Religious conversions for marriage?

[Delta4Embassy]

Against it. With Judaism it's a lot more than just reciting something of course, but still.

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[saintmichaeldefendthem]

I'm against it too and for a very important reason. Religion is a core constitution for people and creates a set point to return to when the marriage breaks up....and it most likely will....but not before.....children are brought into their mess. And those children being passed between two homes of very different religious cultures can become very bitter and jaded with religion as a whole. Many of these kids decide to become atheists.

John Lennon was wrong. Love is not enough. Marital compatibility must be determined before marriage through counseling and religion is one of those issues, which is why St. Paul tells us in 1Corinthians 5 to NOT be unequally yolked with a nonbeliever.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

I'm against it too and for a very important reason. Religion is a core constitution for people and creates a set point to return to when the marriage breaks up....and it most likely will....but not before.....children are brought into their mess. And those children being passed between two homes of very different religious cultures can become very bitter and jaded with religion as a whole. Many of these kids decide to become atheists.

John Lennon was wrong. Love is not enough. Marital compatibility must be determined before marriage through counseling and religion is one of those issues, which is why St. Paul tells us in 1Corinthians 5 to NOT be unequally yolked with a nonbeliever.

For Jews, devout Catholics, and others, the religious identity comes from the mother. Can be the Prime Minister of Israel, but the father will not pass on his Jewish identity to his heirs. Hence the importance of a Jewish mother. And thus these kinds of conversions.

But any conversion done for reasons other than an individual's truly felt belief and faith shouldn't be undertaken. They're doing it for the wrong reasons. When religious identity becomes a matter of getting a key to the 'executive lockerroom' it ceases to be between the worshipper and deity, and becomes something between a worshipper and other worshippers which isn't how it should be.

 

[Avatar4321]

I think it's up to the people involved.

 

[Daniyel]

I'm against it too and for a very important reason. Religion is a core constitution for people and creates a set point to return to when the marriage breaks up....and it most likely will....but not before.....children are brought into their mess. And those children being passed between two homes of very different religious cultures can become very bitter and jaded with religion as a whole. Many of these kids decide to become atheists.

John Lennon was wrong. Love is not enough. Marital compatibility must be determined before marriage through counseling and religion is one of those issues, which is why St. Paul tells us in 1Corinthians 5 to NOT be unequally yolked with a nonbeliever.

For Jews, devout Catholics, and others, the religious identity comes from the mother. Can be the Prime Minister of Israel, but the father will not pass on his Jewish identity to his heirs. Hence the importance of a Jewish mother. And thus these kinds of conversions.

But any conversion done for reasons other than an individual's truly felt belief and faith shouldn't be undertaken. They're doing it for the wrong reasons. When religious identity becomes a matter of getting a key to the 'executive lockerroom' it ceases to be between the worshipper and deity, and becomes something between a worshipper and other worshippers which isn't how it should be.

Not necessarily - there are several verses and laws made based on them in these matters, an orthodox conversation for marriage can last over few years!
The main idea is that everyone have their own ways for reaching God and God has all the ways to reach each and every one of us, in other words if by love you'd find yourself seeking God even a little - that is a progress by all means - the Book of Rut tells the exact story, Rut and Boaz were the ancestors of King David - which is said to be the lineage of the Messiah ("Mashiah Ben David - Messiah Son of David")

 

[Delta4Embassy]

I'm against it too and for a very important reason. Religion is a core constitution for people and creates a set point to return to when the marriage breaks up....and it most likely will....but not before.....children are brought into their mess. And those children being passed between two homes of very different religious cultures can become very bitter and jaded with religion as a whole. Many of these kids decide to become atheists.

John Lennon was wrong. Love is not enough. Marital compatibility must be determined before marriage through counseling and religion is one of those issues, which is why St. Paul tells us in 1Corinthians 5 to NOT be unequally yolked with a nonbeliever.

For Jews, devout Catholics, and others, the religious identity comes from the mother. Can be the Prime Minister of Israel, but the father will not pass on his Jewish identity to his heirs. Hence the importance of a Jewish mother. And thus these kinds of conversions.

But any conversion done for reasons other than an individual's truly felt belief and faith shouldn't be undertaken. They're doing it for the wrong reasons. When religious identity becomes a matter of getting a key to the 'executive lockerroom' it ceases to be between the worshipper and deity, and becomes something between a worshipper and other worshippers which isn't how it should be.

Not necessarily - there are several verses and laws made based on them in these matters, an orthodox conversation for marriage can last over few years!
The main idea is that everyone have their own ways for reaching God and God has all the ways to reach each and every one of us, in other words if by love you'd find yourself seeking God even a little - that is a progress by all means - the Book of Rut tells the exact story, Rut and Boaz were the ancestors of King David - which is said to be the lineage of the Messiah ("Mashiah Ben David - Messiah Son of David")

Too often Jewish conversion at least is about full rights like for Aliyah. Where (last I heard anyway) only orthodox conversions are accepted. Shouldn't be about legal recognition and such. Should be about the person believing in God, the faith, and choosing to live according to God's laws. Unfortunately, it seems to be more about Man's laws than God's.

 

[Daniyel]

I'm against it too and for a very important reason. Religion is a core constitution for people and creates a set point to return to when the marriage breaks up....and it most likely will....but not before.....children are brought into their mess. And those children being passed between two homes of very different religious cultures can become very bitter and jaded with religion as a whole. Many of these kids decide to become atheists.

John Lennon was wrong. Love is not enough. Marital compatibility must be determined before marriage through counseling and religion is one of those issues, which is why St. Paul tells us in 1Corinthians 5 to NOT be unequally yolked with a nonbeliever.

For Jews, devout Catholics, and others, the religious identity comes from the mother. Can be the Prime Minister of Israel, but the father will not pass on his Jewish identity to his heirs. Hence the importance of a Jewish mother. And thus these kinds of conversions.

But any conversion done for reasons other than an individual's truly felt belief and faith shouldn't be undertaken. They're doing it for the wrong reasons. When religious identity becomes a matter of getting a key to the 'executive lockerroom' it ceases to be between the worshipper and deity, and becomes something between a worshipper and other worshippers which isn't how it should be.

Not necessarily - there are several verses and laws made based on them in these matters, an orthodox conversation for marriage can last over few years!
The main idea is that everyone have their own ways for reaching God and God has all the ways to reach each and every one of us, in other words if by love you'd find yourself seeking God even a little - that is a progress by all means - the Book of Rut tells the exact story, Rut and Boaz were the ancestors of King David - which is said to be the lineage of the Messiah ("Mashiah Ben David - Messiah Son of David")

Too often Jewish conversion at least is about full rights like for Aliyah. Where (last I heard anyway) only orthodox conversions are accepted. Shouldn't be about legal recognition and such. Should be about the person believing in God, the faith, and choosing to live according to God's laws. Unfortunately, it seems to be more about Man's laws than God's.

That is a very complex issue if you're talking about Aliyah, technically I tend to agree with you however because of its nature I'd recommend you researching about it yourself.
A Jewish identity by state law is even one that can prove his grandfather was a Jew, by religions it's a whole different subject, by self determination it's even a bigger issue.
The major issue is between state law and religion while everyone can claim for self determination and tackle with state law and religion.
So if you find any specific questions I wouldn't mind helping you out, but to get the whole picture you should research that yourself.