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The Catholic Church has always taught that the only unforgivable sinDemonic ends are one thing. But all this denomination/CULT has to do to secure one for Satan, is get them to mace a mockery, or... Blaspheme the Holy Spirit; and even Christ will never forgive them.
i don't think Vastator is speaking for god, but i do wonder how acts could be sp clear that the apostles spoke (and there may be a few possibilities, but i think the apostles spoke aramaic or greek koine and everyone who heard them understood.Vastator is God's voice?
You may not need to worry. Glossolalia (speaking in Tongues) has been researched by psychologists. It usually occurs when one is in an emotional state, often followed by euphoria, and some suggest this is exactly what the Apostles and disciples experienced on Sunday upon the advent of the Holy Spirit. Where it gets messy is that some feel pressured to speak in Tongues, or to teach others how to speak in Tongues, so there is a bit of pretense and even sham going on with some.I worry that the Pentacostals are truly the work of Satan/Lucifer.
Let me explain where this concern comes from. Primarily, it is the speaking in tongues.
From thine own mouth...You may not need to worry. Glossolalia (speaking in Tongues) has been researched by psychologists. It usually occurs when one is in an emotional state, often followed by euphoria, and some suggest this is exactly what the Apostles and disciples experienced on Sunday upon the advent of the Holy Spirit. Where it gets messy is that some feel pressured to speak in Tongues, or to teach others how to speak in Tongues, so there is a bit of pretense and even sham going on with some.
The one thing I can tell you from personal experience is that it is optional. I was deep in prayer some years ago and I knew I could do it--I only needed to open my mouth. I chose not to, but it was a memorable enough experience that I immediately did some research. Keep in mind not all Pentecostals speak in Tongues, and many are faithful followers of Jesus and scripture. They prefer Pentecostal services because most are very energetic and often loud--but sincere. I am not cut out to be a Pentecostal--I prefer the calm and peaceful over the flamboyant.From thine own mouth...
President Spencer W. Kimball also added that,“What must a man do to commit the unpardonable sin? He must receive the Holy Ghost, have the heavens opened unto him, and know God, and then sin against him. After a man has sinned against the Holy Ghost, there is no repentance for him. He has got to say that the sun does not shine while he sees it; he has got to deny Jesus Christ when the heavens have been opened unto him, and to deny the plan of salvation with his eyes open to the truth of it.”
“The sin against the Holy Ghost requires such knowledge that it is manifestly impossible for the rank and file to commit such a sin.”
Not my opinion. The word of scripture. So, when compared against the scripture... I have questions.
Oh!!! You are so very wrong... I most certainly have. And never have I experienced a more malevolent, evil experience in my life. I was actually afraid to get up and leave. It was like being dropped into an asylum; and hearing the cells click open. My experience there is in part why I opened this thread. While they loudly proclaimed that the Holy Spirit was present in their revelry... I actually definitely felt a spiritual presence. And there was nothing Holy about it. Quite the Contrary...
While I'm not intimately familiar with all the teachings of Catholicism; in Christianity the Bible speaks to the finality of the unforgivable sin.The Catholic Church has always taught that the only unforgivable sin
is to reject Christ until the VERY end of your life.
And we don't even know if a person has done that at death because the spirit could repent after leaving the body..
I'm quite familiar w/ this psg and have read the entire bible, much of it over and over again. Also, If you attend daily Mass for 3 years, you will essentially hear the entire Bible, Old and NWhile I'm not intimately familiar with all the teachings of Catholicism; in Christianity the Bible speaks to the finality of the unforgivable sin.
Mark 3:29
King James Version
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
Matthew 12:31–32 states, "Therefore I tell you, people will be forgiven for every sin and blasphemy, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come".
As a Christian there is little chance I would ever be attending Mass. Less still would be the need for a Church, or Priest to explain this rather straight forward, easy to understand passage.I'm quite familiar w/ this psg and have read the entire bible, much of it over and over again. Also, If you attend daily Mass for 3 years, you will essentially hear the entire Bible, Old and N
This psg is a good example of why we need a CHURCH to interpret scripture. It is SO easy to read this psgthat you give and deterimine that it must be speaking of SAYING something unholy. But that is not it. If the Holy Spirit inspires you to do something and you don't do it... you can still repent and then go do what you at first refused to do. That is not blasphemy of the HS. In my Douay Rheims Bible that has great footnotes on difficult- sounding psgs, it says something to the effect that.. well, the people Jesus was addressing when He warned of blasphemy of the HS had just accused Him of using the power of Satan, knowing that that was not true. Ok, this is MY comment (only God knows whether they knew what they were doing), so ... to get back to the DR footnote material, it says basically that a soul can resist the HS, resist accepting Christ.. so many times that it becomes so hardened it is extremely unlikely that person will ever repent. But of course all things are possible with God and He definitely looks to be waiting for people to repent (Pelosi, bribum...). I frankly think he waits too long, but who am I to say?
In any case, Jesus was WARNING about .. hate to put it this way, but basically giving a finger to the HS, saying NO, I will not serve (Satan's words).
He was not necessarily saying those people had done that in an absolute way, so that there was no room for repentance.. He was simply WARNING them and all of us..
OKAs a Christian there is little chance I would ever be attending Mass. Less still would be the need for a Church, or Priest to explain this rather straight forward, easy to understand passage.
That wasn't meant to come across terse. But Catholics have a different "Bible", than Christians. Also different customs, beliefs, and rituals. With that being said; what your book, and church teach, aren't really very applicable to the things going on amongst the Pentacostals. Don't feel too alienated by that because even as Bibles go, this lot that I interact with where I am are STRICTLY KJVO. Which means King James Version Only. And they're very serious about that. I've heard some really interesting thoughts, opinions, and theories about other versions of the Bible from some of these folks
Yes, they do (sort of). The Catholic Bible is different because of LUTHER (apostate priest), who removed 7 books from the Old Testament --and wanted to remove 4 from the New but colleagues stopped him. So Catholics have the entire Bible. Protestants have parts of it.That wasn't meant to come across terse. But Catholics have a different "Bible", than Christians.
You obviously have never attended a Pentecostal Church.
Honestly, I have no idea. The first time I heard it I was amazed. I believe it started with foreign dialects.So what are they saying when they speak in tongues?
