Rittenhouse hit by another Lawsuit

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No...killing someone who is trying to kill you is self defense.

Hmm, no, it has been stated pretty clearly that Grosskreutz pointing his gun at Kyle justified Kyle using deadly force against him.

I know that you agree. Right?

 

[struth]

Funny that you bring up my comprehension when you twice misunderstood my comment.

1. I didn’t call you Rittenhouse
2. I didn’t imply he was talking about the same trial as you.

I was talking about his claims that he guarantees soros funding… but he doesn’t know for sure…. But he guarantees it. Haha. That sounds like you.

Get it now??

you made the claim i claimed it. I didn’t

 

[struth]

Did you think I said you were Rittenhouse?!

i didn’t understand the point of your post

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Hmm, no, it has been stated pretty clearly that Grosskreutz pointing his gun at Kyle justified Kyle using deadly force against him.

I know that you agree. Right?

Grosskreutz was attempting to sneak up on Kyle and murder him.

Kyle fired upon no one that wasn’t attacking him.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Grosskreutz was attempting to sneak up on Kyle and murder him.

Kyle fired upon no one that wasn’t attacking him.

I didn't claim or imply otherwise.

But thanks.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

I didn't claim or imply otherwise.

But thanks.

Given your prior advocacy for the murder of Kyle, I doubt that very much.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Given your prior advocacy for the murder of Kyle, I doubt that very much.

I don't care.

I also said nothing about murder.

 

[Missourian]

Hmm, no, it has been stated pretty clearly that Grosskreutz pointing his gun at Kyle justified Kyle using deadly force against him.

I know that you agree. Right?

I think it was proven that Gaige was the aggressor.

Gaige was chasing Kyle.

Kyle could have shot Gaige at any time if he was a mass shooter as Gaige claimed he believed...but Kyle didn't shoot Gaige UNTIL Gaige advanced on him and raised his weapon.

I mean, you're getting into pretty advanced stuff...but what it really comes down to is Gaige didn't know what had happened and if you're going to be the aggressor...you better be right.

In this case he wasn't right. Kyle wasn't a mass shooter, he was defending himself.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I think it was proven that Gaige was the aggressor.

Gaige was chasing Kyle.

Kyle could have shot Gaige at any time if he was a mass shooter as Gaige claimed he believed...but Kyle didn't shoot Gaige UNTIL Gaige advanced on him and raised his weapon.

I mean, you're getting into pretty advanced stuff...but what it really comes down to is Gaige didn't know what had happened and if you're going to be the aggressor...you better be right.

In this case he wasn't right. Kyle wasn't a mass shooter, he was defending himself.

Okay. But in the end, it was fund that Kyle was justified in using deadly force because Grosskreutz pointed a deadly weapon at him.

We learned at trial that Kyle had pointed his weapon at several people earlier in the evening.

So...

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

I don't care.

I give two shits about what you care about - you should join Rosenbaum and Huber.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I give two shits about what you care about - you should join Rosenbaum and Huber.

Cry it all out, son.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Hmm, no, it has been stated pretty clearly that Grosskreutz pointing his gun at Kyle justified Kyle using deadly force against him.

I know that you agree. Right?

Interestingly, the same argument could be made by GK, that he was trying to stop an active shooter in reasonable fear of his life or grievous bodily harm (which he did in fact receive). This is where it gets tricky and/or fun!

BG one that tried to jump Rittenhouse from behind - thats righteous self defense. Although the ones after that are linked, had they live (or GK) they could argue self defense as well, if they saw a shooter and reasonably believed he was a threat.

 

[Missourian]

Okay. But in the end, it was fund that Kyle was justified in using deadly force because Grosskreutz pointed a deadly weapon at him.

We learned at trial that Kyle had pointed his weapon at several people earlier in the evening.

So...

Can you provide a link to that?

Context matters.

I haven't read this so I'd like to see the circumstances where this occurred before I respond.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Can you provide a link to that?

Context matters.

I haven't read this so I'd like to see the circumstances where this occurred before I respond.

Nah, just assume as true for discussion.

So..?

 

[Auld Phart]

The Second Amendment is the law, and it is higher than all of the lesser laws that violate it.

and yet, there are over 20.000 laws on the books infringing on it.

Because of the 10th

 

[Bob Blaylock]

yes, bud, you are a moron, and that you have no respect for law.

The Second Amendment is the law, and it is higher than all of the lesser laws that violate it.

In disagreeing with my post, Hugo Furst, what are you disputing exactly?

Do you deny that the Second Amendment is the law?

Do you deny that as part of the Constitution is the highest law in this country, and that as part thereof, the Second Amendment itself is higher than, and takes precedence over any other law that contradicts it?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

and yet, there are over 20.000 laws on the books infringing on it.

Because of the 10th

All that means is that those 20,000 other laws are illegal. And the Tenth has nothing to do with it. No rational interpretation of the Tenth Amendment implies any power on the part of any level of government to violate explicitly-affirmed Constitutional rights.

 

[Fueri]

Can you provide a link to that?

Context matters.

I haven't read this so I'd like to see the circumstances where this occurred before I respond.

During the trial it was never established that Rittenhouse provoked anyone.

Here's what legal experts say helped acquit Kyle Rittenhouse | CNN

After more than 25 hours of deliberations, a 12-person jury acquitted Kyle Rittenhouse of all five charges he faced after fatally shooting two people and wounding a third during protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin, last summer.

www.cnn.com

“The prosecution … has to disprove self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt to all 12 jurors. How do you do that when you saw no real provocation going on?” Bianchi said. “There wasn’t a real trial lawyer … that didn’t sit here and say this is an amazingly good self-defense case.”

 

[Delldude]

He won't win.just paying legal expenses will bankrupt him forever.

I think Ritt is sitting on something like 200 million and has more coming.

 

[Missourian]

Nah, just assume as true for discussion.

So..?

If you want to run a hypothetically, we can do that...but this thread is about an actual trial with real life events.

We should stick to that in this thread.