Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

[berg80]

"As the U.S. begins to see the light at the end of the Trumpian tunnel, it is time to begin thinking about the issue of repair. One should not assume the result of the election, but it is nonetheless worth asking the question: What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

Of Trump’s many excesses, his assault on legal norms has to rank high in terms of damage to fundamental values that form the fabric of America. His attacks on the free press, the independent judiciary and the independence of the Department of Justice have all created significant damage. His abuse of executive discretionary authority has made a mockery of the concept of checks and balances. His gaming of the judicial system has revealed weaknesses in our legal process. His attempts to place himself (and his family and his business interests) above the law have called into question foundational national conceptions of equal justice. In short, President Trump has led a wrecking crew (aided and abetted by William Barr and Mitch McConnell) that has severely damaged American legal norms of behavior."

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfareblog.com

I've heard a number of suggestions along the lines of what should be done. Some including a commission to identify weakness in the laws governing a prez's behavior Trump has exploited. Some recommending a type of tribunal to hold people like Billy the Bagman accountable for the extra-legal path he has taken the DoJ down.

Whatever the method one thing is clear. The US can never allow legal and ethical ambiguities to enable a prez to abuse the office as the Orange Menace has.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

"As the U.S. begins to see the light at the end of the Trumpian tunnel, it is time to begin thinking about the issue of repair. One should not assume the result of the election, but it is nonetheless worth asking the question: What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

Of Trump’s many excesses, his assault on legal norms has to rank high in terms of damage to fundamental values that form the fabric of America. His attacks on the free press, the independent judiciary and the independence of the Department of Justice have all created significant damage. His abuse of executive discretionary authority has made a mockery of the concept of checks and balances. His gaming of the judicial system has revealed weaknesses in our legal process. His attempts to place himself (and his family and his business interests) above the law have called into question foundational national conceptions of equal justice. In short, President Trump has led a wrecking crew (aided and abetted by William Barr and Mitch McConnell) that has severely damaged American legal norms of behavior."

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfareblog.com

I've heard a number of suggestions along the lines of what should be done. Some including a commission to identify weakness in the laws governing a prez's behavior Trump has exploited. Some recommending a type of tribunal to hold people like Billy the Bagman accountable for the extra-legal path he has taken the DoJ down.

Whatever the method one thing is clear. The US can never allow legal and ethical ambiguities to enable a prez to abuse the office as the Orange Menace has.

What is interesting is that what the president has done, is the relinquishing of powers to the president by the feckless Congress under then Obama. Didnt seem that you Progs had any problem with that, until the sick bitch Hitlery lost and it was found out how corrupt the swamp creatures are still in that government entity with the ABOVE THE LAW , Nan from San Fransicko, doing what she does while telling everyone else not to.

 

[the other mike]

one thing is clear.

Obama shattered the rule of law, you hypocrite.

 

[FA_Q2]

Because, obviously this asinine abuse of the office started with Trump. Its not like previous administration have not killed coutless people in wars that have not been autorized, used the power of the office to take down reporters and their sources, presided over massively illegal spying programs or run agencies that directly lied to judges to obtain illegal warrants. Nope.

All Trump.

 

[danielpalos]

"As the U.S. begins to see the light at the end of the Trumpian tunnel, it is time to begin thinking about the issue of repair. One should not assume the result of the election, but it is nonetheless worth asking the question: What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

Of Trump’s many excesses, his assault on legal norms has to rank high in terms of damage to fundamental values that form the fabric of America. His attacks on the free press, the independent judiciary and the independence of the Department of Justice have all created significant damage. His abuse of executive discretionary authority has made a mockery of the concept of checks and balances. His gaming of the judicial system has revealed weaknesses in our legal process. His attempts to place himself (and his family and his business interests) above the law have called into question foundational national conceptions of equal justice. In short, President Trump has led a wrecking crew (aided and abetted by William Barr and Mitch McConnell) that has severely damaged American legal norms of behavior."

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfareblog.com

I've heard a number of suggestions along the lines of what should be done. Some including a commission to identify weakness in the laws governing a prez's behavior Trump has exploited. Some recommending a type of tribunal to hold people like Billy the Bagman accountable for the extra-legal path he has taken the DoJ down.

Whatever the method one thing is clear. The US can never allow legal and ethical ambiguities to enable a prez to abuse the office as the Orange Menace has.

Just one more reason to vote blue and not red. Why should anyone expect the right wing to change their tune after four years of their guy.

