Republicans seem sure that the Democratic Party is communist, but can never identify a specific policy as being communist

[Billy000]

Funny how you are provided a specific example, yet you just claim “that’s not communism!”

Let me guess, no policy will ever be “communist” in your view.

Communism refers to SPECIFIC economic policies.

 

[theHawk]

Lol what? How does any of that relate to communism? I mean you aren’t even being all that specific especially with that first example. The FBI getting surveillance warrants illegally would not be communism. You can’t equate the government overstepping its bounds with communism. Communism is an economic idea.

You are so full of shit. Communism is far more than just an “economic idea”. It’s a system where the government dictates whatever it wants, promotes class warfare, and shuts down any dissent.

Communist governments do the following:
1. Don’t allow criticism of the government.
2. Lapdog media/State owned media that parrots the talking points of the Communist regime and covers for them.
3. Equity Agenda, namely destroying the middle class and making everyone poor.
4. Gulags/unequal enforcement of the law. This way they can jail political opponents.
5. Destroy the family unit. Promote abortion, divorce, make the people dependent on government.

Sound familiar? Those all happen to be the Agenda of the Democrats as well.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Lol dude absolutely nothing about any of that is communism.

Maybe you don't know what communism is. From their site:

All of humanity is faced with multiple, interlocking crises–in the economy, in our shared environment, in extreme weather disasters, in the growing danger of pandemics. These crises expose the rampant income inequality, the disparate impacts of these crises on those facing
exploitation and oppression, and, in the U.S. especially, the inhumane lack of health care for all.


These are crises of capitalism, an inhumane, exploitative, oppressive economic system of greed. In the present we struggle to improve the lives of workers and poor people, in our country and around the globe. Ultimately, to solve the challenges facing humanity, we need to replace capitalism with socialism, a system of cooperation, democracy, and equality.

Gee, now who does that sound like?

We stand with the workers of our country, and the working class of the whole world, for health care for all, for an end to income inequality, against racism, sexism, and all injustice. Join with us!

Sounds like the last Democrat primary to me.

III The Working Class, Class Struggle, and Forces for Progress
The Working Class and the Trade Union Movement
Special Oppression & Exploitation
The Complexity and Interconnection of National and Racial Oppression
Multiracial, Multinational Unity for Full Equality and Against Racism—Core Forces for Progress

African Americans
Mexican Americans
Puerto Ricans
Native Peoples
Other Indigenous Peoples
Immigrants
Muslims and Middle Eastern Peoples
Asians and Asian Americans
The Struggle for Full Equality for Women
Youth and Students
Additional Social Forces for Progress
LGBTQ Community
Farmers and the Rural Population
Seniors
The Jewish Community and Anti-Semitism
Social Movements for Progress
Progressive Culture
Health Care Struggles
Progressive and Democratic Religious Movements

Millions of working people have the power—if organized and united—to govern this country and create a government of, by, and for the people. The people of our country, suffering from an exploitative, oppressive economic system, have the right and responsibility to alter or abolish it. We can remove corporate financial donors from the election process, throw the speculators out of the banks, breakup or nationalize “too big to fail” banks, eject CEOs from their golden parachutes, and elect honest working people to represent us in government instead of corporate lawyers, multimillionaires, and billionaires.

We, the working class and people of the United States, face tremendous problems: exploitation, oppression, racism, sexism, a deteriorating environment and infrastructure, huge budget deficits to pay for tax cuts for the 1%, and a government dominated by the most vicious elements of big capital and its political operatives. We face the problems of everyday living, making ends meet, and having a voice at work and in our communities.


We, the working people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, need socialism—a system based on people’s needs, not on corporate greed. A radical critique of capitalism and the vision of socialism form the basic ideas of the Communist Party, USA.

As I said, there are very few differences between the Communists and the Democrat party. All this BS sounds like it came right out of the DNC headquarters. Or are you going to tell the the Communists don't even know what communism is?

CPUSA Program

The audio of the Party Program is available here. Preface The Road to Socialism USA is the Program of the Communist Party USA, adopted in 2005 and updated by our 100th Anniversary Convention in 2019 in Chicago.

cpusa.org

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Nope, definitely not that either but at least we agree it isn’t communism.

Using the federal government and agencies to defeat political foes is not Communism?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

It definitely seems odd. I mean if you realize you can’t name a specific policy when asked, you think you would come to the realization it isn’t communist.

MTG offers no shortage of stupidity on the subject of course.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Says Top Democrats 'Swore' College Oath to Communism

"Democrats are actually communist," Greene said. "Every single elected Republican should say no to every single thing they want."

www.newsweek.com

Communism is a stateless society where all means of production and distribution are held in common and decisions about production and distribution are made democratically.

