Rush, the GOP establish are still missing the point...

[healthmyths]

I was listening to Rush the other day and he was correctly decrying the GOP leadership as wanting to get rid of conservatives, i.e. Tea party etc. and I kept waiting for him to point out the major deficiency of the GOP establishment. The GOP establishment is so concerned with trying to be the all inclusive party, i.e. have to appeal to Hispanics, to Millennials, to women that leaders are trying to make the GOP --"Democrat Lite"!
Fundamental to that is the false belief that the GOP must be appealing to the Mainstream media.
That's why McCain was the nominee because the MSM wanted McCain.
They knew he would be beaten by their choice Obama.

And so to this day's political climate in that the GOP leadership still hasn't learned the MSM is NOT their
Friend! The GOP leadership and the MSM don't like Trump or Cruz... but surprise, surprise !! We the vast unwashed population are sufficiently pissed at the MSM and GOP establishment to show we are ...

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The "establishment" hates Cruz because he won't play along.

They hate Trump because he was a liberal not so long ago.

 

[imawhosure]

I was listening to Rush the other day and he was correctly decrying the GOP leadership as wanting to get rid of conservatives, i.e. Tea party etc. and I kept waiting for him to point out the major deficiency of the GOP establishment. The GOP establishment is so concerned with trying to be the all inclusive party, i.e. have to appeal to Hispanics, to Millennials, to women that leaders are trying to make the GOP --"Democrat Lite"!
Fundamental to that is the false belief that the GOP must be appealing to the Mainstream media.
That's why McCain was the nominee because the MSM wanted McCain.
They knew he would be beaten by their choice Obama.

And so to this day's political climate in that the GOP leadership still hasn't learned the MSM is NOT their
Friend! The GOP leadership and the MSM don't like Trump or Cruz... but surprise, surprise !! We the vast unwashed population are sufficiently pissed at the MSM and GOP establishment to show we are ...

The MSM and the establishment has picked our candidate since we revolted and picked Reagan. And what have they given us?

1. Bush senior, 1 term, read my lips, no new taxes.

2. Bob Dole.

3. GW, the biggest spender in history after Obama. He got re-elected, spent more, and guided us into the housing crisis. Not because he had no clue it could happen, but because he wouldn't stand up the Crats.

4. John Mcain, another rino, he is the only person who can win. Did he?

5. Romney, and one of the worst Presidents in modern history got re-elected, and pushed us down the road towards European Socialism even further. He also was the only person who could get elected in the world according to the MSM and the rino establishment.

And so I ask.............with their track record of picking winners; and when they do pick a winner like GW and he does the lefty lite thing, why in the world would we EVER listen to them!

The establishment has 0 (let me spell that for you Z-E-R-O) credibility. So anyone who wants to tell us that so-and-so is the only person who can win; or on the other hand, if we put up so-and-so they will lose, is just pretending they know something THIS time, that they couldn't figure out, and screwed up the last 5 times.

Call me cynical, but I ain't buying it; and even if you are correct, big deal. If you would have been correct and taken care of business the last 5 freakin times, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today as a country. YOU establishment fools opened the door for Barack, Hussein, Obama; and now you are trying to tell us to close the barn door after the horse has already bolted.

In other words, SCREW THE ESTABLISHMENT, the phony-baloney, good time rock-n-roll, Washington elite screw ups.

Let the Crats run one of those, we are going to run someone who will at least fu** with them in our name!

 

[NightFox]

I was listening to Rush the other day and he was correctly decrying the GOP leadership as wanting to get rid of conservatives, i.e. Tea party etc. and I kept waiting for him to point out the major deficiency of the GOP establishment.

Why would he do that? Rush Limbaugh is part of the GOP "establishment", he's been an integral part of the GOP machinery for decades.