 

[berg80]

"Back in 2012 (before the age of Trump), I thought this grant of emergency authority was a wise decision, writing that “any President of either party should not be presumed to exercise powers granted in a dictatorial way.” And in the run-up to Trump’s election, I wondered if we could extend the same presumption to a putative President Trump.

Today, the answer to that question seems obvious. The fundamental norm to presume a lack of malevolent intent is now in doubt. And that, in turn, means that the entire postwar architecture of federal power—congressional legislation backed by executive discretion—is also in doubt."

 

[danielpalos]

"As the U.S. begins to see the light at the end of the Trumpian tunnel, it is time to begin thinking about the issue of repair. One should not assume the result of the election, but it is nonetheless worth asking the question: What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

Of Trump’s many excesses, his assault on legal norms has to rank high in terms of damage to fundamental values that form the fabric of America. His attacks on the free press, the independent judiciary and the independence of the Department of Justice have all created significant damage. His abuse of executive discretionary authority has made a mockery of the concept of checks and balances. His gaming of the judicial system has revealed weaknesses in our legal process. His attempts to place himself (and his family and his business interests) above the law have called into question foundational national conceptions of equal justice. In short, President Trump has led a wrecking crew (aided and abetted by William Barr and Mitch McConnell) that has severely damaged American legal norms of behavior."

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfareblog.com

I've heard a number of suggestions along the lines of what should be done. Some including a commission to identify weakness in the laws governing a prez's behavior Trump has exploited. Some recommending a type of tribunal to hold people like Billy the Bagman accountable for the extra-legal path he has taken the DoJ down.

Whatever the method one thing is clear. The US can never allow legal and ethical ambiguities to enable a prez to abuse the office as the Orange Menace has.

What is interesting is that what the president has done, is the relinquishing of powers to the president by the feckless Congress under then Obama. Didnt seem that you Progs had any problem with that, until the sick bitch Hitlery lost and it was found out how corrupt the swamp creatures are still in that government entity with the ABOVE THE LAW , Nan from San Fransicko, doing what she does while telling everyone else not to.

Yes, the democrats should be minding their P's and Q's, especially if it would compare and contrast more favorably for the left.

What the right wing forgets is that Obama actually understood our Constitution and was able to practice diplomacy.

 

[Dana7360]

"As the U.S. begins to see the light at the end of the Trumpian tunnel, it is time to begin thinking about the issue of repair. One should not assume the result of the election, but it is nonetheless worth asking the question: What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

Of Trump’s many excesses, his assault on legal norms has to rank high in terms of damage to fundamental values that form the fabric of America. His attacks on the free press, the independent judiciary and the independence of the Department of Justice have all created significant damage. His abuse of executive discretionary authority has made a mockery of the concept of checks and balances. His gaming of the judicial system has revealed weaknesses in our legal process. His attempts to place himself (and his family and his business interests) above the law have called into question foundational national conceptions of equal justice. In short, President Trump has led a wrecking crew (aided and abetted by William Barr and Mitch McConnell) that has severely damaged American legal norms of behavior."

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfareblog.com

I've heard a number of suggestions along the lines of what should be done. Some including a commission to identify weakness in the laws governing a prez's behavior Trump has exploited. Some recommending a type of tribunal to hold people like Billy the Bagman accountable for the extra-legal path he has taken the DoJ down.

Whatever the method one thing is clear. The US can never allow legal and ethical ambiguities to enable a prez to abuse the office as the Orange Menace has.

A good place to start is to make crimes like violating the emoluments clause a federal felony.

Another is to make it a federal felony to not impose the full force of our laws and constitution when it's violated. So anyone who doesn't prosecute a criminal then becomes a criminal. So that things like when the Hatch Act and the emoluments clause are violated, those who violated those laws are properly prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Our election and donation laws need to be reformed.

Money isn't speech and a business isn't a human being.

Citizens United needs to be repealed along with most of our campaign finance laws and replaced with fair and just laws. So that the rich are no longer able to buy politicians to do their bidding.

Lobbying should be outlawed. If you honestly have an issue with a politician who represents you, do what the rest of us are forced to do. Send them an email or US Mail letter. Or attend political functions.

We no longer have a democratic republic in America. We are a country of the rich, by the rich and for the rich.

 

[berg80]

A good place to start is to make crimes like violating the emoluments clause a federal felony.

From the article...........

