San Fran spends over $300,000 registering 49 non citiznes to vote

[MindWars]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

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5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

 

[boedicca]

The excuse was that this was only for local items such as the school board.

People white on the sidewalks in SF, but $300K gets wasted on this insanity.

 

[MindWars]

The excuse was that this was only for local items such as the school board.

People white on the sidewalks in SF, but $300K gets wasted on this insanity.

All I know is we can never let these mental nut jobs take over for a long, long time. Dems are fkn nuts man honest to gawd they are fkn crazy.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

• 

5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

San Francisco’s effort to get noncitizen parents to the ballot box is pretty much a bust the first time out, with only 49 signing up to vote in the Nov. 6 election.

Back in July, the city began registering noncitizens — including undocumented immigrants — to vote in school board
elections.

LIES BY OMISSION ARE THE MOST DAMN LIES USED TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC!

MINDWARS CAN AND SHOULD NEVER BE TRUSTED TO POST THE WHOLE TRUTH.

 

[elongobardi]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

• 

5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

Not counting on the dead people the Democrats will Have vote.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Stratford57]

The excuse was that this was only for local items such as the school board.

People white on the sidewalks in SF, but $300K gets wasted on this insanity.

All I know is we can never let these mental nut jobs take over for a long, long time. Dems are fkn nuts man honest to gawd they are fkn crazy.

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

• 

5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

Not counting on the dead people the Democrats will Have vote.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

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5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

San Francisco’s effort to get noncitizen parents to the ballot box is pretty much a bust the first time out, with only 49 signing up to vote in the Nov. 6 election.

Back in July, the city began registering noncitizens — including undocumented immigrants — to vote in school board
elections.

LIES BY OMISSION ARE THE MOST DAMN LIES USED TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC!

MINDWARS CAN AND SHOULD NEVER BE TRUSTED TO POST THE WHOLE TRUTH.

I don't believe that the election San Francisco allowed anyone and everyone to vote in, a school board election, and spent so much money on to promote (when San Francisco has so many other more urgent needs to address),
makes the principle of non citizens voting with San Francisco's politburo's blessings any more valid, or legal considering illegal immigrants were included in the come one come all election.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

• 

5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

San Francisco’s effort to get noncitizen parents to the ballot box is pretty much a bust the first time out, with only 49 signing up to vote in the Nov. 6 election.

Back in July, the city began registering noncitizens — including undocumented immigrants — to vote in school board
elections.

LIES BY OMISSION ARE THE MOST DAMN LIES USED TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC!

MINDWARS CAN AND SHOULD NEVER BE TRUSTED TO POST THE WHOLE TRUTH.

I don't believe that the election San Francisco allowed anyone and everyone to vote in, a school board election, and spent so much money on to promote (when San Francisco has so many other more urgent needs to address),
makes the principle of non citizens voting with San Francisco's politburo's blessings any more valid, or legal considering illegal immigrants were included in the come one come all election.

If I understood the awkward syntax in your post, and only because you used "Politburo" and "come one come all) in the election, it is my opinion that you don't know a damn thing about the issue or writing English.

a) Immigtation is a Federal Responsibility, read COTUS and maybe you'll understand;
b) Many non citizens are employed by the private sector live, work and raise their children here
c) Allowing non citizens with Green Cards to vote in a singular matter - school boards - seems to be a minor issue for any parent of any ethnicity.
d) Nowhere in the lie by omission did Mindwars post make the claim that the 49 were all in SF illegally. Likely, and from my experience, those who are here illegally are young men who traveled alone to hang out at Home Depot to seek work to earn money to send to their home of origin.
e) Save your outrage for the private contractors - cement, roofing, gardening - who hire them at slave wages, with no benefits; or the home owner who wants cheap labor, or the restaurant owner / managers, hotels and motels or private home cleaning services.

If you want to fix what is broken, repeal and replace the Republican Senator or Member of the House who uses illegal immigration and green card holders as scapegoats for a wedge issue, and do nothing to fix it.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

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5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

San Francisco’s effort to get noncitizen parents to the ballot box is pretty much a bust the first time out, with only 49 signing up to vote in the Nov. 6 election.

Back in July, the city began registering noncitizens — including undocumented immigrants — to vote in school board
elections.

LIES BY OMISSION ARE THE MOST DAMN LIES USED TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC!

MINDWARS CAN AND SHOULD NEVER BE TRUSTED TO POST THE WHOLE TRUTH.