It's basically Democratic Socialism but without a state.

Of course, a stateless society is practically a logical impossibility, so communists are really Democratic Socialists. They are one and the same for all practical purposes.

So, yeah, dumb fuck. You're a bunch of commies.

 

[22lcidw]

Communism refers to SPECIFIC economic policies.

The Democratic Party has moved further the left every year in my lifetime. They are now Progressives Socialists. And they have people who want Communism. When you vote for them, there is mostly no difference in what they do unless they move further left. The DA in Frisco has been recalled as per a California law option. New York City does not have that option, but the Governor of the state can remove the DA. Will she? Remember, Progs caused all the crime we see now. And the shootouts around the nation went through the roof because of them also.

 

[struth]

It definitely seems odd. I mean if you realize you can’t name a specific policy when asked, you think you would come to the realization it isn’t communist.

MTG offers no shortage of stupidity on the subject of course.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Says Top Democrats 'Swore' College Oath to Communism

"Democrats are actually communist," Greene said. "Every single elected Republican should say no to every single thing they want."

www.newsweek.com

disarming citizens is a key policy of commies and goal of the demafasict party

 

[DBA]

You don’t know what the word means.

We are slowly but surely giving away our freedoms and relinquishing control to the federal government. Dependency(welfare) and INCREASING poverty via bad economic policy, gun control, out of control debt as an excuse to raise taxes on the “rich”, controlling healthcare, indoctrinating via the public school system, purposely creating a divide among races and classes(hating the “rich”, racism everywhere, etc.) and one of the major tenants necessary for people to comply with a Communist government…the lack of believe in God or religion. The government is supposed to be God. Even a casual observer of this board can see a distinct pattern amount resident lefties. Virtually every one of them is not just agnostic, but atheist, with utter disdain for religion.

The point is that the Democratic Party’s agenda and policies sets the stage for Communism. Lemmings follow along, particularly those that have been brainwashed from an early age. North Koreans don’t know any better because they are taught from an early age that government is the answer to their problems and that their dear leader is essentially God. We have a couple of generations here in the US that, while not quite so duped as the North Koreans, aren’t too far behind.

 

[Resnic]

It definitely seems odd. I mean if you realize you can’t name a specific policy when asked, you think you would come to the realization it isn’t communist.

MTG offers no shortage of stupidity on the subject of course.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Says Top Democrats 'Swore' College Oath to Communism

"Democrats are actually communist," Greene said. "Every single elected Republican should say no to every single thing they want."

www.newsweek.com

Multiple actual immigrants that came from communist countries and are old enough to remember them have warned us what America is heading for under the current administration.

Four communist escapees warn: ‘America is becoming authoritarian nation’

Four immigrants who fled communist regimes worry the US is slipping into authoritarianism.

nypost.com

This is one of many many examples of people just like them that recognize things. Such as censorship, cancellation, public hatred of enemies and so on.

Even our new esg scoring system is exactly like the one used in China. For the time being it applies to corporations in America but that's how it started in China as well before it became part of civilian life as well.



Esg as shown in the video even effects Elon musk because he doesn't play the social aspect of esg.

 

[DBA]

Multiple actual immigrants that came from communist countries and are old enough to remember them have warned us what America is heading for under the current administration.

Four communist escapees warn: ‘America is becoming authoritarian nation’

Four immigrants who fled communist regimes worry the US is slipping into authoritarianism.

nypost.com

This is one of many many examples of people just like them that recognize things. Such as censorship, cancellation, public hatred of enemies and so on.

Even our new esg scoring system is exactly like the one used in China. For the time being it applies to corporations in America but that's how it started in China as well before it became part of civilian life as well.



Esg as shown in the video even effects Elon musk because he doesn't play the social aspect of esg.

My wife's family escaped from a former Communist country. They had absolutely no bias or knowledge of politics in the US before their arrival because they had no contact with the Western world. They are now as far right-wing as you can get because they quickly realized that the Democratic Party is paving the way for the same type of government in the US. They are appalled and astounded by the pure ignorance, lack of foresight and lack of history of spoiled American Democrats.

 

[Billy000]

You are so full of shit. Communism is far more than just an “economic idea”. It’s a system where the government dictates whatever it wants, promotes class warfare, and shuts down any dissent.

Communist governments do the following:
1. Don’t allow criticism of the government.
2. Lapdog media/State owned media that parrots the talking points of the Communist regime and covers for them.
3. Equity Agenda, namely destroying the middle class and making everyone poor.
4. Gulags/unequal enforcement of the law. This way they can jail political opponents.
5. Destroy the family unit. Promote abortion, divorce, make the people dependent on government.

