reality--a LOT of '''christians'' are not ''christian

[impuretrash]

Ok jackass

 

[CWayne]

If humans were perfect beings, they would master their worship and not have a need to continue to practice their Christianity.

Since we refer to religion as one "Practicing" their faith, then it goes without saying that Christian and other religious devotee's go to church to continue to learn how to be perfect Christians, or Muslims, or Hindi, or Jews.

So, in essence, you are ridiculing people for trying to be better at their faith because they haven't mastered it.


That is like ridiculing a six-year-old for not having managed to master throwing a curveball in baseball.

idiotic analogy comparing it to a 6 year old
OK --if they are not hypocrites, the teachings do not make sense:
you say they are not perfect--yet sin is wrong = does not make sense

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

 

[harmonica]

If humans were perfect beings, they would master their worship and not have a need to continue to practice their Christianity.

Since we refer to religion as one "Practicing" their faith, then it goes without saying that Christian and other religious devotee's go to church to continue to learn how to be perfect Christians, or Muslims, or Hindi, or Jews.

So, in essence, you are ridiculing people for trying to be better at their faith because they haven't mastered it.


That is like ridiculing a six-year-old for not having managed to master throwing a curveball in baseball.

idiotic analogy comparing it to a 6 year old
OK --if they are not hypocrites, the teachings do not make sense:
you say they are not perfect--yet sin is wrong = does not make sense

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

feel better!! hahahah there it is again
....here --look at this thread
what theists think of atheists

 

[harmonica]

If humans were perfect beings, they would master their worship and not have a need to continue to practice their Christianity.

Since we refer to religion as one "Practicing" their faith, then it goes without saying that Christian and other religious devotee's go to church to continue to learn how to be perfect Christians, or Muslims, or Hindi, or Jews.

So, in essence, you are ridiculing people for trying to be better at their faith because they haven't mastered it.


That is like ridiculing a six-year-old for not having managed to master throwing a curveball in baseball.

idiotic analogy comparing it to a 6 year old
OK --if they are not hypocrites, the teachings do not make sense:
you say they are not perfect--yet sin is wrong = does not make sense

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

....so, is it not taught that sin is wrong to do?? yet you say we are not perfect---YES--we ARE NOT perfect.....we were ''created'' to sin----yet the teachings say it is wrong = does not make sense

 

[CWayne]

If humans were perfect beings, they would master their worship and not have a need to continue to practice their Christianity.

Since we refer to religion as one "Practicing" their faith, then it goes without saying that Christian and other religious devotee's go to church to continue to learn how to be perfect Christians, or Muslims, or Hindi, or Jews.

So, in essence, you are ridiculing people for trying to be better at their faith because they haven't mastered it.


That is like ridiculing a six-year-old for not having managed to master throwing a curveball in baseball.

idiotic analogy comparing it to a 6 year old
OK --if they are not hypocrites, the teachings do not make sense:
you say they are not perfect--yet sin is wrong = does not make sense

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

....so, is it not taught that sin is wrong to do?? yet you say we are not perfect---YES--we ARE NOT perfect.....we were ''created'' to sin----yet the teachings say it is wrong = does not make sense

So, if you consider what religion really is, it is a covenant between the person and the God they believe in.

If they beleive sin is wrong. then they strive to ensure they do no wrong. An imperfect human, practicing their faith, will miss the mark. If they were perfect, and never sinned, they would have no need to practice their faith any longer.

Your 'feeling' that it does not make any sense isn't relevant to anyone but you.

 

[harmonica]

If humans were perfect beings, they would master their worship and not have a need to continue to practice their Christianity.

Since we refer to religion as one "Practicing" their faith, then it goes without saying that Christian and other religious devotee's go to church to continue to learn how to be perfect Christians, or Muslims, or Hindi, or Jews.

So, in essence, you are ridiculing people for trying to be better at their faith because they haven't mastered it.


That is like ridiculing a six-year-old for not having managed to master throwing a curveball in baseball.

idiotic analogy comparing it to a 6 year old
OK --if they are not hypocrites, the teachings do not make sense:
you say they are not perfect--yet sin is wrong = does not make sense

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

hahhahahahahah--you people are out of your minds
this is a discussion forum, is it not?????!!!!!!
.....I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!---
again--- I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith---am I???!!!

 

[CWayne]

If humans were perfect beings, they would master their worship and not have a need to continue to practice their Christianity.

Since we refer to religion as one "Practicing" their faith, then it goes without saying that Christian and other religious devotee's go to church to continue to learn how to be perfect Christians, or Muslims, or Hindi, or Jews.

So, in essence, you are ridiculing people for trying to be better at their faith because they haven't mastered it.