Define emoluments violations and create a right of action. Since the day President Trump took office, he has faced legal challenges for violations of the foreign and domestic emoluments clauses of the Constitution. Together, the clauses prohibit government officers, including the president, from accepting payments or benefits from a foreign state or from the federal government, unless authorized by Congress. The ongoing lawsuits challenge the president’s decision not to divest from his business assets when he took office. By and large these suits have failed for lack of standing, or a cause of action. Congress can pass a law creating a right of action for injured parties (whether Congress itself, or those whose businesses compete with the president’s or those who are injured by actions the president takes in response to receiving such a gift) and define liquidated damages.

 

[22lcidw]

"As the U.S. begins to see the light at the end of the Trumpian tunnel, it is time to begin thinking about the issue of repair. One should not assume the result of the election, but it is nonetheless worth asking the question: What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

Of Trump’s many excesses, his assault on legal norms has to rank high in terms of damage to fundamental values that form the fabric of America. His attacks on the free press, the independent judiciary and the independence of the Department of Justice have all created significant damage. His abuse of executive discretionary authority has made a mockery of the concept of checks and balances. His gaming of the judicial system has revealed weaknesses in our legal process. His attempts to place himself (and his family and his business interests) above the law have called into question foundational national conceptions of equal justice. In short, President Trump has led a wrecking crew (aided and abetted by William Barr and Mitch McConnell) that has severely damaged American legal norms of behavior."

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfareblog.com

I've heard a number of suggestions along the lines of what should be done. Some including a commission to identify weakness in the laws governing a prez's behavior Trump has exploited. Some recommending a type of tribunal to hold people like Billy the Bagman accountable for the extra-legal path he has taken the DoJ down.

Whatever the method one thing is clear. The US can never allow legal and ethical ambiguities to enable a prez to abuse the office as the Orange Menace has.

Just one more reason to vote blue and not red. Why should anyone expect the right wing to change their tune after four years of their guy.

To me, what that poster spewed is just Prog propaganda. In your haste to call Trump a liar, you forgot why he was elected.

 

[berg80]

The thread is based on extremely thoughtful, what should be uncontroversial recommendations that I believe would have bipartisan support.

Unfortunately, Trumpleheads will not read it because of their reflexive defense of anything to do with Dear Leader.

 

[Oldestyle]

"As the U.S. begins to see the light at the end of the Trumpian tunnel, it is time to begin thinking about the issue of repair. One should not assume the result of the election, but it is nonetheless worth asking the question: What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

Of Trump’s many excesses, his assault on legal norms has to rank high in terms of damage to fundamental values that form the fabric of America. His attacks on the free press, the independent judiciary and the independence of the Department of Justice have all created significant damage. His abuse of executive discretionary authority has made a mockery of the concept of checks and balances. His gaming of the judicial system has revealed weaknesses in our legal process. His attempts to place himself (and his family and his business interests) above the law have called into question foundational national conceptions of equal justice. In short, President Trump has led a wrecking crew (aided and abetted by William Barr and Mitch McConnell) that has severely damaged American legal norms of behavior."

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfareblog.com

I've heard a number of suggestions along the lines of what should be done. Some including a commission to identify weakness in the laws governing a prez's behavior Trump has exploited. Some recommending a type of tribunal to hold people like Billy the Bagman accountable for the extra-legal path he has taken the DoJ down.

Whatever the method one thing is clear. The US can never allow legal and ethical ambiguities to enable a prez to abuse the office as the Orange Menace has.

What is interesting is that what the president has done, is the relinquishing of powers to the president by the feckless Congress under then Obama. Didnt seem that you Progs had any problem with that, until the sick bitch Hitlery lost and it was found out how corrupt the swamp creatures are still in that government entity with the ABOVE THE LAW , Nan from San Fransicko, doing what she does while telling everyone else not to.

Yes, the democrats should be minding their P's and Q's, especially if it would compare and contrast more favorably for the left.

What the right wing forgets is that Obama actually understood our Constitution and was able to practice diplomacy.

Oh, Barry understood it all right but that didn't stop him from shitting on it more than any President we've ever had! Using the IRS against political opponents? Spying on the press? Lying to FISA courts to get wiretaps on political opponents?

 

[berg80]

"As the U.S. begins to see the light at the end of the Trumpian tunnel, it is time to begin thinking about the issue of repair. One should not assume the result of the election, but it is nonetheless worth asking the question: What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

Of Trump’s many excesses, his assault on legal norms has to rank high in terms of damage to fundamental values that form the fabric of America. His attacks on the free press, the independent judiciary and the independence of the Department of Justice have all created significant damage. His abuse of executive discretionary authority has made a mockery of the concept of checks and balances. His gaming of the judicial system has revealed weaknesses in our legal process. His attempts to place himself (and his family and his business interests) above the law have called into question foundational national conceptions of equal justice. In short, President Trump has led a wrecking crew (aided and abetted by William Barr and Mitch McConnell) that has severely damaged American legal norms of behavior."