 

[imawhosure]

I was listening to Rush the other day and he was correctly decrying the GOP leadership as wanting to get rid of conservatives, i.e. Tea party etc. and I kept waiting for him to point out the major deficiency of the GOP establishment. The GOP establishment is so concerned with trying to be the all inclusive party, i.e. have to appeal to Hispanics, to Millennials, to women that leaders are trying to make the GOP --"Democrat Lite"!
Fundamental to that is the false belief that the GOP must be appealing to the Mainstream media.
That's why McCain was the nominee because the MSM wanted McCain.
They knew he would be beaten by their choice Obama.

And so to this day's political climate in that the GOP leadership still hasn't learned the MSM is NOT their
Friend! The GOP leadership and the MSM don't like Trump or Cruz... but surprise, surprise !! We the vast unwashed population are sufficiently pissed at the MSM and GOP establishment to show we are ...

And let me add this---------> (sorry, I am pissed) If it weren't for Bill Clinton and the "contract with America Republicans........who the establishment stood against I might remind all of you, (the rino establishment) we would be so fu**** we would already be done!

So that should tell us, that after Reagan, the FREAKIN BEST the rino's came up with, was a Democratic administration, kept in control by a Republican congress, that the rinos did not want!

Rino's..........go to HELL, go directly to HELL......do not pass go.........and do NOT collect 200 dollars!

 

[NightFox]

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And let me add this---------> (sorry, I am pissed) If it weren't for Bill Clinton and the "contract with America Republicans........who the establishment stood against I might remind all of you, (the rino establishment) we would be so fu**** we would already be done!

So that should tell us, that after Reagan, the FREAKIN BEST the rino's came up with, was a Democratic administration, kept in control by a Republican congress, that the rinos did not want!

Rino's..........go to HELL, go directly to HELL......do not pass go.........and do NOT collect 200 dollars!

No kidding, the GOP is not/nor has been the Party of Goldwater and Reagan for some time, it's all politics no principles and damn sure none of the sunny optimism of Reagan.

 

[g5000]

I was listening to Rush the other day and he was correctly decrying the GOP leadership as wanting to get rid of conservatives, i.e. Tea party etc.

"Tea Party" and "conservatives" are not synonyms. But yes, the GOP Establishment has been trying to get rid of Tea Partiers, and they have been very successful at it.

The GOP establishment is so concerned with trying to be the all inclusive party, i.e. have to appeal to Hispanics, to Millennials, to women...

BWA-HA-HA-HA! No, they are not. In fact, they are doing everything they can to alienate minorities and to pander to bigots and retards.

 

[g5000]

The original Tea Partiers were libertarians, with a few whackjobs seeded in here and there.

Now they have managed to eliminate all the libertarians.

 

[bendog]

I was listening to Rush the other day and he was correctly decrying the GOP leadership as wanting to get rid of conservatives, i.e. Tea party etc. and I kept waiting for him to point out the major deficiency of the GOP establishment. The GOP establishment is so concerned with trying to be the all inclusive party, i.e. have to appeal to Hispanics, to Millennials, to women that leaders are trying to make the GOP --"Democrat Lite"!
Fundamental to that is the false belief that the GOP must be appealing to the Mainstream media.
That's why McCain was the nominee because the MSM wanted McCain.
They knew he would be beaten by their choice Obama.

And so to this day's political climate in that the GOP leadership still hasn't learned the MSM is NOT their
Friend! The GOP leadership and the MSM don't like Trump or Cruz... but surprise, surprise !! We the vast unwashed population are sufficiently pissed at the MSM and GOP establishment to show we are ...

The MSM and the establishment has picked our candidate since we revolted and picked Reagan. And what have they given us?

1. Bush senior, 1 term, read my lips, no new taxes.

2. Bob Dole.

3. GW, the biggest spender in history after Obama. He got re-elected, spent more, and guided us into the housing crisis. Not because he had no clue it could happen, but because he wouldn't stand up the Crats.

4. John Mcain, another rino, he is the only person who can win. Did he?

5. Romney, and one of the worst Presidents in modern history got re-elected, and pushed us down the road towards European Socialism even further. He also was the only person who could get elected in the world according to the MSM and the rino establishment.