That is like ridiculing a six-year-old for not having managed to master throwing a curveball in baseball.

idiotic analogy comparing it to a 6 year old
OK --if they are not hypocrites, the teachings do not make sense:
you say they are not perfect--yet sin is wrong = does not make sense

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

hahhahahahahah--you people are out of your minds
this is a discussion forum, is it not?????!!!!!!
.....I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!---
again--- I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith---am I???!!!

Nor are you engaged in any constructive discussion. Here is a hint. Ridicule is not constructive discussion.

 

[harmonica]

If humans were perfect beings, they would master their worship and not have a need to continue to practice their Christianity.

Since we refer to religion as one "Practicing" their faith, then it goes without saying that Christian and other religious devotee's go to church to continue to learn how to be perfect Christians, or Muslims, or Hindi, or Jews.

So, in essence, you are ridiculing people for trying to be better at their faith because they haven't mastered it.


That is like ridiculing a six-year-old for not having managed to master throwing a curveball in baseball.

idiotic analogy comparing it to a 6 year old
OK --if they are not hypocrites, the teachings do not make sense:
you say they are not perfect--yet sin is wrong = does not make sense

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

....so, is it not taught that sin is wrong to do?? yet you say we are not perfect---YES--we ARE NOT perfect.....we were ''created'' to sin----yet the teachings say it is wrong = does not make sense

So, if you consider what religion really is, it is a covenant between the person and the God they believe in.

If they beleive sin is wrong. then they strive to ensure they do no wrong. An imperfect human, practicing their faith, will miss the mark. If they were perfect, and never sinned, they would have no need to practice their faith any longer.

Your 'feeling' that it does not make any sense isn't relevant to anyone but you.

....jealousy/greed/gluttony/murder/etc are all human ''traits''--we do them naturally ..so why are they sins? wrong to do??

 

[harmonica]

If humans were perfect beings, they would master their worship and not have a need to continue to practice their Christianity.

Since we refer to religion as one "Practicing" their faith, then it goes without saying that Christian and other religious devotee's go to church to continue to learn how to be perfect Christians, or Muslims, or Hindi, or Jews.

So, in essence, you are ridiculing people for trying to be better at their faith because they haven't mastered it.


That is like ridiculing a six-year-old for not having managed to master throwing a curveball in baseball.

idiotic analogy comparing it to a 6 year old
OK --if they are not hypocrites, the teachings do not make sense:
you say they are not perfect--yet sin is wrong = does not make sense

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

hahhahahahahah--you people are out of your minds
this is a discussion forum, is it not?????!!!!!!
.....I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!---
again--- I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith---am I???!!!

Nor are you engaged in any constructive discussion. Here is a hint. Ridicule is not constructive discussion.

question: Jimmy Swaggart was NOT a hypocrite--yes or no?
telling the truth is NOT ridiculing

 

[CWayne]

If humans were perfect beings, they would master their worship and not have a need to continue to practice their Christianity.

Since we refer to religion as one "Practicing" their faith, then it goes without saying that Christian and other religious devotee's go to church to continue to learn how to be perfect Christians, or Muslims, or Hindi, or Jews.

So, in essence, you are ridiculing people for trying to be better at their faith because they haven't mastered it.


That is like ridiculing a six-year-old for not having managed to master throwing a curveball in baseball.

idiotic analogy comparing it to a 6 year old
OK --if they are not hypocrites, the teachings do not make sense:
you say they are not perfect--yet sin is wrong = does not make sense

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

....so, is it not taught that sin is wrong to do?? yet you say we are not perfect---YES--we ARE NOT perfect.....we were ''created'' to sin----yet the teachings say it is wrong = does not make sense

So, if you consider what religion really is, it is a covenant between the person and the God they believe in.

If they beleive sin is wrong. then they strive to ensure they do no wrong. An imperfect human, practicing their faith, will miss the mark. If they were perfect, and never sinned, they would have no need to practice their faith any longer.

Your 'feeling' that it does not make any sense isn't relevant to anyone but you.

....jealousy/greed/gluttony/murder/etc are all human ''traits''--we do them naturally ..so why are they sins? wrong to do??

Are you asking me why you cannot fathom why these traits are wrong?

 

[harmonica]

If humans were perfect beings, they would master their worship and not have a need to continue to practice their Christianity.

Since we refer to religion as one "Practicing" their faith, then it goes without saying that Christian and other religious devotee's go to church to continue to learn how to be perfect Christians, or Muslims, or Hindi, or Jews.

So, in essence, you are ridiculing people for trying to be better at their faith because they haven't mastered it.


That is like ridiculing a six-year-old for not having managed to master throwing a curveball in baseball.

idiotic analogy comparing it to a 6 year old
OK --if they are not hypocrites, the teachings do not make sense:
you say they are not perfect--yet sin is wrong = does not make sense

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

hahhahahahahah--you people are out of your minds
this is a discussion forum, is it not?????!!!!!!
.....I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!---
again--- I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith---am I???!!!

