Rep. Nancy Mace, a first-term Republican from South Carolina, has introduced a bill to decriminalize cannabis at the federal level

[MinTrut]

prove me wrong min.....

Freeing oneself from cults/addictions is an inside job Har...

 

[MinTrut]

Alcohol and nicotine are far more addictive.

Whataboutism.

People die from alcohol poisoning every day, but I have never heard of anyone dying from a marijuana overdose.

Pot is an INCREDIBLY dangerous and addictive drug, but the addict simply doesn't care who gets hurt.

All the addict cares about?

Their fix.

 

[FA_Q2]

Criminal drug cartels from Mexico have operated in California, Oregon and Washington, for example and
doubtlessly elsewhere, for DECADES whether weed was legal or not.

The argument that legalizing marijuana would end the criminal cartels dealing in weed in this nation is a tiresome lie and it should be retired permanently.

Because all those bootleggers and speakeasies continued to be prevalent after booze was legalized, right?

Oh, they didn't! What a shocker.

Black markets are actually rather well understood. There is no question whatsoever that a legal market would almost obliterate the black market for MJ almost instantly. The black market that remains will not even be worth commenting on, just like bootleggers of booze are virtually nonexistent. They minute black market for booze is utterly irrelevant.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

^ Whataboutism.

Pot is an INCREDIBLY dangerous and addictive drug.

Less so than dangerous than alcohol and less addictive than caffeine.

If you do not wish to use pot, do not use pot. But quit being a little fascist telling people what they should and should not do

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Pot is an INCREDIBLY dangerous and addictive drug,

You keep parroting this lie as if you telling it enough will make it true....it has not worked yet.

 

[Polishprince]

Because all those bootleggers and speakeasies continued to be prevalent after booze was legalized, right?

Oh, they didn't! What a shocker.

Black markets are actually rather well understood. There is no question whatsoever that a legal market would almost obliterate the black market for MJ almost instantly. The black market that remains will not even be worth commenting on, just like bootleggers of booze are virtually nonexistent. They minute black market for booze is utterly irrelevant.

It really depends, FA, on the amount of taxes and regulation that are imposed on the Grass racket when prohibition is lifted. If the taxes are out of sight, more than the cost of production, legal grass will actually provide a boon to the racketeers- much like they do with cigarettes in the modern age.

But if pot is easily available at Mom and Pop's or at Walmart, CVS and Sheetz, and mom's can send their kids down to the local bodega with a note to pick up their fix- there really won't be a black market.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Its a drug.

So is alcohol. And?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Freeing oneself from cults/addictions is an inside job Har...

you didnt prove me wrong.....

 

[Blues Man]

By that metric, opium and coca should be legal.

Why not?

Coca leaves themselves are just a little more of a stimulant than caffeine or nicotine.

I've had coca leaf tea in South America and I even chewed a small wad of leaves while hiking at high altitudes. The natives have been doing that for centuries

 

[Blues Man]

Pot: Incredibly dangerous and addictive.

Addicts: Don't care who gets hurt as long as they get their fix.

No it's not.

Alcohol is more addcitive and you c an die from alcohol withdrawal

 

[Blues Man]

While I think marijuana should be legal the "it's just a plant" argument is pretty weak. Many natural poisons are "just plants".

and yet no one is stopping you from growing foxglove or castor beans

 

[FA_Q2]

It really depends, FA, on the amount of taxes and regulation that are imposed on the Grass racket when prohibition is lifted. If the taxes are out of sight, more than the cost of production, legal grass will actually provide a boon to the racketeers- much like they do with cigarettes in the modern age.

But if pot is easily available at Mom and Pop's or at Walmart, CVS and Sheetz, and mom's can send their kids down to the local bodega with a note to pick up their fix- there really won't be a black market.

Whilst you cannot send your kids to pick up your 'fix,' everywhere it has been legalized has made it easy to acquire and the black market has disappeared. We are not talking about theories here, we are talking about things that are actually happening around us and have happened in the past.

There is no illegal market for booze worth mentioning. The day pot is legalized, there will be no illegal market for it worth mentioning as well.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

While I think marijuana should be legal the "it's just a plant" argument is pretty weak. Many natural poisons are "just plants".

It is a plant, just like western hemlock, death caps, oleanders etc.

 

[Harry Dresden]

It really depends, FA, on the amount of taxes and regulation that are imposed on the Grass racket when prohibition is lifted. If the taxes are out of sight, more than the cost of production, legal grass will actually provide a boon to the racketeers- much like they do with cigarettes in the modern age.

But if pot is easily available at Mom and Pop's or at Walmart, CVS and Sheetz, and mom's can send their kids down to the local bodega with a note to pick up their fix- there really won't be a black market.

in nevada you cant send your kid down to pick up pot....unless they are 21.....im sure its the same elsewhere....

 

[FA_Q2]

Why not?

Coca leaves themselves are just a little more of a stimulant than caffeine or nicotine.

I've had coca leaf tea in South America and I even chewed a small wad of leaves while hiking at high altitudes. The natives have been doing that for centuries

Is it not rather telling that they keep coming up with other things that should also be legalized and the fact is... they should. Almost like they want to make the case for us.

The very concept of freedom is wasted on the vast majority of the American people.

 

[Blues Man]

in nevada you cant send your kid down to pick up pot....unless they are 21.....im sure its the same elsewhere....

You can't even walk into a dispensary without ID.

In fact I have to show my ID 3 times.

Once outside at the door
Once inside the lobby before they buzz me in again before I pay.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Smoking a fatty occasionally is probably safer than 99 percent of the pharmaceuticals that people take every day. I don't smoke the stuff but just a little perspective. Pretty sure smoking a j doesn't cause heart attacks, blood clots, and strokes.

 

[Harry Dresden]

You can't even walk into a dispensary without ID.

In fact I have to show my ID 3 times.

Once outside at the door
Once inside the lobby before they buzz me in again before I pay.

twice for me....getting into the parking lot and again at the entrance to the store.....

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Pot: Incredibly dangerous and addictive.

Addicts: Don't care who gets hurt as long as they get their fix.

I feel like I should not need to say this in an adult forum, but not everyone that uses pot is an addict, in fact the vast, vast majority that do are not addicts just as the vast, vast majority of people that drink a beer or a glass of whine are not alcoholics.

I would actually like for you to provide some sort of evidence anyone is actually addicted to pot

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So is alcohol. And?

and caffeine and nicotine and ....