You should never be trusted to exercise common sense.

They shouldn't be allowed to vote on ANY issue. They don't belong here and allowing them to essentially nullify actual citizen votes is preposterous no matter the issue.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

• 

5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

Mindwars begins a thread with an ad hominem, calling all citizens in SF Idiots and then goes on to claim the entire City is filthy and trashy.

He thrives, so to 'speak' using lies, half-truths, rumors, innuendos and cherry picked photo to try an prove his hate. Sadly, for him reality smacks him in the face:

"The initiative follows the passage of a 2016 ballot measure that enabled certain non-citizens to vote in local school board elections.

The BIG LIE, is his hope others will echo his lie. So as to infect the voters to continue to support Trump's agenda of hate and fear mongering. Do Not believe Non Citizens can vote on every issue and every person running for Federal, State or Local office next Tuesday.



"Tourists in San Francisco spent a record-breaking $9.4 billion last year as the local hospitality industry enjoyed a continued upward trajectory."

"March 2, 2017 – The San Francisco Travel Association is forecasting a total of 25.6 million visitors to the city for 2017, up 1.8 percent over 25.2 million in 2016. Total spending by visitors is projected to reach $9.22 billion, up 2.7 percent over $8.98 billion in 2016.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

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5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

San Francisco’s effort to get noncitizen parents to the ballot box is pretty much a bust the first time out, with only 49 signing up to vote in the Nov. 6 election.

Back in July, the city began registering noncitizens — including undocumented immigrants — to vote in school board
elections.

LIES BY OMISSION ARE THE MOST DAMN LIES USED TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC!

MINDWARS CAN AND SHOULD NEVER BE TRUSTED TO POST THE WHOLE TRUTH.

I don't believe that the election San Francisco allowed anyone and everyone to vote in, a school board election, and spent so much money on to promote (when San Francisco has so many other more urgent needs to address),
makes the principle of non citizens voting with San Francisco's politburo's blessings any more valid, or legal considering illegal immigrants were included in the come one come all election.

If I understood the awkward syntax in your post, and only because you used "Politburo" and "come one come all) in the election, it is my opinion that you don't know a damn thing about the issue or writing English.

a) Immigtation is a Federal Responsibility, read COTUS and maybe you'll understand;
b) Many non citizens are employed by the private sector live, work and raise their children here
c) Allowing non citizens with Green Cards to vote in a singular matter - school boards - seems to be a minor issue for any parent of any ethnicity.
d) Nowhere in the lie by omission did Mindwars post make the claim that the 49 were all in SF illegally. Likely, and from my experience, those who are here illegally are young men who traveled alone to hang out at Home Depot to seek work to earn money to send to their home of origin.
e) Save your outrage for the private contractors - cement, roofing, gardening - who hire them at slave wages, with no benefits; or the home owner who wants cheap labor, or the restaurant owner / managers, hotels and motels or private home cleaning services.

If you want to fix what is broken, repeal and replace the Republican Senator or Member of the House who uses illegal immigration and green card holders as scapegoats for a wedge issue, and do nothing to fix it.

I did leave out the word "that" in my opening sentence (I don't believe that the election that San Francisco allowed...) but that hardly makes your criticism of my English skills, which are superlative, valid.
I attribute this petty and impotent slap by you to hostility to a contrary point of view by someone who will attack it on any grounds at all when facts leave him wanting.

Yes, I understand immigration is a federal issue. Thanks for the non news. I also understand that San Francisco lies within the borders of the United States of America and their thumbing of their noses at immigration law is not unlike
the attitudes of the Jim Crow South when they refused to obey federal civil rights laws just because they didn't want to.
You sound like a real descendant of that line of "thinking" and thankfully more people don't agree with you.

I have a friend from Argentina who has lived in this country for decades and who sent two children through our school system. He seems to understand that as a non citizen he has no right to vote in our elections, whether minor or not.
Why can't you? Maybe because he respects our laws whereas you don't seem to.

I don't live in San Francisco anymore, so I am hardly "outraged" by the latest reports of idiocy from that sadly broken city.
I just see one more instance of the fifth columnists trying to normalize people living in this country illegally.
It's wrong and your little diatribe does nothing to change this.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

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5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

San Francisco’s effort to get noncitizen parents to the ballot box is pretty much a bust the first time out, with only 49 signing up to vote in the Nov. 6 election.

Back in July, the city began registering noncitizens — including undocumented immigrants — to vote in school board
elections.