Sound familiar? Those all happen to be the Agenda of the Democrats as well.

Lol none of this shit is communism. There may have been fascist governments in the past that had communist economies, but that does not mean fascism and communism have the same definitions. It doesn’t work like that.

 

[Billy000]

Communism is a stateless society where all means of production and distribution are held in common and decisions about production and distribution are made democratically.

It's basically Democratic Socialism but without a state.

Of course, a stateless society is practically a logical impossibility, so communists are really Democratic Socialists. They are one and the same for all practical purposes.

So, yeah, dumb fuck. You're a bunch of commies.

Umm no. You have no idea what social democratic policies are. They don’t even relate to getting rid of capitalism.

 

[sartre play]

Putting a blanket label on everyone not in your chosen political party, seems simple minded. Thinking Americans of all party's do not buy into narrow minded thinking.

 

[Vrenn]

Lol none of this shit is communism. There may have been fascist governments in the past that had communist economies, but that does not mean fascism and communism have the same definitions. It doesn’t work like that.

Fascist governments probably have had social programs but not communist programs. Fascism and Communism are mortal enemies. Neither one works.

 

[Billy000]

Fascist governments probably have had social programs but not communist programs. Fascism and Communism are mortal enemies. Neither one works.

He’s basically referring to the Soviet Union. Stalin ruled over a communist economy therefore communism is fascism. It’s stupid. They struggle with basic nuance.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

My wife's family escaped from a former Communist country. They had absolutely no bias or knowledge of politics in the US before their arrival because they had no contact with the Western world. They are now as far right-wing as you can get because they quickly realized that the Democratic Party is paving the way for the same type of government in the US. They are appalled and astounded by the pure ignorance, lack of foresight and lack of history of spoiled American Democrats.

If the devil comes for your soul, he will not address you with fiery red skin, a tail with an arrowhead end and breathing fire. He will be well dressed, somewhat coy, and appear as the most harmless person in the world. And of course he won't tell you why he's there.

Buy the time the Democrat party announces they are actually communist, they will have been running the country for several years, it's just few will know it. The people that vote for them now are like that frog in the pot of cold water on top of the stove happily swimming around. They will never blame their leaders for things like the total Afghanistan failure, the out of control inflation rate, the 150% increase in gasoline, the worst border problem in 20 years, none of that is their fault; it never is for a Democrat.

Throughout my life I watched the Democrats go from Democrat to liberals, from liberals to progressives, from progressives to Socialist Democrats. Anybody that thinks this movement will stop here is totally politically ignorant, especially when they are in power and pushing as hard as they can to go even further left.

 

[Billy000]

If the devil comes for your soul, he will not address you with fiery red skin, a tail with an arrowhead end and breathing fire. He will be well dressed, somewhat coy, and appear as the most harmless person in the world. And of course he won't tell you why he's there.

Buy the time the Democrat party announces they are actually communist, they will have been running the country for several years, it's just few will know it. The people that vote for them now are like that frog in the pot of cold water on top of the stove happily swimming around. They will never blame their leaders for things like the total Afghanistan failure, the out of control inflation rate, the 150% increase in gasoline, the worst border problem in 20 years, none of that is their fault; it never is for a Democrat.

Throughout my life I watched the Democrats go from Democrat to liberals, from liberals to progressives, from progressives to Socialist Democrats. Anybody that thinks this movement will stop here is totally politically ignorant, especially when they are in power and pushing as hard as they can to go even further left.

Tell me, what is the difference between progressives and socialists in your view?

 

[Vrenn]

He’s basically referring to the Soviet Union. Stalin ruled over a communist economy therefore communism is fascism. It’s stupid. They struggle with basic nuance.

Stalin was a Despot Dictator. He was the extreme left of left. The Spanish Civil War was a good example of that.

The Socialists ruled Spain. While they made it easier on the poverty class they made thing rougher on the capitalists. The Fascists imported from Italy started a civil war. Franco was retired from the Spanish Army and was living outside spain. They built a Civil Army out of the italian military outside of Italy. They had to sneak Franco in. Spain became a defacto war between the Socialists (Stalin, USSR) and the Fascists Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy). Both sides sent tons of war materials to combat the other but didn't send men. Fascism won. Franco was actually a good buy Fascist compared to the other two. Italy's Fascism was still the Government in the early 1970s until Francos death then it moved to the left.

 

[Vrenn]

Tell me, what is the difference between progressives and socialists in your view?

I'll give you a hint. The GOP from the 50s were Progressive Conservatives.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Tell me, what is the difference between progressives and socialists in your view?

Not a damn thing. One is socialist and the other a path to it.