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They CARE about the leading israel lobby backlash & defense contractor , campaign $$$ oh naive one.At least they are showing that they CARE more about the country than party politics. What do WE get out of a nuclear Iran??? What is the benefit/risk ratio?ChrisL
Going to keep trying to use partisan attacks because I think President Obama is a moron, which he is. Face facts, he is a want to be celebrity who has no CLUE.
nitwit said:See. Siete, you're correct...there's really no winning an argument with these dolts.....
Notice, however, that they offer NOTHING as an alternative to what Obama may be proposing.....
Their only "contributions" boil down to this:
1. MORE sanctions (these are the "moderates" among the hawks.....As if sanctions have ever worked.)
2. If more sanctions are imposed and folks in China and Russia violate those sanctions, then these dingbats clamor for a cold war with those other 2 super-powers. Yep, no problems there, right?
3. The real "brainy" hawks then state...NUKE the bastards.....and we all know where that little scenario would lead us.
Again, bottom line is that these hawks are here just to express their hatred of Obama...pissing in the wind and thinking that such piss is manna from heaven.
nitwit thinks that straightforward opposition to what Obumbler proposes is not sufficient.
Obumbler -- like many of the liberals here -- contend that there is some kind of inevitability to Iran acquiring nuclear weapons capacity.
Opposition to that kind of defeatism is its own reward.
Dingbat...what you call [empty] opposition is a refusal of REALITY (which is yet another definition of your ilk's delusion.)
Soooooo, exactly what IS your way of avoiding that "inevitability"?
Will North Korea all of a sudden not want to help Iran.
Will Russia....just out of Putin's good will.....all of a sudden want to stop helping Iran (and Syria.)?
Will China stop buying Iran's oil lest they use that money for furthering their nuclear ambitions?
We could impose SANCTIONS on them. We give them ALL aid money. I know we gave NK aid money up until 2008. I'm not sure if we are still giving them money.
nitwit said:See. Siete, you're correct...there's really no winning an argument with these dolts.....
Notice, however, that they offer NOTHING as an alternative to what Obama may be proposing.....
Their only "contributions" boil down to this:
1. MORE sanctions (these are the "moderates" among the hawks.....As if sanctions have ever worked.)
2. If more sanctions are imposed and folks in China and Russia violate those sanctions, then these dingbats clamor for a cold war with those other 2 super-powers. Yep, no problems there, right?
3. The real "brainy" hawks then state...NUKE the bastards.....and we all know where that little scenario would lead us.
Again, bottom line is that these hawks are here just to express their hatred of Obama...pissing in the wind and thinking that such piss is manna from heaven.
nitwit thinks that straightforward opposition to what Obumbler proposes is not sufficient.
Obumbler -- like many of the liberals here -- contend that there is some kind of inevitability to Iran acquiring nuclear weapons capacity.
Opposition to that kind of defeatism is its own reward.
Dingbat...what you call [empty] opposition is a refusal of REALITY (which is yet another definition of your ilk's delusion.)
Soooooo, exactly what IS your way of avoiding that "inevitability"?
Will North Korea all of a sudden not want to help Iran.
Will Russia....just out of Putin's good will.....all of a sudden want to stop helping Iran (and Syria.)?
Will China stop buying Iran's oil lest they use that money for furthering their nuclear ambitions?
We could impose SANCTIONS on them. We give them ALL aid money. I know we gave NK aid money up until 2008. I'm not sure if we are still giving them money.
The sanctions are imposed internationally. If we walk away, so do the sanctions.
List of United Nations resolutions concerning Iran - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
nitwit said:See. Siete, you're correct...there's really no winning an argument with these dolts.....
Notice, however, that they offer NOTHING as an alternative to what Obama may be proposing.....
Their only "contributions" boil down to this:
1. MORE sanctions (these are the "moderates" among the hawks.....As if sanctions have ever worked.)
2. If more sanctions are imposed and folks in China and Russia violate those sanctions, then these dingbats clamor for a cold war with those other 2 super-powers. Yep, no problems there, right?
3. The real "brainy" hawks then state...NUKE the bastards.....and we all know where that little scenario would lead us.
Again, bottom line is that these hawks are here just to express their hatred of Obama...pissing in the wind and thinking that such piss is manna from heaven.
nitwit thinks that straightforward opposition to what Obumbler proposes is not sufficient.
Obumbler -- like many of the liberals here -- contend that there is some kind of inevitability to Iran acquiring nuclear weapons capacity.
Opposition to that kind of defeatism is its own reward.
Dingbat...what you call [empty] opposition is a refusal of REALITY (which is yet another definition of your ilk's delusion.)
Soooooo, exactly what IS your way of avoiding that "inevitability"?
Will North Korea all of a sudden not want to help Iran.
Will Russia....just out of Putin's good will.....all of a sudden want to stop helping Iran (and Syria.)?
Will China stop buying Iran's oil lest they use that money for furthering their nuclear ambitions?
We could impose SANCTIONS on them. We give them ALL aid money. I know we gave NK aid money up until 2008. I'm not sure if we are still giving them money.
The sanctions are imposed internationally. If we walk away, so do the sanctions.
List of United Nations resolutions concerning Iran - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
IIar 10986130Obumbler -- like many of the liberals here -- contend that there is some kind of inevitability to Iran acquiring nuclear weapons capacity.