LIES BY OMISSION ARE THE MOST DAMN LIES USED TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC!

MINDWARS CAN AND SHOULD NEVER BE TRUSTED TO POST THE WHOLE TRUTH.

You should never be trusted to exercise common sense.

They shouldn't be allowed to vote on ANY issue. They don't belong here and allowing them to essentially nullify actual citizen votes is preposterous no matter the issue.

Why shouldn't a parent be allowed to vote in a school board election, when that parent is legally employed, pay taxes and their child attends the school


Who are you to deny them this right?

 

[MindWars]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

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5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

San Francisco’s effort to get noncitizen parents to the ballot box is pretty much a bust the first time out, with only 49 signing up to vote in the Nov. 6 election.

Back in July, the city began registering noncitizens — including undocumented immigrants — to vote in school board
elections.

LIES BY OMISSION ARE THE MOST DAMN LIES USED TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC!

MINDWARS CAN AND SHOULD NEVER BE TRUSTED TO POST THE WHOLE TRUTH.

That's is speaking of yourself cowardly little cyka

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/mati...n-voters-how-much-13340917.php?t=1cc71b89e3&f
nobody believes c..ts like you everyone who isn't a mental case like you sees right through the bs you lie about never trust me omfg you belong in a ' MENTAL WARD" ..

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

• 

5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

San Francisco’s effort to get noncitizen parents to the ballot box is pretty much a bust the first time out, with only 49 signing up to vote in the Nov. 6 election.

Back in July, the city began registering noncitizens — including undocumented immigrants — to vote in school board
elections.

LIES BY OMISSION ARE THE MOST DAMN LIES USED TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC!

MINDWARS CAN AND SHOULD NEVER BE TRUSTED TO POST THE WHOLE TRUTH.

I don't believe that the election San Francisco allowed anyone and everyone to vote in, a school board election, and spent so much money on to promote (when San Francisco has so many other more urgent needs to address),
makes the principle of non citizens voting with San Francisco's politburo's blessings any more valid, or legal considering illegal immigrants were included in the come one come all election.

If I understood the awkward syntax in your post, and only because you used "Politburo" and "come one come all) in the election, it is my opinion that you don't know a damn thing about the issue or writing English.

a) Immigtation is a Federal Responsibility, read COTUS and maybe you'll understand;
b) Many non citizens are employed by the private sector live, work and raise their children here
c) Allowing non citizens with Green Cards to vote in a singular matter - school boards - seems to be a minor issue for any parent of any ethnicity.
d) Nowhere in the lie by omission did Mindwars post make the claim that the 49 were all in SF illegally. Likely, and from my experience, those who are here illegally are young men who traveled alone to hang out at Home Depot to seek work to earn money to send to their home of origin.
e) Save your outrage for the private contractors - cement, roofing, gardening - who hire them at slave wages, with no benefits; or the home owner who wants cheap labor, or the restaurant owner / managers, hotels and motels or private home cleaning services.

If you want to fix what is broken, repeal and replace the Republican Senator or Member of the House who uses illegal immigration and green card holders as scapegoats for a wedge issue, and do nothing to fix it.

I did leave out the word "that" in my opening sentence (I don't believe that the election that San Francisco allowed...) but that hardly makes your criticism of my English skills, which are superlative, valid.
I attribute this petty and impotent slap by you to hostility to a contrary point of view by someone who will attack it on any grounds at all when facts leave him wanting.

Yes, I understand immigration is a federal issue. Thanks for the non news. I also understand that San Francisco lies within the borders of the United States of America and their thumbing of their noses at immigration law is not unlike
the attitudes of the Jim Crow South when they refused to obey federal civil rights laws just because they didn't want to.
You sound like a real descendant of that line of "thinking" and thankfully more people don't agree with you.

I have a friend from Argentina who has lived in this country for decades and who sent two children through our school system. He seems to understand that as a non citizen he has no right to vote in our elections, whether minor or not.
Why can't you? Maybe because he respects our laws whereas you don't seem to.

I don't live in San Francisco anymore, so I am hardly "outraged" by the latest reports of idiocy from that sadly broken city.
I just see one more instance of the fifth columnists trying to normalize people living in this country illegally.
It's wrong and your little diatribe does nothing to change this.

Excellent rebuttal.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

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5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

San Francisco’s effort to get noncitizen parents to the ballot box is pretty much a bust the first time out, with only 49 signing up to vote in the Nov. 6 election.

