Rightwingers, of whom I'm one, let the gay shit go

[Sunni Man]

however even though Muslims can live here peacefully that does not mean they will continue to follow American laws long term....you need to look at the facts.....these Muslim Sharia courts are real....85 operating in England already....

And yet there has been dozens of 'Beth din' jewish courts in the U.S. for decades. ....

 

[Faun]

Democrats must be desperate if they gotta bend over for 2% of the population...

And this is why Romney lost the election. It's 2% for gays ... it's 13% for blacks ... it's 17% for hispanics .... it's 47% for poor folks ...

.... you see, these percentages add up. Romney limited himself by targeting too narrow of an electorate.

that's why Obama is the racist he is.....

i'd say the blacks and hispanics make up most of that 47% poor.....BO hasn't done jackshit for them...

Say what?? How does that make Obama a racist?

 

[Faun]

killing a living human being, regardless of its location, is murder. But realistically I don't think taking a morning after pill is murder.

Since murder is a crime which violates U.S. law and abortion is not a crime in most cases; abortion is not murder.

words hhave meaning.

In today's current legal definition, yes - most forms of early abortion aren't considered murder.

However, during an abortion you are actively killing a living thing that is in the earliest stages of growing into an adult human being, so it most certainly can be argued that this IS murder. It's called a "grey area".

No, it cannot be argued that it's murder (at least not rationally). Words have meaning. Murder is a crime. Abortion is not. Therefore, abortion is not murder.

 

[bodecea]

most blue laws have already been voted gone...what's your beef with that....?

"christian sharia laws"......? i see we got another Christian-hater here....one who doesn't understand that America would never have become the great nation it did without Christian guidance and underpinnings...

The thing I always don't get is why Christians get the benefit of the doubt that they won't enforce the Ten Commandments absolutely (ie it will become law that people must not work Sunday, etc), whereas more and more peaceful Muslims are unfairly being accused of "eventually wanting to enforce" Shariah law absolutely.

Why the double standard? Not asking you necessarily Screaming Eagle, just bringing up the question.

since Christians founded this country have they established a theocracy here for over 200 years....? ...the answer is NO...

can atheists live in peace here....yes
can Hindus live in peace here....yes
can Muslims live in peace here...yes

however even though Muslims can live here peacefully that does not mean they will continue to follow American laws long term....you need to look at the facts.....these Muslim Sharia courts are real....85 operating in England already....

Muslims have been slowly attempting to establish their anti-American Sharia law here in the USA...in other words a theocracy....just as they have been doing in England and other places in Europe...if you are aware of what is going on there you might understand that the same is happening here just on a smaller scale...large groups of muslims are not assimilating into their adopted countries...and they are establishing their own theocratic laws which go against Western civilization....

So...Christians get some kind of pass on pushing their form of "sharia" on citizens?

 

[R.C. Christian]

Any real conservative won't let the "gay shit" go. Fags can go straight to hell.

 

[Mertex]

maybe you don't......but Democrats support Sharia law in the USA....

Bullshit.

here's a vid on the subject.....Dems protest the GOP platform that bans Sharia law.....why is that....got an answer....???

i thought Democrats supported women's rights......however since Dems support Sharia law i guess those rights won't be extended to muslim women in America....why???

You need to do some research as to why Democrats support the use of Sharia law....it's because we support women, American women who come from all over the world. You really don't know what you are talking about....apparently neither do the commentators on Faux News.

 

[bodecea]

however even though Muslims can live here peacefully that does not mean they will continue to follow American laws long term....you need to look at the facts.....these Muslim Sharia courts are real....85 operating in England already....

And yet there has been dozens of 'Beth din' jewish courts in the U.S. for decades. ....

Screaming Eagle...is that OK with you?

 

[Unkotare]

Any real conservative won't let the "gay shit" go. Fags can go straight to hell.

Why? To party with you for all eternity? You really gonna wait that long to come out of the closet, Francis?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

however even though Muslims can live here peacefully that does not mean they will continue to follow American laws long term....you need to look at the facts.....these Muslim Sharia courts are real....85 operating in England already....

And yet there has been dozens of 'Beth din' jewish courts in the U.S. for decades. ....

does a jewish court allow for the beating of a wife by the husband.....?

the difference between the two are as far apart as Western civilization is to the barbarians...

homos beware.....

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

What in the Fuck does American Law have to do with what is?...

American law sanctions marriage in the U.S., so it has everything to do with what is legal in terms of marriage. And given the Constitution does not permit discrimination against race or gender; and given the Constitution provides for equal protection for ALL; I don't see how gay marriage can be legally banned.

using that logic bigamy and polygamy also cannot be legally banned. Neither can beastiallity and pedifilia. After all, we would be discriminating against these people if we banned what they enjoy.

What it comes down to is that a society needs to set its moral and ethical limits, and they should be set by a majority vote, not some egghead judge sitting on his pompous ass in a courtroom.

Wrong again.

