Restaurants are adding labor surcharges to help offset minimum wage increases

[francoHFW]

People don't realize how important it is we have the white house to keep them in check. If gore won no war with Iraq and no recession. Romney would have bankrupt the big 3 broke all the unions and finished off the middle class. It would have been their dream to win 2008 and 2012. America forgot how bad bush hastert and delay were.

You are smoking to much pot, the big three were doing fine in 2012 when the mod of the third debate threw the election to Obama over Romney.

Romney wanted to bankrupt them. You'll see trump will finish the job

Again it would of been no big deal if GM went bankrupt they would of still been around just like American Airlines is still around after it filed for bankruptcy, two Chrysler is now owned by fiat and Ford never took any money.

So how would of Romney done it in your universe?

And lastly why does Trump want to bankrupt them?

There was no Bank money in 2009 to pick up the pieces of GM in 2009 like when AA lost it.

They would of restructure tired the Union contracts and pension programs. You know damn well it was all about keeping those outrages pension programs.

And they are still in trouble today which I told you at least 8 times in the past year.

Sorry the workers didn't get screwed by the GOP AGAIN. lol.. They're doing just fine.

 

[francoHFW]

And the New BS GOP wouldn't let them do a gd thing. Obama had 60 votes to block fiibusters for about 3 weeks in session. You dupes think he had 2 years lol and that his new policies DID SOMETHING. Wrong, dupe. He managed the stimulus and ACA. At least there was no corrupt GOP bubble.

Again he had 8 years an his idiotic polices cost him the Senate, the house and over a thousand state legislatures seats...

You have no one to blame but Obama and the stupid asinine democrat party for your failures dupe.

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What policies were those, dupe? LOL. What cost him was bs propaganda and lies. Jobs jobs jobs my ass. All the GOP is good for is cutting taxes on the rich, corrupt bubbles, screwing the nonrich and stupid wars. And constructing an imaginary planet for ignorant chumps like you...

You mentioned it already the biggest one was Obama care..followed closely by his over reaching with the EPA.

Neither of which had any effect on the economy, dupe. According to everyone BUT your lying cheating billionaire brainwashers and their bought off lying HS grad pundits....

Why don't you all do us a favor and start a lemonade stand so you could see first hand and from experience what crappy liberal decisions you make to stall the growth of your lemonade empire.


.

Yup, S+L and Real Estate corruption, huge debt in good times, and the stupidest wars ever are much better. The New BS GOP is always a disaster. Except on Planet Dupe.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The Times speaks the truth. Almost all the ridiculous mortgages came with BOOOSH.

I never said Bush was innocent. Did you read the issue with Clinton and his contribution? There were others besides Clinton and Bush.

Yes, and it was NOTHING in comparison. Mainly he signed the GOP bills....as long as we had Clinton regulators, nothing happened.

People don't realize how important it is we have the white house to keep them in check. If gore won no war with Iraq and no recession. Romney would have bankrupt the big 3 broke all the unions and finished off the middle class. It would have been their dream to win 2008 and 2012. America forgot how bad bush hastert and delay were.

You are smoking to much pot, the big three were doing fine in 2012 when the mod of the third debate threw the election to Obama over Romney.

Romney wanted to bankrupt them. You'll see trump will finish the job

F. Y.I.


General Motors Company (GM)
Trumps Changing environmental regulations could be a catalyst for F and GM stock
By Vince Martin, InvestorPlace Contributor | Mar 22, 2017, 11:40 am EDT
Ford Motor Company (NYSE:F) andGeneral Motors Company(NYSE:GM) are in a much better place than they were during the financial crisis. GM stock, of course, went to zero as GM filed for bankruptcy in 2009. Ford stock performed almost as badly. It hit an all-time inflation-adjusted low in 2008, trading just above $1 before recovering.

Source: Shutterstock
The narrative around the Ford and General Motors troubles largely centers on union wages and pension obligations. Those labor costs left the U.S. giants unable to compete with foreign manufacturers. That narrative usually omits another key factor, however.

Environmental regulations, notably CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) standards, had a major role as well. Ford and GM simply never figured out how to profitably make smaller cars (with those labor costs a key reason why). But fuel economy rules required Ford and General Motors to make those smaller cars — at a loss — in order to sell profitable trucks and SUVs.

With the Donald Trump Administration reportedly reconsidering environmental regulation on the industry, there have been hopes that GM stock and Ford stock could benefit from changes. And there is some logic behind those hopes.