Obama contends that an agreement allows 1 year breakout time to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear capacity. That includes bombing their facilities long before nuclear capacity is achieved,
Your statement is a lie. It is not inevitable.
Agree. It's the conservative way, the truth will set them free from power and elected office.
nitwit said:* * * *
Dingbat...what you call [empty] opposition is a refusal of REALITY (which is yet another definition of your ilk's delusion.)
Soooooo, exactly what IS your way of avoiding that "inevitability"?
nitwit said:Will North Korea all of a sudden not want to help Iran.
Will Russia....just out of Putin's good will.....all of a sudden want to stop helping Iran (and Syria.)?
Will China stop buying Iran's oil lest they use that money for furthering their nuclear ambitions?
I don't read your links, Chris, because you are an ideologue who bases his beliefs on emotions and your assumptions of other cultures. Yes, the sanctions have to go through the UN. However, the point is that if other countries see the US as the party that said NYET, they are not going to be willing to continue hurting their own economic well being by continuing the sanctions, either legally or illegally. And the notion of using "unilateral sanctions" to influence Russia or China is ludicrous, if that was what you suggested.
Why don't we wait to see what's actually proposed before trashing it.
I don't read your links, Chris, because you are an ideologue who bases his beliefs on emotions and your assumptions of other cultures. Yes, the sanctions have to go through the UN. However, the point is that if other countries see the US as the party that said NYET, they are not going to be willing to continue hurting their own economic well being by continuing the sanctions, either legally or illegally. And the notion of using "unilateral sanctions" to influence Russia or China is ludicrous, if that was what you suggested.
Why don't we wait to see what's actually proposed before trashing it.
And that intelligence agency has said Iran has not weaponized their nuclear program.Good. If anyone would know the most about Iran, it would be Israel because of their excellent intelligence. Why would we NOT listen to them? They are our ally like it or not.
See. Siete, you're correct...there's really no winning an argument with these dolts.....
Notice, however, that they offer NOTHING as an alternative to what Obama may be proposing.....
Their only "contributions" boil down to this:
1. MORE sanctions (these are the "moderates" among the hawks.....As if sanctions have ever worked.)
2. If more sanctions are imposed and folks in China and Russia violate those sanctions, then these dingbats clamor for a cold war with those other 2 super-powers. Yep, no problems there, right?
3. The real "brainy" hawks then state...NUKE the bastards.....and we all know where that little scenario would lead us.
Again, bottom line is that these hawks are here just to express their hatred of Obama...pissing in the wind and thinking that such piss is manna from heaven.
And that intelligence agency has said Iran has not weaponized their nuclear program.Good. If anyone would know the most about Iran, it would be Israel because of their excellent intelligence. Why would we NOT listen to them? They are our ally like it or not.
Benjamin Netanyahu claim on Iran nuclear bomb was contradicted by Israel intelligence agency Mossad: report
For those on this thread who can think on their own......
If you really discern what right wing idiots are stating, you too will see that the ONLY thing that they're suggesting is to do NOTHING.....
"Oppose this agreement," they'll shout, and propose NOTHING....
The other "bright" right wingers will also shout, MORE sanctions, as if that has helped, and since we don't trade with Iran (except, maybe, for pistacchios), these other nitwits want for China and Russia to impose these additional sanctions (which they won't do.)....OR, they want for these sanctions to come from our allies (France, Germany, UK) who by now have concluded that with tea-baggers in congress, they best work out their own deal with Iran beacuse our country has become so partisan that, as Pogo wisely stated, "the enemy is us."
For those on this thread who can think on their own......
If you really discern what right wing idiots are stating, you too will see that the ONLY thing that they're suggesting is to do NOTHING.....
"Oppose this agreement," they'll shout, and propose NOTHING....
The other "bright" right wingers will also shout, MORE sanctions, as if that has helped, and since we don't trade with Iran (except, maybe, for pistacchios), these other nitwits want for China and Russia to impose these additional sanctions (which they won't do.)....OR, they want for these sanctions to come from our allies (France, Germany, UK) who by now have concluded that with tea-baggers in congress, they best work out their own deal with Iran beacuse our country has become so partisan that, as Pogo wisely stated, "the enemy is us."
For those on this thread who can think on their own......
If you really discern what right wing idiots are stating, you too will see that the ONLY thing that they're suggesting is to do NOTHING.....
"Oppose this agreement," they'll shout, and propose NOTHING....
The other "bright" right wingers will also shout, MORE sanctions, as if that has helped, and since we don't trade with Iran (except, maybe, for pistacchios), these other nitwits want for China and Russia to impose these additional sanctions (which they won't do.)....OR, they want for these sanctions to come from our allies (France, Germany, UK) who by now have concluded that with tea-baggers in congress, they best work out their own deal with Iran beacuse our country has become so partisan that, as Pogo wisely stated, "the enemy is us."
The point is, there shouldn't be any sanctions at all. Iran hasn't done anything wrong. And they have every right in the world to enrich uranium for peaceful energy purposes.The point is not how far off they are from making a bomb. The point is that if we lift sanctions, then they are allowed to collect and enrich uranium. What do you NOT understand about that? Right now, there are sanctions that prevent them from doing such things.