And so I ask.............with their track record of picking winners; and when they do pick a winner like GW and he does the lefty lite thing, why in the world would we EVER listen to them!

The establishment has 0 (let me spell that for you Z-E-R-O) credibility. So anyone who wants to tell us that so-and-so is the only person who can win; or on the other hand, if we put up so-and-so they will lose, is just pretending they know something THIS time, that they couldn't figure out, and screwed up the last 5 times.

Call me cynical, but I ain't buying it; and even if you are correct, big deal. If you would have been correct and taken care of business the last 5 freakin times, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today as a country. YOU establishment fools opened the door for Barack, Hussein, Obama; and now you are trying to tell us to close the barn door after the horse has already bolted.

In other words, SCREW THE ESTABLISHMENT, the phony-baloney, good time rock-n-roll, Washington elite screw ups.

Let the Crats run one of those, we are going to run someone who will at least fu** with them in our name!

The establishment is fine with Donald. It's Cruz they fear.

 

[healthmyths]

I was listening to Rush the other day and he was correctly decrying the GOP leadership as wanting to get rid of conservatives, i.e. Tea party etc. and I kept waiting for him to point out the major deficiency of the GOP establishment. The GOP establishment is so concerned with trying to be the all inclusive party, i.e. have to appeal to Hispanics, to Millennials, to women that leaders are trying to make the GOP --"Democrat Lite"!
Fundamental to that is the false belief that the GOP must be appealing to the Mainstream media.
That's why McCain was the nominee because the MSM wanted McCain.
They knew he would be beaten by their choice Obama.

And so to this day's political climate in that the GOP leadership still hasn't learned the MSM is NOT their
Friend! The GOP leadership and the MSM don't like Trump or Cruz... but surprise, surprise !! We the vast unwashed population are sufficiently pissed at the MSM and GOP establishment to show we are ...

The MSM and the establishment has picked our candidate since we revolted and picked Reagan. And what have they given us?

1. Bush senior, 1 term, read my lips, no new taxes.

2. Bob Dole.

3. GW, the biggest spender in history after Obama. He got re-elected, spent more, and guided us into the housing crisis. Not because he had no clue it could happen, but because he wouldn't stand up the Crats.

4. John Mcain, another rino, he is the only person who can win. Did he?

5. Romney, and one of the worst Presidents in modern history got re-elected, and pushed us down the road towards European Socialism even further. He also was the only person who could get elected in the world according to the MSM and the rino establishment.

And so I ask.............with their track record of picking winners; and when they do pick a winner like GW and he does the lefty lite thing, why in the world would we EVER listen to them!

The establishment has 0 (let me spell that for you Z-E-R-O) credibility. So anyone who wants to tell us that so-and-so is the only person who can win; or on the other hand, if we put up so-and-so they will lose, is just pretending they know something THIS time, that they couldn't figure out, and screwed up the last 5 times.

Call me cynical, but I ain't buying it; and even if you are correct, big deal. If you would have been correct and taken care of business the last 5 freakin times, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today as a country. YOU establishment fools opened the door for Barack, Hussein, Obama; and now you are trying to tell us to close the barn door after the horse has already bolted.

In other words, SCREW THE ESTABLISHMENT, the phony-baloney, good time rock-n-roll, Washington elite screw ups.

Let the Crats run one of those, we are going to run someone who will at least fu** with them in our name!

GW... biggest spender??? Where is your proof???
We won in Iraq. The MSM kept badgering the majority of uninformed people about Iraq and that's why we have ISIS!
Why can't you people recognize that when Democrats like these said things like this it HELPED prolong Iraq and created ISIS!

Senator Obama(D) .."troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "War is lost",
U.S. Rep. Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”
Senator Kerry(D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."

But this gross gross biased attitude about GWB being a big spender... HERE are the FACTS Please read carefully!