Where Ford Stock and GM Stock Sit Now
Obviously, it’s not the financial crisis anymore. GM stock has been recapitalized and returned to the public markets. Ford stock hasn’t exactly soared since a post-crisis rebound, but it has been steady, and both stocks have paid substantial dividends

 

[Wyatt earp]

You are smoking to much pot, the big three were doing fine in 2012 when the mod of the third debate threw the election to Obama over Romney.

Romney wanted to bankrupt them. You'll see trump will finish the job

Again it would of been no big deal if GM went bankrupt they would of still been around just like American Airlines is still around after it filed for bankruptcy, two Chrysler is now owned by fiat and Ford never took any money.

So how would of Romney done it in your universe?

And lastly why does Trump want to bankrupt them?

There was no Bank money in 2009 to pick up the pieces of GM in 2009 like when AA lost it.

They would of restructure tired the Union contracts and pension programs. You know damn well it was all about keeping those outrages pension programs.

And they are still in trouble today which I told you at least 8 times in the past year.

Sorry the workers didn't get screwed by the GOP AGAIN. lol.. They're doing just fine.

Quit being a propaganda tool, trumps new EPA regulations helps GM and Ford, Obama's hurt them.



.

 

[sealybobo]

People don't realize how important it is we have the white house to keep them in check. If gore won no war with Iraq and no recession. Romney would have bankrupt the big 3 broke all the unions and finished off the middle class. It would have been their dream to win 2008 and 2012. America forgot how bad bush hastert and delay were.

You are smoking to much pot, the big three were doing fine in 2012 when the mod of the third debate threw the election to Obama over Romney.

Romney wanted to bankrupt them. You'll see trump will finish the job

Again it would of been no big deal if GM went bankrupt they would of still been around just like American Airlines is still around after it filed for bankruptcy, two Chrysler is now owned by fiat and Ford never took any money.

So how would of Romney done it in your universe?

And lastly why does Trump want to bankrupt them?

To destroy unions

They do that on their own, no need for help...

See the recent South Carolina Boeing vote on rejecting the unions


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I remember boing union workers took pay cuts. How's that not a step back for blue collar?

 

[Markle]

Only place with all of it. Soooo, dupe. here's household debt - OMG GOP college loans! OMG look at UK- the other RW modern country...go Tories!

Really, I expected more of you in your childish effort to distract from the subject.

Once again, please provide extensions to your charts from 2008 through 2016.

Why are you so afraid? Scared you'll be made to be a fool? Not to worry, we're already aware of your standing.

 

[francoHFW]

You are smoking to much pot, the big three were doing fine in 2012 when the mod of the third debate threw the election to Obama over Romney.

Romney wanted to bankrupt them. You'll see trump will finish the job

Again it would of been no big deal if GM went bankrupt they would of still been around just like American Airlines is still around after it filed for bankruptcy, two Chrysler is now owned by fiat and Ford never took any money.

So how would of Romney done it in your universe?

And lastly why does Trump want to bankrupt them?

There was no Bank money in 2009 to pick up the pieces of GM in 2009 like when AA lost it.

They would of restructure tired the Union contracts and pension programs. You know damn well it was all about keeping those outrages pension programs.

And they are still in trouble today which I told you at least 8 times in the past year.

Sorry the workers didn't get screwed by the GOP AGAIN. lol.. They're doing just fine.

And by they I mean GM and CFiat.

 

[francoHFW]

Only place with all of it. Soooo, dupe. here's household debt - OMG GOP college loans! OMG look at UK- the other RW modern country...go Tories!

Really, I expected more of you in your childish effort to distract from the subject.

Once again, please provide extensions to your charts from 2008 through 2016.

Why are you so afraid? Scared you'll be made to be a fool? Not to worry, we're already aware of your standing.

I just did for enough to persuade any nondupe. Household debt and rich poor gap and the middle class etc will continue to tank until pander to the rich GOP policies end. DUH

 

[Markle]

The banks wanted to lend to those they knew would default.

Yes, because Chris Dodd and Barney Franks mandated that Fannie and Freddie INCREASE the percentage of sub-prime loans in their portfolios. Since banks had to sell them more sub-prime loans, they were happy to oblige. Those lower standards had to be passed on to higher income borrowers.