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfareblog.com

I've heard a number of suggestions along the lines of what should be done. Some including a commission to identify weakness in the laws governing a prez's behavior Trump has exploited. Some recommending a type of tribunal to hold people like Billy the Bagman accountable for the extra-legal path he has taken the DoJ down.

Whatever the method one thing is clear. The US can never allow legal and ethical ambiguities to enable a prez to abuse the office as the Orange Menace has.

Just one more reason to vote blue and not red. Why should anyone expect the right wing to change their tune after four years of their guy.

To me, what that poster spewed is just Prog propaganda. In your haste to call Trump a liar, you forgot why he was elected.

What objections do you have to................

Reform of the Federal Vacancies Reform Act to prevent perpetual “acting” appointments.

Mandatory disclosure of presidential candidate tax returns and strengthening of presidential financial disclosure.

Redefining “emergency” authority to limit such declarations generally.

Enhanced inspectors general protection.

 

[berg80]

"As the U.S. begins to see the light at the end of the Trumpian tunnel, it is time to begin thinking about the issue of repair. One should not assume the result of the election, but it is nonetheless worth asking the question: What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

Of Trump’s many excesses, his assault on legal norms has to rank high in terms of damage to fundamental values that form the fabric of America. His attacks on the free press, the independent judiciary and the independence of the Department of Justice have all created significant damage. His abuse of executive discretionary authority has made a mockery of the concept of checks and balances. His gaming of the judicial system has revealed weaknesses in our legal process. His attempts to place himself (and his family and his business interests) above the law have called into question foundational national conceptions of equal justice. In short, President Trump has led a wrecking crew (aided and abetted by William Barr and Mitch McConnell) that has severely damaged American legal norms of behavior."

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfareblog.com

I've heard a number of suggestions along the lines of what should be done. Some including a commission to identify weakness in the laws governing a prez's behavior Trump has exploited. Some recommending a type of tribunal to hold people like Billy the Bagman accountable for the extra-legal path he has taken the DoJ down.

Whatever the method one thing is clear. The US can never allow legal and ethical ambiguities to enable a prez to abuse the office as the Orange Menace has.

What is interesting is that what the president has done, is the relinquishing of powers to the president by the feckless Congress under then Obama. Didnt seem that you Progs had any problem with that, until the sick bitch Hitlery lost and it was found out how corrupt the swamp creatures are still in that government entity with the ABOVE THE LAW , Nan from San Fransicko, doing what she does while telling everyone else not to.

Yes, the democrats should be minding their P's and Q's, especially if it would compare and contrast more favorably for the left.

What the right wing forgets is that Obama actually understood our Constitution and was able to practice diplomacy.

Oh, Barry understood it all right but that didn't stop him from shitting on it more than any President we've ever had! Using the IRS against political opponents? Spying on the press? Lying to FISA courts to get wiretaps on political opponents?

Holy cow, stop with the idiotic replies and at least read some of the article.

 

[Oldestyle]

What's laughable is that compared to Barack Obama's administration, Trump has been squeaky clean yet you're here with this nonsense about having to "repair" the rule of law?

 

[Oldestyle]

"As the U.S. begins to see the light at the end of the Trumpian tunnel, it is time to begin thinking about the issue of repair. One should not assume the result of the election, but it is nonetheless worth asking the question: What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

Of Trump’s many excesses, his assault on legal norms has to rank high in terms of damage to fundamental values that form the fabric of America. His attacks on the free press, the independent judiciary and the independence of the Department of Justice have all created significant damage. His abuse of executive discretionary authority has made a mockery of the concept of checks and balances. His gaming of the judicial system has revealed weaknesses in our legal process. His attempts to place himself (and his family and his business interests) above the law have called into question foundational national conceptions of equal justice. In short, President Trump has led a wrecking crew (aided and abetted by William Barr and Mitch McConnell) that has severely damaged American legal norms of behavior."

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfareblog.com

I've heard a number of suggestions along the lines of what should be done. Some including a commission to identify weakness in the laws governing a prez's behavior Trump has exploited. Some recommending a type of tribunal to hold people like Billy the Bagman accountable for the extra-legal path he has taken the DoJ down.