2000 $236.2 billion surplus
2001 $128.2 billion surplus
2002 $157.8 billion deficit.. also 9/11 occurred and tax revenues lowered for years later
2003 $377.6 billion deficit.. BRAND new cabinet Homeland Security, plus loans made to businesses.. again tax revenues down..affect of 9/11
2004 $412.7 billion deficit.. Revenues up by 5.5% spending increased and economy getting back.
2005 $318.3 billion deficit.. revenues up by 14.5% deficit decreasing at rate of 22%
2006 $248.2 billion deficit.. revenues up by 11.7% deficit decrease 22%
2007 $160.7 billion deficit.. revenues up by 6.7% deficit decrease 35%
2008 $458.6 billion deficit.. revenues down and deficit INCREASED TARP loan mostly...
Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

NOW as far as TARP... ALL paid back and made a profit!
So please get off of this Bush BASHING because NOT ONE president in history faced what GWB did!

Again Clinton laid claim to dot bubble but BUT Bush experienced the bust!
Someone had to pay and it occurred during Bush's first year! $5 trillion in market losses MEAN lost tax revenue PLUS JOBS!!!!
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 - and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets.
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Are you aware this happened???
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: 10 Events That Rocked the Financial World

SO AGAIN you totally ignorant people like you don't seem to know THOSE ARE BUSINESS LOSSES as well as NO INCOME coming in to the
companies!
Remember the Anthrax Attacks...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others.
I lived through it and like millions had hesitation to open any suspicious envelope. That happened millions of times!

$1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history.
Again idiots like you TOTALLY forget these were the worst hurricane SEASONS in history! The worst! No presidency every faced the following:
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005.
It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages.
It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters | Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of :
a) 400,000 jobs lost due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs lost in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts...
In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property.. IN SPITE of that:

AFTER the tax cuts Federal Tax REVENUES Increased an average of 9.78% per year!!!
Government Revenue Details: Federal State Local for 2008 - Charts

 

[imawhosure]

I was listening to Rush the other day and he was correctly decrying the GOP leadership as wanting to get rid of conservatives, i.e. Tea party etc. and I kept waiting for him to point out the major deficiency of the GOP establishment. The GOP establishment is so concerned with trying to be the all inclusive party, i.e. have to appeal to Hispanics, to Millennials, to women that leaders are trying to make the GOP --"Democrat Lite"!
Fundamental to that is the false belief that the GOP must be appealing to the Mainstream media.
That's why McCain was the nominee because the MSM wanted McCain.
They knew he would be beaten by their choice Obama.

And so to this day's political climate in that the GOP leadership still hasn't learned the MSM is NOT their
Friend! The GOP leadership and the MSM don't like Trump or Cruz... but surprise, surprise !! We the vast unwashed population are sufficiently pissed at the MSM and GOP establishment to show we are ...

The MSM and the establishment has picked our candidate since we revolted and picked Reagan. And what have they given us?

1. Bush senior, 1 term, read my lips, no new taxes.

2. Bob Dole.

3. GW, the biggest spender in history after Obama. He got re-elected, spent more, and guided us into the housing crisis. Not because he had no clue it could happen, but because he wouldn't stand up the Crats.

4. John Mcain, another rino, he is the only person who can win. Did he?

5. Romney, and one of the worst Presidents in modern history got re-elected, and pushed us down the road towards European Socialism even further. He also was the only person who could get elected in the world according to the MSM and the rino establishment.

And so I ask.............with their track record of picking winners; and when they do pick a winner like GW and he does the lefty lite thing, why in the world would we EVER listen to them!

The establishment has 0 (let me spell that for you Z-E-R-O) credibility. So anyone who wants to tell us that so-and-so is the only person who can win; or on the other hand, if we put up so-and-so they will lose, is just pretending they know something THIS time, that they couldn't figure out, and screwed up the last 5 times.

Call me cynical, but I ain't buying it; and even if you are correct, big deal. If you would have been correct and taken care of business the last 5 freakin times, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today as a country. YOU establishment fools opened the door for Barack, Hussein, Obama; and now you are trying to tell us to close the barn door after the horse has already bolted.