Of course you would know that if you had bothered to inform yourself. But then, we all know how opposed Progressives are to even view opposing views much less considering them. Perhaps due to the TRUTH AND FACTS being on our side, Conservatives ae Conservatives far more likely to view and consider opposing views.

 

[francoHFW]

I never said Bush was innocent. Did you read the issue with Clinton and his contribution? There were others besides Clinton and Bush.

Yes, and it was NOTHING in comparison. Mainly he signed the GOP bills....as long as we had Clinton regulators, nothing happened.

People don't realize how important it is we have the white house to keep them in check. If gore won no war with Iraq and no recession. Romney would have bankrupt the big 3 broke all the unions and finished off the middle class. It would have been their dream to win 2008 and 2012. America forgot how bad bush hastert and delay were.

You are smoking to much pot, the big three were doing fine in 2012 when the mod of the third debate threw the election to Obama over Romney.

Romney wanted to bankrupt them. You'll see trump will finish the job

F. Y.I.


General Motors Company (GM)
Trumps Changing environmental regulations could be a catalyst for F and GM stock
By Vince Martin, InvestorPlace Contributor | Mar 22, 2017, 11:40 am EDT
Ford Motor Company (NYSE:F) andGeneral Motors Company(NYSE:GM) are in a much better place than they were during the financial crisis. GM stock, of course, went to zero as GM filed for bankruptcy in 2009. Ford stock performed almost as badly. It hit an all-time inflation-adjusted low in 2008, trading just above $1 before recovering.

Source: Shutterstock
The narrative around the Ford and General Motors troubles largely centers on union wages and pension obligations. Those labor costs left the U.S. giants unable to compete with foreign manufacturers. That narrative usually omits another key factor, however.

Environmental regulations, notably CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) standards, had a major role as well. Ford and GM simply never figured out how to profitably make smaller cars (with those labor costs a key reason why). But fuel economy rules required Ford and General Motors to make those smaller cars — at a loss — in order to sell profitable trucks and SUVs.

With the Donald Trump Administration reportedly reconsidering environmental regulation on the industry, there have been hopes that GM stock and Ford stock could benefit from changes. And there is some logic behind those hopes.

Where Ford Stock and GM Stock Sit Now
Obviously, it’s not the financial crisis anymore. GM stock has been recapitalized and returned to the public markets. Ford stock hasn’t exactly soared since a post-crisis rebound, but it has been steady, and both stocks have paid substantial dividends

Shutterstock? They know how to make small cars. Ford Focus. Sales I care about, stock not so much. Obama made them get smarter designing. Now they'll get dumb again, like Trump and his supporters- all the simple bs mythic solutions....

 

[Markle]

I just did for enough to persuade any nondupe. Household debt and rich poor gap and the middle class etc will continue to tank until pander to the rich GOP policies end. DUH

Coward, still don't have the internal fortitude to post the truth, do you?

 

[Markle]

There was no Bank money in 2009 to pick up the pieces of GM in 2009 like when AA lost it.

ANOTHER LIE!

The federal government took over GM and Chrysler in March 2009.

 

[francoHFW]

The banks wanted to lend to those they knew would default.

Yes, because Chris Dodd and Barney Franks mandated that Fannie and Freddie INCREASE the percentage of sub-prime loans in their portfolios. Since banks had to sell them more sub-prime loans, they were happy to oblige. Those lower standards had to be passed on to higher income borrowers.

Of course you would know that if you had bothered to inform yourself. But then, we all know how opposed Progressives are to even view opposing views much less considering them. Perhaps due to the TRUTH AND FACTS being on our side, Conservatives ae Conservatives far more likely to view and consider opposing views.

Funny how Fanny and Freddie's share went from 75% tp 25% of the market in 2003, dupe. Great job! And how Frank and Dodd were out of power then.

 

[francoHFW]

I just did for enough to persuade any nondupe. Household debt and rich poor gap and the middle class etc will continue to tank until pander to the rich GOP policies end. DUH

Coward, still don't have the internal fortitude to post the truth, do you?

I posted household debt and the top 10% share continuing to tank under Obama, as it has since Reagan. You are so fecking dumb...Obama was unable to change that, just averted ANOTHER GOP great depression and 7 years straight of growth despite pure GOP obstruction.

 

[Markle]

The banks wanted to lend to those they knew would default.

