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[sealybobo]

i don`t think Iraq should be paying us for wrecking their country and killing at least 100,000 innocent people.

I take it that you know that far more innocent people were killed under the reign of Saddam Hussein.

I know that. Saddam was convicted of killing people in the years 1982 and 1988. We showed up a little late for liberation in 2003. Our killing is justified because Saddam MAY have killed more than we did 2 decades prior to our invasion? I don`t think so.

It turns out Iraq needs a dictator. If given freedom Isis will take over.

 

[sealybobo]

But they get more than oil. They get the compliant appreciation of the corporations that profit from their adventures. We like to pretend that 'American Ingenuity' is what keeps our companies dominant, but military supremacy don't hurt.

This is why corporations should be paying more taxes not less. We spend a lot of money so Pepsi can sell their shit safely around the globe.

Heh.... we could bill them per war, I guess.

Or we could cancel the rent-an-army business plan. Use our military to protect our country and let the banksters fend for themselves.

Funny nothing's simple. For example if we dont police the world maybe Germany and Japan have to start defending themselves but how did that work out last time.

OK then Germany and Japan should be paying a defense bill. Europe too. And Canada and Australia and Iraq

I can't believe the Russians backing the Taliban

We haven`t been policing the world since 1945 and i don`t think Iraq should be paying us for wrecking their country and killing at least 100,000 innocent people. Canada and Australia should pay us for what? They mind their own business and that`s why no one wants to fly planes into their skyscrapers.

Send Canada a bill??? You're out of your freaking mind. We should be billing you for the pollution to the Great Lakes, and our water supply, acid rain.

The rest of the world should be BILLING THE USA for the mess in the Middle East which has created the greatest humanitarian crisis since WWII, which has seen millions leave their homes in search of safety. The rest of the world should bill the USA for ISIS and the damage they have caused. You made this huge mess, displacing millions of people, and then the US refuses to take in the refugees they created.

You've got a lot of gall suggesting that the current destabilization of the Middle East isn't all on your shoulders, with the Gulf and Iraq Wars. The rest of the world is paying YOUR BILL in terrorism and death while you refuse to take in anyone.

Canada has been riding our coattails for years. They don't have to have a military because we deal with it. Let's be honest. Now there's a benefit to being the world superpower but you also take a lot of shit for it.

I agree George Bush and Chaney and haloburton are an example of how our government has been taken over by the elites and corporations. I'm not arguing with you invading Iraq was a huge mistake but not to haloburton it wasn't

 

[Campbell]

People say, "I didn't want Hillary because she would just be the same old same old". Yes, that is true. She would have continued steady growth. She would have continued to protect unions and social security. She would have doubled the debt but so will Trump. She would continue pushing free trade but that's because free trade is inevitable. She would have not won the war on terror but neither will Trump. But she would not have given massive tax breaks to the rich, which Trump will give. She would have insisted on making college affordable and fixing healthcare.

About doubling the debt.......guess who started it:

.....................................................Total U S Debt......................................................

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)((Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

Somehow you left this out. I can't imagine how.

Shucks!!!

I was just trying to point out that if George W. Bush hadn't immediately started working on tax cuts for the rich we wouldn't even have a national debt:

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32(Bill Clinton raised taxes on the rich)
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

George W. Bush is/was a progressive… Shit for brains

Fuck you and George Bush......he's a Republican.....that's more than enough for me to hate his right wing ass.

 

[sealybobo]

People say, "I didn't want Hillary because she would just be the same old same old". Yes, that is true. She would have continued steady growth. She would have continued to protect unions and social security. She would have doubled the debt but so will Trump. She would continue pushing free trade but that's because free trade is inevitable. She would have not won the war on terror but neither will Trump. But she would not have given massive tax breaks to the rich, which Trump will give. She would have insisted on making college affordable and fixing healthcare.

About doubling the debt.......guess who started it:

.....................................................Total U S Debt......................................................

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)((Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

Somehow you left this out. I can't imagine how.

Shucks!!!

I was just trying to point out that if George W. Bush hadn't immediately started working on tax cuts for the rich we wouldn't even have a national debt:

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32(Bill Clinton raised taxes on the rich)
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

George W. Bush is/was a progressive… Shit for brains

Fuck you and George Bush......he's a Republican.....that's more than enough for me to hate his right wing ass.

There are unfortunately three kinds of people. Republicans, Democrats and people who think they are Republicans. Most usmb Republicans are the ones who think they belong to the gop

 

[Rustic]

People say, "I didn't want Hillary because she would just be the same old same old". Yes, that is true. She would have continued steady growth. She would have continued to protect unions and social security. She would have doubled the debt but so will Trump. She would continue pushing free trade but that's because free trade is inevitable. She would have not won the war on terror but neither will Trump. But she would not have given massive tax breaks to the rich, which Trump will give. She would have insisted on making college affordable and fixing healthcare.

