Cultures develop their vision of what that moral code is and non-compliance is met with what society determines is an appropriate punishment for that.
No god required.
beep boop beep boop.
My calculations according to SCIENCE and reason conclude no organized faith is necessary for a moral society.
But, morality is subjective, can't define moral , beep boop beep boop data overload!
No response from you.
Understood.
beep boop beep boop.
My calculations according to SCIENCE and reason conclude no organized faith is necessary for a moral society.
But, morality is subjective, can't define moral , beep boop beep boop data overload!
No response from you.
Understood.
Response not computed, rephrase, beep boop.
I'm an atheist. I swear to God I am.