Yes, because Chris Dodd and Barney Franks mandated that Fannie and Freddie INCREASE the percentage of sub-prime loans in their portfolios. Since banks had to sell them more sub-prime loans, they were happy to oblige. Those lower standards had to be passed on to higher income borrowers.

Of course you would know that if you had bothered to inform yourself. But then, we all know how opposed Progressives are to even view opposing views much less considering them. Perhaps due to the TRUTH AND FACTS being on our side, Conservatives ae Conservatives far more likely to view and consider opposing views.

Funny how Fanny and Freddie's share went from 75% tp 25% of the market in 2003, dupe. Great job! And how Frank and Dodd were out of power then.

You sure do fear those years from 2008 through 2016. You're a joke.

 

[francoHFW]

There was no Bank money in 2009 to pick up the pieces of GM in 2009 like when AA lost it.

ANOTHER LIE!

The federal government took over GM and Chrysler in March 2009.

Jeebus you're dumb. The gov't took over because everyone else was broke DUH. As I SAID.

 

[Markle]

I just did for enough to persuade any nondupe. Household debt and rich poor gap and the middle class etc will continue to tank until pander to the rich GOP policies end. DUH

Coward, still don't have the internal fortitude to post the truth, do you?

I posted household debt and the top 10% share continuing to tank under Obama, as it has since Reagan. You are so fecking dumb...Obama was unable to change that, just averted ANOTHER GOP great depression and 7 years straight of growth despite pure GOP obstruction.

Grow up.

 

[francoHFW]

The banks wanted to lend to those they knew would default.

Yes, because Chris Dodd and Barney Franks mandated that Fannie and Freddie INCREASE the percentage of sub-prime loans in their portfolios. Since banks had to sell them more sub-prime loans, they were happy to oblige. Those lower standards had to be passed on to higher income borrowers.

Of course you would know that if you had bothered to inform yourself. But then, we all know how opposed Progressives are to even view opposing views much less considering them. Perhaps due to the TRUTH AND FACTS being on our side, Conservatives ae Conservatives far more likely to view and consider opposing views.

Funny how Fanny and Freddie's share went from 75% tp 25% of the market in 2003, dupe. Great job! And how Frank and Dodd were out of power then.

You sure do fear those years from 2008 through 2016. You're a joke.

Every time you try a fact you look stupider. Read that, dumbass.

Tell us how Clinton and Carter caused that, dupe. LOL.

 

[Papageorgio]

Yes, and it was NOTHING in comparison. Mainly he signed the GOP bills....as long as we had Clinton regulators, nothing happened.

People don't realize how important it is we have the white house to keep them in check. If gore won no war with Iraq and no recession. Romney would have bankrupt the big 3 broke all the unions and finished off the middle class. It would have been their dream to win 2008 and 2012. America forgot how bad bush hastert and delay were.

You are smoking to much pot, the big three were doing fine in 2012 when the mod of the third debate threw the election to Obama over Romney.

Romney wanted to bankrupt them. You'll see trump will finish the job

Again it would of been no big deal if GM went bankrupt they would of still been around just like American Airlines is still around after it filed for bankruptcy, two Chrysler is now owned by fiat and Ford never took any money.

So how would of Romney done it in your universe?

And lastly why does Trump want to bankrupt them?

To destroy unions

Unions were destroyed back in the days of Kennedy and have been going downhill since.

 

[Papageorgio]

You are smoking to much pot, the big three were doing fine in 2012 when the mod of the third debate threw the election to Obama over Romney.

Romney wanted to bankrupt them. You'll see trump will finish the job

Again it would of been no big deal if GM went bankrupt they would of still been around just like American Airlines is still around after it filed for bankruptcy, two Chrysler is now owned by fiat and Ford never took any money.

So how would of Romney done it in your universe?

And lastly why does Trump want to bankrupt them?

To destroy unions

They do that on their own, no need for help...

See the recent South Carolina Boeing vote on rejecting the unions.

I remember boing union workers took pay cuts. How's that not a step back for blue collar?

You don't respect unions enough to work in a unionized shop, yet you believe everyone else needs to support them. How much have you donated to unions to keep them strong? How much of your household items were built by union workers? When you have work on your do you go out and get union workers to fix it? Do you only own Ford, GM or Chrysler? What about the food you get? Do you get your food from unionized grocery stores? Do you even know what shops in town are union or not? So before you start crying about others destroying unions, look at yourself first, because if you aren't 100% buying union products, you are contributing to the decline.