About doubling the debt.......guess who started it:

.....................................................Total U S Debt......................................................

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)((Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

Somehow you left this out. I can't imagine how.

Shucks!!!

I was just trying to point out that if George W. Bush hadn't immediately started working on tax cuts for the rich we wouldn't even have a national debt:

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32(Bill Clinton raised taxes on the rich)
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

George W. Bush is/was a progressive… Shit for brains

Fuck you and George Bush......he's a Republican.....that's more than enough for me to hate his right wing ass.

Conservatives and Republicans have no relation to each other...

 

[Rustic]

About doubling the debt.......guess who started it:

.....................................................Total U S Debt......................................................

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)((Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

Somehow you left this out. I can't imagine how.

Shucks!!!

I was just trying to point out that if George W. Bush hadn't immediately started working on tax cuts for the rich we wouldn't even have a national debt:

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32(Bill Clinton raised taxes on the rich)
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

George W. Bush is/was a progressive… Shit for brains

Fuck you and George Bush......he's a Republican.....that's more than enough for me to hate his right wing ass.

There are unfortunately three kinds of people. Republicans, Democrats and people who think they are Republicans. Most usmb Republicans are the ones who think they belong to the gop

No there are two, progressives and conservatives... The former is ....cancer

 

[danielpalos]

In the eyes of the German people, the govt. providing the things necessary for a decent life is a good thing. They don`t whine about high taxes when they see a return. Whether you`re impressed with our education system is irrelevant. Like the rest of us, you`re nobody and you need to learn to live with it. If you find paradise let us know.

And the key word is Return

Where is our return of the trillions of dollars plus on welfare the past 50 years?


.

Where is the return on the trillions we`ve squandered on military adventures since the end of WW2?

Kind of obvious even to a liberal like you, we are not speaking Russian are we?


And theseView attachment 119541

Which adventure was it that kept us from speaking Russian? The search for wmds? Our heroic victory in Granada? You`re pretty damn funny!

Got to love these children who thinks we would still be free with out a strong military...

Now are you done deflecting child? Again what return did we get on the trillions of dollars at spent on welfare?

We know what the democrats got out of it votes and sheep like you.

.

A strong military is socialism. A strong Commerce Clause means we should rely on Capitalism.

We have the largest economy in the world, even with illegal immigration.

 

[danielpalos]

we can handle the pot. who cares who smokes pot.

The company management for one.

Company insurance companies for another.

We have a McCarthy era phrase in our pledge; should we clamor for, "hypocrisy insurance"?

 

[danielpalos]

the Problem is, all y'all seem to have, is Red Herrings.

Says the king of "Red Herrings."

you don't know what you are talking about, like usual.

From you that is a great compliment! Thank you, you never did answer my question earlier in the thread, tells me a lot about you. Have a good day danniboi.

begging the question is not debate, only fallacy.

Didn't ask for a debate, asked only for an answer which you have none. I didn't think you thought your statement through and it turns out I was right.

You can't be right, but twice a day, with a fallacy of "begging the question". why not try a real argument instead? to much, "competition"?

 

[danielpalos]

You clearly don't understand that unions are basically lobbyists for all workers. For example in Michigan, even if you weren't in a union, companies had to treat you right because we WERE in a union state. So if you got wrongfully fired chances are you would be protected when you went to court because the judge is used to defending union workers. In non union states you have no right to your job. They can't fire you because of your age but they can make up any old reason. That used to be a lot harder for employers to do.

Unions have a substantial impact on the compensation and work lives of both unionized and non-unionized workers. This report presents current data on unions’ effect on wages, fringe benefits, total compensation, pay inequality, and workplace protections.

No coincidence as union membership in America has declined, so too have wages.

How unions help all workers

Also German companies haven't yet broken the social contract they have with their workers like we did here in the 70's when guys like Jack Walsh from GE started firing 10% of his staff every year no matter what. In Germany most people have a right to their job and unless they really fuck up pretty much have a job for life. We used to have that here in America but that no longer exists.

A question silly boy boy how many German workers smoke pot like you?


.

I'm going to Germany for business next year. My company likes to party. I can't wait to go. I saw pictures of this year and it was like

They can handle the alcohol you can't, and still refuse to answer the basic question how many German workers smoke pot like you?

we can handle the pot. who cares who smokes pot.

I am all for legalizing pot, people who smoke it aren't bright, cigarette smokers aren't bright either.

neither are alcohol drinkers. and, y'all have been losing your arguments to a pothead with a work ethic that includes, working on arguments that don't resort to fallacy, because, only lazy people do that.