In other words, SCREW THE ESTABLISHMENT, the phony-baloney, good time rock-n-roll, Washington elite screw ups.

Let the Crats run one of those, we are going to run someone who will at least fu** with them in our name!

GW... biggest spender??? Where is your proof???
We won in Iraq. The MSM kept badgering the majority of uninformed people about Iraq and that's why we have ISIS!
Why can't you people recognize that when Democrats like these said things like this it HELPED prolong Iraq and created ISIS!

Senator Obama(D) .."troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "War is lost",
U.S. Rep. Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”
Senator Kerry(D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."

But this gross gross biased attitude about GWB being a big spender... HERE are the FACTS Please read carefully!

2000 $236.2 billion surplus
2001 $128.2 billion surplus
2002 $157.8 billion deficit.. also 9/11 occurred and tax revenues lowered for years later
2003 $377.6 billion deficit.. BRAND new cabinet Homeland Security, plus loans made to businesses.. again tax revenues down..affect of 9/11
2004 $412.7 billion deficit.. Revenues up by 5.5% spending increased and economy getting back.
2005 $318.3 billion deficit.. revenues up by 14.5% deficit decreasing at rate of 22%
2006 $248.2 billion deficit.. revenues up by 11.7% deficit decrease 22%
2007 $160.7 billion deficit.. revenues up by 6.7% deficit decrease 35%
2008 $458.6 billion deficit.. revenues down and deficit INCREASED TARP loan mostly...
Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

NOW as far as TARP... ALL paid back and made a profit!
So please get off of this Bush BASHING because NOT ONE president in history faced what GWB did!

Again Clinton laid claim to dot bubble but BUT Bush experienced the bust!
Someone had to pay and it occurred during Bush's first year! $5 trillion in market losses MEAN lost tax revenue PLUS JOBS!!!!
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 - and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets.
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Are you aware this happened???
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: 10 Events That Rocked the Financial World

SO AGAIN you totally ignorant people like you don't seem to know THOSE ARE BUSINESS LOSSES as well as NO INCOME coming in to the
companies!
Remember the Anthrax Attacks...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others.
I lived through it and like millions had hesitation to open any suspicious envelope. That happened millions of times!

$1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history.
Again idiots like you TOTALLY forget these were the worst hurricane SEASONS in history! The worst! No presidency every faced the following:
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005.
It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages.
It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters | Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of :
a) 400,000 jobs lost due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs lost in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts...
In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property.. IN SPITE of that:

AFTER the tax cuts Federal Tax REVENUES Increased an average of 9.78% per year!!!
Government Revenue Details: Federal State Local for 2008 - Charts

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No offense, but if you want to defend GW, more power to you. The man screwed the pooch, because he allowed the Crats to pretend all was well with Fannie and Freddie. He was also the most prolific spender after Obama.

I don't care why he was, excuses are like rearends, everybody has one. Obama has excuses for his massive spending too. How do you like his?

This last 16 years as of Jan of 17, are going to go down in history when the books are written as total fail. If you want to try an extricate one of these people and make them a victim, go ahead. The Democrats are doing the same thing with Obama. Maybe the bunch of you ought to get together and exchange notes on how to make dog poop, come out smelling like roses.

Good luck with all of that!

 

[healthmyths]

I was listening to Rush the other day and he was correctly decrying the GOP leadership as wanting to get rid of conservatives, i.e. Tea party etc. and I kept waiting for him to point out the major deficiency of the GOP establishment. The GOP establishment is so concerned with trying to be the all inclusive party, i.e. have to appeal to Hispanics, to Millennials, to women that leaders are trying to make the GOP --"Democrat Lite"!
Fundamental to that is the false belief that the GOP must be appealing to the Mainstream media.
That's why McCain was the nominee because the MSM wanted McCain.
They knew he would be beaten by their choice Obama.