As already correctly noted, bigamy and polygamy can be Constitutionally prohibited because laws disallowing plural marriage are applied to everyone equally, no single class of persons is unlawfully excluded.

Moreover, the contract law that is marriage can accommodate same-sex couples, where it cannot accommodate bigamy and polygamy. Indeed, this is why there’s no such thing a ‘gay marriage,’ there’s only marriage law, as written by the states, where both opposite- and same-sex couples are eligible to enter into those marriage contracts.

The fact is, the states are at liberty to place reasonable restrictions on various activities, provided those restrictions are applied to everyone equally, singling out no particular class of persons for exclusion.

Last, the tired and failed bigamy and polygamy ‘argument’ is nothing more than a red herring fallacy and desperate demagoguery.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Bullshit.

here's a vid on the subject.....Dems protest the GOP platform that bans Sharia law.....why is that....got an answer....???

i thought Democrats supported women's rights......however since Dems support Sharia law i guess those rights won't be extended to muslim women in America....why???

You need to do some research as to why Democrats support the use of Sharia law....it's because we support women, American women who come from all over the world. You really don't know what you are talking about....apparently neither do the commentators on Faux News.

did you even watch the video.....? you come across like a really ignorant liberal....but don't feel too bad.....you've got lots of company....

 

[Sunni Man]

however even though Muslims can live here peacefully that does not mean they will continue to follow American laws long term....you need to look at the facts.....these Muslim Sharia courts are real....85 operating in England already....

And yet there has been dozens of 'Beth din' jewish courts in the U.S. for decades. ....

does a jewish court allow for the beating of a wife by the husband.....?

Both the jewish Beth din courts and the Sharia courts in England only deal with 'civil' law issues.

Domestic violence and other criminal acts are still handled by the regular court system and enforced by the police. ...

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Not at all accurate. The crimes you mention can be illegal since they are unifomly apply to everyone. There is no descrimination based on race or gender. That is why I believe the U.S. Constitution supports gay marriage where it doesn't support those other acts.

using your same logic you can also say that traditional marriage law does not discriminate either...

Of course it discriminates. It discriminates based on gender. It allows a man in love with a woman the right to legally marry the person he loves but discriminates against a man who is in love with another man.

That violates the 14th Amendment.

not when marriage is defined as between a man and a woman.....but then libs want to redefine marriage too....

the next step is to redefine marriage for polygamists....see where this gets you....?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

And yet there has been dozens of 'Beth din' jewish courts in the U.S. for decades. ....

does a jewish court allow for the beating of a wife by the husband.....?

Both the jewish Beth din courts and the Sharia courts in England only deal with 'civil' law issues.

Domestic violence and other criminal acts are still handled by the regular court system and enforced by the police. ...

not exactly true....when a woman lives in a Muslim ghetto she has no recourse to the outside world to complain about her husband's beatings...

 

[bodecea]

however even though Muslims can live here peacefully that does not mean they will continue to follow American laws long term....you need to look at the facts.....these Muslim Sharia courts are real....85 operating in England already....

And yet there has been dozens of 'Beth din' jewish courts in the U.S. for decades. ....

does a jewish court allow for the beating of a wife by the husband.....?

the difference between the two are as far apart as Western civilization is to the barbarians...

homos beware.....

Ok...what sharia court of any religion would be allowed to do that in this country?

 

[bodecea]

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does a jewish court allow for the beating of a wife by the husband.....?

Both the jewish Beth din courts and the Sharia courts in England only deal with 'civil' law issues.

Domestic violence and other criminal acts are still handled by the regular court system and enforced by the police. ...

not exactly true....when a woman lives in a Muslim ghetto she has no recourse to the outside world to complain about her husband's beatings...

All these mooslim ghettos here.....

 

[Faun]

using your same logic you can also say that traditional marriage law does not discriminate either...

Of course it discriminates. It discriminates based on gender. It allows a man in love with a woman the right to legally marry the person he loves but discriminates against a man who is in love with another man.

That violates the 14th Amendment.

Nothing stopping two men from living together or doing 'whatever' to each other. Nothing preventing them from owning property, getting a job, living where they want, travelling, etc.

Which of course, has nothing to do with the law discriminating against gays based on the gender of the person they wish to marry.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

And yet there has been dozens of 'Beth din' jewish courts in the U.S. for decades. ....

does a jewish court allow for the beating of a wife by the husband.....?

the difference between the two are as far apart as Western civilization is to the barbarians...

homos beware.....

Ok...what sharia court of any religion would be allowed to do that in this country?

through the permission of a sharia court of secularism....

 

[bodecea]

does a jewish court allow for the beating of a wife by the husband.....?

the difference between the two are as far apart as Western civilization is to the barbarians...

homos beware.....

Ok...what sharia court of any religion would be allowed to do that in this country?

through the permission of a sharia court of secularism....

Oh? Give an example.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Ok...what sharia court of any religion would be allowed to do that in this country?

through the permission of a sharia court of secularism....

Oh? Give an example.

there was one described in the video i posted.....New Jersey i believe...