 

[danielpalos]

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Politics Is a Spitball Fight in a Prep School

Quit denying that the Democratic Party was taken over in the 60s by born-rich snobs. Snooty Ms. Rodham worked for Goldwater in 1964 and never shed her fear and hatred of those born in the working class, which is what she really means by "deplorable." Without her Daddy's money, she would have wound up a nasty gum-chewing waitress at some dive. Instead, she became a diva.

Except she was a brilliant lawyer/student/politician who rose to be the first woman to win the popular vote in an election. Now who is Don Trump? Silver Spoon all the way.

If you don't like the democratic party by all means vote GOP but tell me what they do for you.

Hillary is the ultimate anti-feminist. She cynically rode men's coattails to get everywhere she went, in the process selling herself out to protect one of those men, who, as the most powerful man in the workplace, used one of the least powerful women for his own sexual pleasure. She then sought to pretend she was a champion of the very women that man had harassed and she sought to silence, saying they had the right to be heard and believed.

Do you blame Melania for lying for Donald? Fact is you don't care about monicagate. If you did you wouldn't be voting trump hypocrites

Clinton should have told Congress it wasn't their business, instead he was a coward and lied

I think they had religious, adultery laws on the books DC. The right seemed willing to, impeach first, and ask First Amendment questions, afterward.

 

[danielpalos]

Republicans can't sink a bunch of money into defense and then say they are running the government like a business. Where was the profit in the Iraq war? A corporation would have never invested in the Iraq war unless they were going to get the oil.

Dept. of Defense is for the protection of the country.

A defense clause is not an offense clause; and we don't have a general warfare clause.

we do have a general welfare clause, and the right wing, likes to complain about welfare spending but not offense spending.

 

[danielpalos]

Where is the return on the trillions we`ve squandered on military adventures since the end of WW2?

Kind of obvious even to a liberal like you, we are not speaking Russian are we?


And theseView attachment 119541

Which adventure was it that kept us from speaking Russian? The search for wmds? Our heroic victory in Granada? You`re pretty damn funny!

Got to love these children who thinks we would still be free with out a strong military...



Now are you done deflecting child? Again what return did we get on the trillions of dollars at spent on welfare?


We know what the democrats got out of it votes and sheep like you.

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Eisenhower warns of military-industrial complex - Jan 17, 1961 - HISTORY.com

And you failed to listen to his warnings. And then you cry about socialism or people sucking off the government tit? These private defense contractors only customer is the US Government. That's not capitalism even though they are private for profit companies.

Now don't think that I'm saying I don't appreciate the value of our defense contractors. I do. But when Trump promises to pump a lot of money into defense, just remember that this is basically a false economy. This isn't a sustainable economy unless you plan on these companies making bombs and guns for the government year after year after year. And of course they're going to want to increase profits every year just like every other for profit wants to. So basically even if we are in times of peace, you keep funding these defense contractors because you don't want to cost your constituents jobs, even if they are sucking off the governments tit.

They make us cool shit to be proud of, police the world, some one has to do it and may as well be us and keeps the tyrants at bay


Now quit deflecting like the other poster where is our return for the trillions of dollars we spent on welfare the past 50 years? All we got is more ghettos and democrat voters.



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We have the richest poor in the world.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Republicans can't sink a bunch of money into defense and then say they are running the government like a business. Where was the profit in the Iraq war? A corporation would have never invested in the Iraq war unless they were going to get the oil.

Dept. of Defense is for the protection of the country.

A defense clause is not an offense clause; and we don't have a general warfare clause.

we do have a general welfare clause, and the right wing, likes to complain about welfare spending but not offense spending.

Yes it is. The best defense is a strong offense.



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[Wyatt earp]

Kind of obvious even to a liberal like you, we are not speaking Russian are we?


And theseView attachment 119541

Which adventure was it that kept us from speaking Russian? The search for wmds? Our heroic victory in Granada? You`re pretty damn funny!

Got to love these children who thinks we would still be free with out a strong military...



Now are you done deflecting child? Again what return did we get on the trillions of dollars at spent on welfare?


We know what the democrats got out of it votes and sheep like you.

.

Eisenhower warns of military-industrial complex - Jan 17, 1961 - HISTORY.com

And you failed to listen to his warnings. And then you cry about socialism or people sucking off the government tit? These private defense contractors only customer is the US Government. That's not capitalism even though they are private for profit companies.

Now don't think that I'm saying I don't appreciate the value of our defense contractors. I do. But when Trump promises to pump a lot of money into defense, just remember that this is basically a false economy. This isn't a sustainable economy unless you plan on these companies making bombs and guns for the government year after year after year. And of course they're going to want to increase profits every year just like every other for profit wants to. So basically even if we are in times of peace, you keep funding these defense contractors because you don't want to cost your constituents jobs, even if they are sucking off the governments tit.