And so to this day's political climate in that the GOP leadership still hasn't learned the MSM is NOT their
Friend! The GOP leadership and the MSM don't like Trump or Cruz... but surprise, surprise !! We the vast unwashed population are sufficiently pissed at the MSM and GOP establishment to show we are ...

The MSM and the establishment has picked our candidate since we revolted and picked Reagan. And what have they given us?

1. Bush senior, 1 term, read my lips, no new taxes.

2. Bob Dole.

3. GW, the biggest spender in history after Obama. He got re-elected, spent more, and guided us into the housing crisis. Not because he had no clue it could happen, but because he wouldn't stand up the Crats.

4. John Mcain, another rino, he is the only person who can win. Did he?

5. Romney, and one of the worst Presidents in modern history got re-elected, and pushed us down the road towards European Socialism even further. He also was the only person who could get elected in the world according to the MSM and the rino establishment.

And so I ask.............with their track record of picking winners; and when they do pick a winner like GW and he does the lefty lite thing, why in the world would we EVER listen to them!

The establishment has 0 (let me spell that for you Z-E-R-O) credibility. So anyone who wants to tell us that so-and-so is the only person who can win; or on the other hand, if we put up so-and-so they will lose, is just pretending they know something THIS time, that they couldn't figure out, and screwed up the last 5 times.

Call me cynical, but I ain't buying it; and even if you are correct, big deal. If you would have been correct and taken care of business the last 5 freakin times, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today as a country. YOU establishment fools opened the door for Barack, Hussein, Obama; and now you are trying to tell us to close the barn door after the horse has already bolted.

In other words, SCREW THE ESTABLISHMENT, the phony-baloney, good time rock-n-roll, Washington elite screw ups.

Let the Crats run one of those, we are going to run someone who will at least fu** with them in our name!

GW... biggest spender??? Where is your proof???
We won in Iraq. The MSM kept badgering the majority of uninformed people about Iraq and that's why we have ISIS!
Why can't you people recognize that when Democrats like these said things like this it HELPED prolong Iraq and created ISIS!

Senator Obama(D) .."troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "War is lost",
U.S. Rep. Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”
Senator Kerry(D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."

But this gross gross biased attitude about GWB being a big spender... HERE are the FACTS Please read carefully!

2000 $236.2 billion surplus
2001 $128.2 billion surplus
2002 $157.8 billion deficit.. also 9/11 occurred and tax revenues lowered for years later
2003 $377.6 billion deficit.. BRAND new cabinet Homeland Security, plus loans made to businesses.. again tax revenues down..affect of 9/11
2004 $412.7 billion deficit.. Revenues up by 5.5% spending increased and economy getting back.
2005 $318.3 billion deficit.. revenues up by 14.5% deficit decreasing at rate of 22%
2006 $248.2 billion deficit.. revenues up by 11.7% deficit decrease 22%
2007 $160.7 billion deficit.. revenues up by 6.7% deficit decrease 35%
2008 $458.6 billion deficit.. revenues down and deficit INCREASED TARP loan mostly...
Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

NOW as far as TARP... ALL paid back and made a profit!
So please get off of this Bush BASHING because NOT ONE president in history faced what GWB did!

Again Clinton laid claim to dot bubble but BUT Bush experienced the bust!
Someone had to pay and it occurred during Bush's first year! $5 trillion in market losses MEAN lost tax revenue PLUS JOBS!!!!
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 - and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets.
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Are you aware this happened???
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: 10 Events That Rocked the Financial World

SO AGAIN you totally ignorant people like you don't seem to know THOSE ARE BUSINESS LOSSES as well as NO INCOME coming in to the
companies!
Remember the Anthrax Attacks...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others.
I lived through it and like millions had hesitation to open any suspicious envelope. That happened millions of times!