Nor are you engaged in any constructive discussion. Here is a hint. Ridicule is not constructive discussion.

most of the crap on USMB is not constructive discussion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
most of the discussions on ANY forums/comments/etc are not constructive

 

[CWayne]

If humans were perfect beings, they would master their worship and not have a need to continue to practice their Christianity.

Since we refer to religion as one "Practicing" their faith, then it goes without saying that Christian and other religious devotee's go to church to continue to learn how to be perfect Christians, or Muslims, or Hindi, or Jews.

So, in essence, you are ridiculing people for trying to be better at their faith because they haven't mastered it.


That is like ridiculing a six-year-old for not having managed to master throwing a curveball in baseball.

idiotic analogy comparing it to a 6 year old
OK --if they are not hypocrites, the teachings do not make sense:
you say they are not perfect--yet sin is wrong = does not make sense

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

hahhahahahahah--you people are out of your minds
this is a discussion forum, is it not?????!!!!!!
.....I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!---
again--- I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith---am I???!!!

Nor are you engaged in any constructive discussion. Here is a hint. Ridicule is not constructive discussion.

question: Jimmy Swaggart was NOT a hypocrite--yes or no?
telling the truth is NOT ridiculing

I am not Jimmy Swaggart. I don't know what it is you think he has said that makes him a hypocrite, but I see you failed to grasp the concept of "practicing faith".

 

[harmonica]

idiotic analogy comparing it to a 6 year old
OK --if they are not hypocrites, the teachings do not make sense:
you say they are not perfect--yet sin is wrong = does not make sense

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

....so, is it not taught that sin is wrong to do?? yet you say we are not perfect---YES--we ARE NOT perfect.....we were ''created'' to sin----yet the teachings say it is wrong = does not make sense

So, if you consider what religion really is, it is a covenant between the person and the God they believe in.

If they beleive sin is wrong. then they strive to ensure they do no wrong. An imperfect human, practicing their faith, will miss the mark. If they were perfect, and never sinned, they would have no need to practice their faith any longer.

Your 'feeling' that it does not make any sense isn't relevant to anyone but you.

....jealousy/greed/gluttony/murder/etc are all human ''traits''--we do them naturally ..so why are they sins? wrong to do??

Are you asking me why you cannot fathom why these traits are wrong?

they are not wrong to do if we were ''created'' to do them

 

[CWayne]

If humans were perfect beings, they would master their worship and not have a need to continue to practice their Christianity.

Since we refer to religion as one "Practicing" their faith, then it goes without saying that Christian and other religious devotee's go to church to continue to learn how to be perfect Christians, or Muslims, or Hindi, or Jews.

So, in essence, you are ridiculing people for trying to be better at their faith because they haven't mastered it.


That is like ridiculing a six-year-old for not having managed to master throwing a curveball in baseball.

idiotic analogy comparing it to a 6 year old
OK --if they are not hypocrites, the teachings do not make sense:
you say they are not perfect--yet sin is wrong = does not make sense

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

hahhahahahahah--you people are out of your minds
this is a discussion forum, is it not?????!!!!!!
.....I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!---
again--- I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith---am I???!!!

Nor are you engaged in any constructive discussion. Here is a hint. Ridicule is not constructive discussion.

most of the crap on USMB is not constructive discussion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
most of the discussions on ANY forums/comments/etc are not constructive

I don't follow. A discussion has a single purpose.

To exchange ideas as a means of understanding. If it is not constructive, then it really isn't a discussion.

Simply because it is not adhered to on this forum does not change the truth of it.

 

[harmonica]

idiotic analogy comparing it to a 6 year old
OK --if they are not hypocrites, the teachings do not make sense:
you say they are not perfect--yet sin is wrong = does not make sense

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

hahhahahahahah--you people are out of your minds
this is a discussion forum, is it not?????!!!!!!
.....I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!---
again--- I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith---am I???!!!

Nor are you engaged in any constructive discussion. Here is a hint. Ridicule is not constructive discussion.

question: Jimmy Swaggart was NOT a hypocrite--yes or no?
telling the truth is NOT ridiculing

I am not Jimmy Swaggart. I don't know what it is you think he has said that makes him a hypocrite, but I see you failed to grasp the concept of "practicing faith".

....he condemned Bakker for ''sinning''--the he went and sinned.....it's not difficult to see--especially after I explained it before
hy·poc·ri·sy
/həˈpäkrəsē/
Learn to pronounce
noun

1. the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

 

[CWayne]

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

....so, is it not taught that sin is wrong to do?? yet you say we are not perfect---YES--we ARE NOT perfect.....we were ''created'' to sin----yet the teachings say it is wrong = does not make sense

So, if you consider what religion really is, it is a covenant between the person and the God they believe in.