Whatever the method one thing is clear. The US can never allow legal and ethical ambiguities to enable a prez to abuse the office as the Orange Menace has.

What is interesting is that what the president has done, is the relinquishing of powers to the president by the feckless Congress under then Obama. Didnt seem that you Progs had any problem with that, until the sick bitch Hitlery lost and it was found out how corrupt the swamp creatures are still in that government entity with the ABOVE THE LAW , Nan from San Fransicko, doing what she does while telling everyone else not to.

Yes, the democrats should be minding their P's and Q's, especially if it would compare and contrast more favorably for the left.

What the right wing forgets is that Obama actually understood our Constitution and was able to practice diplomacy.

Oh, Barry understood it all right but that didn't stop him from shitting on it more than any President we've ever had! Using the IRS against political opponents? Spying on the press? Lying to FISA courts to get wiretaps on political opponents?

Holy cow, stop with the idiotic replies and at least read some of the article.

The article is idiotic! How many times do you want me to read it? The premise is built on bullshit.

 

[berg80]

Minimum qualifications for White House staff. In several cases, the Trump administration has gone out of its way to marginalize expertise at the highest levels of government, particularly within the White House staff. The president tasked his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, a 39-year-old real estate magnate, with everything from brokering peace in the Middle East to solving the opioid crisis and managing the country’s response to the coronavirus pandemic. Another example is the White House’s hiring of a college senior to a top position in the Presidential Personnel Office. Both Kushner’s ever-present role and the improbable ascension of the George Washington University student are possible because the law governing the hiring of White House staff does not impose any minimum qualification requirements for their positions. It seems clear that, as with other positions in government, Congress could provide for certain minimum qualifications that would be required. It is possible that this change might run afoul of presidents’ authority to designate their own staffs, but it’s hard to doubt the reasonableness of the proposal.

 

[berg80]

What's laughable is that compared to Barack Obama's administration, Trump has been squeaky clean

 

[22lcidw]

"As the U.S. begins to see the light at the end of the Trumpian tunnel, it is time to begin thinking about the issue of repair. One should not assume the result of the election, but it is nonetheless worth asking the question: What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

Of Trump’s many excesses, his assault on legal norms has to rank high in terms of damage to fundamental values that form the fabric of America. His attacks on the free press, the independent judiciary and the independence of the Department of Justice have all created significant damage. His abuse of executive discretionary authority has made a mockery of the concept of checks and balances. His gaming of the judicial system has revealed weaknesses in our legal process. His attempts to place himself (and his family and his business interests) above the law have called into question foundational national conceptions of equal justice. In short, President Trump has led a wrecking crew (aided and abetted by William Barr and Mitch McConnell) that has severely damaged American legal norms of behavior."

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfareblog.com

I've heard a number of suggestions along the lines of what should be done. Some including a commission to identify weakness in the laws governing a prez's behavior Trump has exploited. Some recommending a type of tribunal to hold people like Billy the Bagman accountable for the extra-legal path he has taken the DoJ down.

Whatever the method one thing is clear. The US can never allow legal and ethical ambiguities to enable a prez to abuse the office as the Orange Menace has.

Just one more reason to vote blue and not red. Why should anyone expect the right wing to change their tune after four years of their guy.

To me, what that poster spewed is just Prog propaganda. In your haste to call Trump a liar, you forgot why he was elected.

What objections do you have to................

Reform of the Federal Vacancies Reform Act to prevent perpetual “acting” appointments.

Mandatory disclosure of presidential candidate tax returns and strengthening of presidential financial disclosure.

Redefining “emergency” authority to limit such declarations generally.

Enhanced inspectors general protection.

Belief! If any of this true. Are Progs innocent of this also? In fact they work at an advantage because most of them think alike. So they do not have to communicate as much. Trump has met with vile venom since before the 2016 election. You have given him a forced base of people due to it. And you certainly would not let anything or anyone do that to Obama. And Obama had 95% of everything on his side.

 

[Oldestyle]

What's laughable is that compared to Barack Obama's administration, Trump has been squeaky clean

You know what amuses me about you, Berg? You have that George Orwell quote accompanying every post you make...yet you can't seem to see that the Democratic Party have turned into the pigs from Animal Farm. In their eyes all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others! It's a mindset that lets them do things like corrupt the IRS and the FBI for political reasons and lie to a FISA court. It's why Nancy Pelosi thinks it's OK for HER to get a beauty treatment but not you or I!