$1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history.
Again idiots like you TOTALLY forget these were the worst hurricane SEASONS in history! The worst! No presidency every faced the following:
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005.
It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages.
It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters | Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of :
a) 400,000 jobs lost due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs lost in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts...
In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property.. IN SPITE of that:

AFTER the tax cuts Federal Tax REVENUES Increased an average of 9.78% per year!!!
Government Revenue Details: Federal State Local for 2008 - Charts

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No offense, but if you want to defend GW, more power to you. The man screwed the pooch, because he allowed the Crats to pretend all was well with Fannie and Freddie. He was also the most prolific spender after Obama.

I don't care why he was, excuses are like rearends, everybody has one. Obama has excuses for his massive spending too. How do you like his?

This last 16 years as of Jan of 17, are going to go down in history when the books are written as total fail. If you want to try an extricate one of these people and make them a victim, go ahead. The Democrats are doing the same thing with Obama. Maybe the bunch of you ought to get together and exchange notes on how to make dog poop, come out smelling like roses.

Good luck with all of that!

But prove he was the most prolific spender! That's what I'm asking.
What would YOU do if there was A) a recession...B) $5 trillion loss in market value C) worst attack in US history D) Anthrax E) FACTS Iraq had WMDs F)
and worst hurricane SEASONS in history? All these factors and you bitch about GWB being worst spender?
What do you think those above events COSTs?
But more importantly as I've continued to point out the MSM bias helped cause a lot of your opinion about GWB. And you don't seem to comprehend that!
Even your contention as being a "spender" is based on MSM completely ignoring those factors as you have!
Please explain what YOU would have done differently if your experts told you Saddam was willing to starve 144,000 kids a year by not signing the certification he
had no WMDs? Almost everyone concluded the Iraq resumption of the 1991 Cease Fire..(do you understand there never was a peace treaty with Iraq) and yet
you call GWB part of the problem? NEVER NEVER heard GWB call our troops for "air-raiding villages, killing civilians" or "terrorists" as Kerry did or that the "war is lost"
as Reid or Murtha calling our troops cold blooded killers! Yet you don't seem to regard that as helping prolong Iraq. NO I'm not defending GWB I'm stating facts
which evidently most people don't seem to remember or ever knew!

 

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I was listening to Rush the other day and he was correctly decrying the GOP leadership as wanting to get rid of conservatives, i.e. Tea party etc. and I kept waiting for him to point out the major deficiency of the GOP establishment. The GOP establishment is so concerned with trying to be the all inclusive party, i.e. have to appeal to Hispanics, to Millennials, to women that leaders are trying to make the GOP --"Democrat Lite"!
Fundamental to that is the false belief that the GOP must be appealing to the Mainstream media.
That's why McCain was the nominee because the MSM wanted McCain.
They knew he would be beaten by their choice Obama.

And so to this day's political climate in that the GOP leadership still hasn't learned the MSM is NOT their
Friend! The GOP leadership and the MSM don't like Trump or Cruz... but surprise, surprise !! We the vast unwashed population are sufficiently pissed at the MSM and GOP establishment to show we are ...

The MSM and the establishment has picked our candidate since we revolted and picked Reagan. And what have they given us?

1. Bush senior, 1 term, read my lips, no new taxes.

2. Bob Dole.

3. GW, the biggest spender in history after Obama. He got re-elected, spent more, and guided us into the housing crisis. Not because he had no clue it could happen, but because he wouldn't stand up the Crats.

4. John Mcain, another rino, he is the only person who can win. Did he?

5. Romney, and one of the worst Presidents in modern history got re-elected, and pushed us down the road towards European Socialism even further. He also was the only person who could get elected in the world according to the MSM and the rino establishment.

And so I ask.............with their track record of picking winners; and when they do pick a winner like GW and he does the lefty lite thing, why in the world would we EVER listen to them!

The establishment has 0 (let me spell that for you Z-E-R-O) credibility. So anyone who wants to tell us that so-and-so is the only person who can win; or on the other hand, if we put up so-and-so they will lose, is just pretending they know something THIS time, that they couldn't figure out, and screwed up the last 5 times.