If they beleive sin is wrong. then they strive to ensure they do no wrong. An imperfect human, practicing their faith, will miss the mark. If they were perfect, and never sinned, they would have no need to practice their faith any longer.

Your 'feeling' that it does not make any sense isn't relevant to anyone but you.

....jealousy/greed/gluttony/murder/etc are all human ''traits''--we do them naturally ..so why are they sins? wrong to do??

Are you asking me why you cannot fathom why these traits are wrong?

they are not wrong to do if we were ''created'' to do them

Ah, so you have proof that we were 'created to do them'? Or are you trying to imply that our imperfections were deliberately put in us? Is this an attempt to justify your own personal desires?

 

[harmonica]

idiotic analogy comparing it to a 6 year old
OK --if they are not hypocrites, the teachings do not make sense:
you say they are not perfect--yet sin is wrong = does not make sense

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

hahhahahahahah--you people are out of your minds
this is a discussion forum, is it not?????!!!!!!
.....I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!---
again--- I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith---am I???!!!

Nor are you engaged in any constructive discussion. Here is a hint. Ridicule is not constructive discussion.

question: Jimmy Swaggart was NOT a hypocrite--yes or no?
telling the truth is NOT ridiculing

I am not Jimmy Swaggart. I don't know what it is you think he has said that makes him a hypocrite, but I see you failed to grasp the concept of "practicing faith".

..you seem mad/etc ......you keep ridiculing me/my posts/etc
so--you CHRISTIANS are the ones who get emotional/hateful/etc to others

 

[harmonica]

....so, is it not taught that sin is wrong to do?? yet you say we are not perfect---YES--we ARE NOT perfect.....we were ''created'' to sin----yet the teachings say it is wrong = does not make sense

So, if you consider what religion really is, it is a covenant between the person and the God they believe in.

If they beleive sin is wrong. then they strive to ensure they do no wrong. An imperfect human, practicing their faith, will miss the mark. If they were perfect, and never sinned, they would have no need to practice their faith any longer.

Your 'feeling' that it does not make any sense isn't relevant to anyone but you.

....jealousy/greed/gluttony/murder/etc are all human ''traits''--we do them naturally ..so why are they sins? wrong to do??

Are you asking me why you cannot fathom why these traits are wrong?

they are not wrong to do if we were ''created'' to do them

Ah, so you have proof that we were 'created to do them'? Or are you trying to imply that our imperfections were deliberately put in us? Is this an attempt to justify your own personal desires?

you have never sinned? I thought everyone sins

 

[CWayne]

Who are you to say the teaching do not make sense? Higher-order physics doesn't make sense to a six-year-old.

A cityscape painting does not make sense to a monkey. That does not mean they don't have value.

Perhaps if you put away your animous and just let then 'practice' their faith, you'll feel better.

hahhahahahahah--you people are out of your minds
this is a discussion forum, is it not?????!!!!!!
.....I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!---
again--- I'm not hindering them from practicing their faith---am I???!!!

Nor are you engaged in any constructive discussion. Here is a hint. Ridicule is not constructive discussion.

question: Jimmy Swaggart was NOT a hypocrite--yes or no?
telling the truth is NOT ridiculing

I am not Jimmy Swaggart. I don't know what it is you think he has said that makes him a hypocrite, but I see you failed to grasp the concept of "practicing faith".

....he condemned Bakker for ''sinning''--the he went and sinned.....it's not difficult to see--especially after I explained it before
hy·poc·ri·sy
/həˈpäkrəsē/
Learn to pronounce
noun

1. the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

So, if I see that killing is wrong, yet I kil someone, does that then mean that killing is okay or is it that the person who killed was unable to abide by the belief that killing is wrong?

 

[CWayne]

So, if you consider what religion really is, it is a covenant between the person and the God they believe in.

If they beleive sin is wrong. then they strive to ensure they do no wrong. An imperfect human, practicing their faith, will miss the mark. If they were perfect, and never sinned, they would have no need to practice their faith any longer.

Your 'feeling' that it does not make any sense isn't relevant to anyone but you.

....jealousy/greed/gluttony/murder/etc are all human ''traits''--we do them naturally ..so why are they sins? wrong to do??

Are you asking me why you cannot fathom why these traits are wrong?

they are not wrong to do if we were ''created'' to do them

Ah, so you have proof that we were 'created to do them'? Or are you trying to imply that our imperfections were deliberately put in us? Is this an attempt to justify your own personal desires?

you have never sinned? I thought everyone sins

I am sure I have sinned. I am a Christian, but don't go by the dogma of the church.