Clementine
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Hillary voted for the Iraq war and defended her position for years. Trump didn't seem sure about supporting it when asked in an interview. Saying, "I guess so" sounds unsure to me. Hillary's vote for it and subsequent defense of that vote sounds quite certain. Yet, fact checkers are standing behind the story that Trump is bad because he supported the Iraq war. Hillary is being completely let off the hook. This is why many fact checkers and Hillary supporters are completely full of shit.
"Lately the “fact checkers” have been waging a campaign to portray Donald Trump as a contemporaneous supporter of the Iraq war, contrary to his assertions that he was an opponent. In Monday’s debate, Hillary Clinton pleaded for their help: “I hope the fact checkers are turning up the volume and really working hard. Donald supported the invasion of Iraq.” Moderator Lester Holt obliged, basing a question to Trump on the premise that the matter was settled: “You supported the war in Iraq before the invasion.”
Trump somewhat inarticulately rebutted the claim: “The record shows that I’m right. When I did an interview with Howard Stern, very lightly, the first time anybody’s asked me that, I said, very lightly, I don’t know, maybe, who knows.”
What Trump actually said on Sept. 11, 2002, when Stern asked him if he favored an invasion, was: “Yeah, I guess so.” That was an affirmative statement, but a highly equivocal one. Is it fair or accurate to characterize it as sufficient to establish that Trump was a “supporter”? In our opinion, no. He might well have had second thoughts immediately after getting off the air with Stern.
He certainly had second thoughts in the ensuing months, and he came to oppose the invasion long before Mrs. Clinton did.
It’s a bit amazing that the media holds Trump’s long-abandoned position on Iraq from a raunchy radio show to carry more weight than Mrs. Clinton’s actual Senate vote for the Iraq war, which she reflexively defended for more than a decade."
Rasmussen Poll: Only 29 Percent Trust Media 'Fact Checking' of Candidate Comments
"Lately the “fact checkers” have been waging a campaign to portray Donald Trump as a contemporaneous supporter of the Iraq war, contrary to his assertions that he was an opponent. In Monday’s debate, Hillary Clinton pleaded for their help: “I hope the fact checkers are turning up the volume and really working hard. Donald supported the invasion of Iraq.” Moderator Lester Holt obliged, basing a question to Trump on the premise that the matter was settled: “You supported the war in Iraq before the invasion.”
Trump somewhat inarticulately rebutted the claim: “The record shows that I’m right. When I did an interview with Howard Stern, very lightly, the first time anybody’s asked me that, I said, very lightly, I don’t know, maybe, who knows.”
What Trump actually said on Sept. 11, 2002, when Stern asked him if he favored an invasion, was: “Yeah, I guess so.” That was an affirmative statement, but a highly equivocal one. Is it fair or accurate to characterize it as sufficient to establish that Trump was a “supporter”? In our opinion, no. He might well have had second thoughts immediately after getting off the air with Stern.
He certainly had second thoughts in the ensuing months, and he came to oppose the invasion long before Mrs. Clinton did.
It’s a bit amazing that the media holds Trump’s long-abandoned position on Iraq from a raunchy radio show to carry more weight than Mrs. Clinton’s actual Senate vote for the Iraq war, which she reflexively defended for more than a decade."
Rasmussen Poll: Only 29 Percent Trust Media 'Fact Checking' of Candidate Comments