Call me cynical, but I ain't buying it; and even if you are correct, big deal. If you would have been correct and taken care of business the last 5 freakin times, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today as a country. YOU establishment fools opened the door for Barack, Hussein, Obama; and now you are trying to tell us to close the barn door after the horse has already bolted.

In other words, SCREW THE ESTABLISHMENT, the phony-baloney, good time rock-n-roll, Washington elite screw ups.

Let the Crats run one of those, we are going to run someone who will at least fu** with them in our name!

GW... biggest spender??? Where is your proof???
We won in Iraq. The MSM kept badgering the majority of uninformed people about Iraq and that's why we have ISIS!
Why can't you people recognize that when Democrats like these said things like this it HELPED prolong Iraq and created ISIS!

Senator Obama(D) .."troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "War is lost",
U.S. Rep. Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”
Senator Kerry(D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."

But this gross gross biased attitude about GWB being a big spender... HERE are the FACTS Please read carefully!

2000 $236.2 billion surplus
2001 $128.2 billion surplus
2002 $157.8 billion deficit.. also 9/11 occurred and tax revenues lowered for years later
2003 $377.6 billion deficit.. BRAND new cabinet Homeland Security, plus loans made to businesses.. again tax revenues down..affect of 9/11
2004 $412.7 billion deficit.. Revenues up by 5.5% spending increased and economy getting back.
2005 $318.3 billion deficit.. revenues up by 14.5% deficit decreasing at rate of 22%
2006 $248.2 billion deficit.. revenues up by 11.7% deficit decrease 22%
2007 $160.7 billion deficit.. revenues up by 6.7% deficit decrease 35%
2008 $458.6 billion deficit.. revenues down and deficit INCREASED TARP loan mostly...
Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

NOW as far as TARP... ALL paid back and made a profit!
So please get off of this Bush BASHING because NOT ONE president in history faced what GWB did!

Again Clinton laid claim to dot bubble but BUT Bush experienced the bust!
Someone had to pay and it occurred during Bush's first year! $5 trillion in market losses MEAN lost tax revenue PLUS JOBS!!!!
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 - and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets.
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Are you aware this happened???
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: 10 Events That Rocked the Financial World

SO AGAIN you totally ignorant people like you don't seem to know THOSE ARE BUSINESS LOSSES as well as NO INCOME coming in to the
companies!
Remember the Anthrax Attacks...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others.
I lived through it and like millions had hesitation to open any suspicious envelope. That happened millions of times!

$1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history.
Again idiots like you TOTALLY forget these were the worst hurricane SEASONS in history! The worst! No presidency every faced the following:
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005.
It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages.
It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters | Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of :
a) 400,000 jobs lost due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs lost in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts...
In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property.. IN SPITE of that:

AFTER the tax cuts Federal Tax REVENUES Increased an average of 9.78% per year!!!
Government Revenue Details: Federal State Local for 2008 - Charts

View attachment 61223

No offense, but if you want to defend GW, more power to you. The man screwed the pooch, because he allowed the Crats to pretend all was well with Fannie and Freddie. He was also the most prolific spender after Obama.

I don't care why he was, excuses are like rearends, everybody has one. Obama has excuses for his massive spending too. How do you like his?

This last 16 years as of Jan of 17, are going to go down in history when the books are written as total fail. If you want to try an extricate one of these people and make them a victim, go ahead. The Democrats are doing the same thing with Obama. Maybe the bunch of you ought to get together and exchange notes on how to make dog poop, come out smelling like roses.

Good luck with all of that!

As far as Obama's excuses for his spending NONE! NOTHING. He is a liar..(never were 46 million uninsured) and told us he was going to lie to us.
So Obama's had all the breaks and all he's done is further destroy the USA.
So I'll never defend Obama because the FACTS are he is the absolute worst President and the MSM made him the President! Again that's the purpose of this
thread being the MSM has been the major culprit in the continual destruction of the USA encouraging Obama to facilitate it!