They make us cool shit to be proud of, police the world, some one has to do it and may as well be us and keeps the tyrants at bay


Now quit deflecting like the other poster where is our return for the trillions of dollars we spent on welfare the past 50 years? All we got is more ghettos and democrat voters.



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We have the richest poor in the world.

Yup to keep them from revolting against democrats


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[sealybobo]

About doubling the debt.......guess who started it:

.....................................................Total U S Debt......................................................

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)((Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

Somehow you left this out. I can't imagine how.

Shucks!!!

I was just trying to point out that if George W. Bush hadn't immediately started working on tax cuts for the rich we wouldn't even have a national debt:

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32(Bill Clinton raised taxes on the rich)
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

George W. Bush is/was a progressive… Shit for brains

Fuck you and George Bush......he's a Republican.....that's more than enough for me to hate his right wing ass.

Conservatives and Republicans have no relation to each other...

Bullshit. There's just different levels of conservative.

Bill Clinton and Reagan were liberal Republicans compared to rubio and Chris Christie or kasich and Cruz is more conservative than them but then you have Rand Paul.

All conservatives and all Republicans

Even Hillary loves wallstreet remember? And Obama loves GE. You cared but now walls Treet and GE are the white house. How hypocritical

 

[Papageorgio]

Says the king of "Red Herrings."

you don't know what you are talking about, like usual.

From you that is a great compliment! Thank you, you never did answer my question earlier in the thread, tells me a lot about you. Have a good day danniboi.

begging the question is not debate, only fallacy.

Didn't ask for a debate, asked only for an answer which you have none. I didn't think you thought your statement through and it turns out I was right.

You can't be right, but twice a day, with a fallacy of "begging the question". why not try a real argument instead? to much, "competition"?

You won't participate in an argument, you resort to silly outdated cliches. I don't compete with you, I don't compete with those that can't answer simple questions and divert to silly cliches. At least I am right two times a day, which is two more times a day than you.

 

[Papageorgio]

Republicans can't sink a bunch of money into defense and then say they are running the government like a business. Where was the profit in the Iraq war? A corporation would have never invested in the Iraq war unless they were going to get the oil.

Dept. of Defense is for the protection of the country.

A defense clause is not an offense clause; and we don't have a general warfare clause.

we do have a general welfare clause, and the right wing, likes to complain about welfare spending but not offense spending.

Yes it is. The best defense is a strong offense.



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Forgive Daniel, all he has is the causeless fallacy of the left.

 

[sealybobo]

you don't know what you are talking about, like usual.

From you that is a great compliment! Thank you, you never did answer my question earlier in the thread, tells me a lot about you. Have a good day danniboi.

begging the question is not debate, only fallacy.

Didn't ask for a debate, asked only for an answer which you have none. I didn't think you thought your statement through and it turns out I was right.

You can't be right, but twice a day, with a fallacy of "begging the question". why not try a real argument instead? to much, "competition"?

You won't participate in an argument, you resort to silly outdated cliches. I don't compete with you, I don't compete with those that can't answer simple questions and divert to silly cliches. At least I am right two times a day, which is two more times a day than you.

What drew you to this thread? What about this surcharge bs? Has it slowed down the economy? What was your original position? You aren't for trump or hillary, we get it. So how do you feel trumps doing so far? Will you vote for him in 2020 if the election were today vs a generic democrat?

 

[Papageorgio]

From you that is a great compliment! Thank you, you never did answer my question earlier in the thread, tells me a lot about you. Have a good day danniboi.

begging the question is not debate, only fallacy.

Didn't ask for a debate, asked only for an answer which you have none. I didn't think you thought your statement through and it turns out I was right.

You can't be right, but twice a day, with a fallacy of "begging the question". why not try a real argument instead? to much, "competition"?

You won't participate in an argument, you resort to silly outdated cliches. I don't compete with you, I don't compete with those that can't answer simple questions and divert to silly cliches. At least I am right two times a day, which is two more times a day than you.

What drew you to this thread? What about this surcharge bs? Has it slowed down the economy? What was your original position? You aren't for trump or hillary, we get it. So how do you feel trumps doing so far? Will you vote for him in 2020 if the election were today vs a generic democrat?

The surcharge is wrong, it is a bad business practice, to have a price on the menu and then charge more because of some bogus surcharge is deceitful. Charge the price and the price is the price, the consumer knows exactly what they are paying, no BS. You pay your employees what you pay them, you don't need to protest with a silly surcharge, I am at the restaurant to eat and enjoy myself, not for a political statement. Trump is doing okay, something's he is doing well others I disagree, he needs to quit posting on Twitter. I am not inclined to vote for him on a second term.