Back in July, the city began registering noncitizens — including undocumented immigrants — to vote in school board
elections.

LIES BY OMISSION ARE THE MOST DAMN LIES USED TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC!

MINDWARS CAN AND SHOULD NEVER BE TRUSTED TO POST THE WHOLE TRUTH.

You should never be trusted to exercise common sense.

They shouldn't be allowed to vote on ANY issue. They don't belong here and allowing them to essentially nullify actual citizen votes is preposterous no matter the issue.

Why shouldn't a parent be allowed to vote in a school board election, when that parent is legally employed, pay taxes and their child attends the school


Who are you to deny them this right?

An American citizen.

 

[MindWars]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

• 

5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

San Francisco’s effort to get noncitizen parents to the ballot box is pretty much a bust the first time out, with only 49 signing up to vote in the Nov. 6 election.

Back in July, the city began registering noncitizens — including undocumented immigrants — to vote in school board
elections.

LIES BY OMISSION ARE THE MOST DAMN LIES USED TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC!

MINDWARS CAN AND SHOULD NEVER BE TRUSTED TO POST THE WHOLE TRUTH.

PUT THE LETTERS A LITTLE BIGGER ASSHOLE

 

[Wyatt earp]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

• 

5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

Mindwars begins a thread with an ad hominem, calling all citizens in SF Idiots and then goes on to claim the entire City is filthy and trashy.

He thrives, so to 'speak' using lies, half-truths, rumors, innuendos and cherry picked photo to try an prove his hate. Sadly, for him reality smacks him in the face:

"The initiative follows the passage of a 2016 ballot measure that enabled certain non-citizens to vote in local school board elections.

The BIG LIE, is his hope others will echo his lie. So as to infect the voters to continue to support Trump's agenda of hate and fear mongering. Do Not believe Non Citizens can vote on every issue and every person running for Federal, State or Local office next Tuesday.



"Tourists in San Francisco spent a record-breaking $9.4 billion last year as the local hospitality industry enjoyed a continued upward trajectory."

"March 2, 2017 – The San Francisco Travel Association is forecasting a total of 25.6 million visitors to the city for 2017, up 1.8 percent over 25.2 million in 2016. Total spending by visitors is projected to reach $9.22 billion, up 2.7 percent over $8.98 billion in 2016.

They are allowing Illegals to vote in elections to indoctrinate the children . IE..future voters


Who do you think your fooling clown?



.

 

[jknowgood]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

• 

5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

San Francisco’s effort to get noncitizen parents to the ballot box is pretty much a bust the first time out, with only 49 signing up to vote in the Nov. 6 election.

Back in July, the city began registering noncitizens — including undocumented immigrants — to vote in school board
elections.

LIES BY OMISSION ARE THE MOST DAMN LIES USED TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC!

MINDWARS CAN AND SHOULD NEVER BE TRUSTED TO POST THE WHOLE TRUTH.

You should never be trusted to exercise common sense.

They shouldn't be allowed to vote on ANY issue. They don't belong here and allowing them to essentially nullify actual citizen votes is preposterous no matter the issue.

Why shouldn't a parent be allowed to vote in a school board election, when that parent is legally employed, pay taxes and their child attends the school


Who are you to deny them this right?

After what you loons pulled on Kavanaugh, those illegals will probably vote for republicans. I bet you will change your mind about their rights if it happens.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
---------------------------

Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship

• 

5 COMMENTS
TAGS Decentralization and SecessionLegal SystemPolitical Theory

1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

San Francisco’s effort to get noncitizen parents to the ballot box is pretty much a bust the first time out, with only 49 signing up to vote in the Nov. 6 election.

Back in July, the city began registering noncitizens — including undocumented immigrants — to vote in school board
elections.

LIES BY OMISSION ARE THE MOST DAMN LIES USED TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC!

MINDWARS CAN AND SHOULD NEVER BE TRUSTED TO POST THE WHOLE TRUTH.

I don't believe that the election San Francisco allowed anyone and everyone to vote in, a school board election, and spent so much money on to promote (when San Francisco has so many other more urgent needs to address),
makes the principle of non citizens voting with San Francisco's politburo's blessings any more valid, or legal considering illegal immigrants were included in the come one come all election.

If I understood the awkward syntax in your post, and only because you used "Politburo" and "come one come all) in the election, it is my opinion that you don't know a damn thing about the issue or writing English.

a) Immigtation is a Federal Responsibility, read COTUS and maybe you'll understand;
b) Many non citizens are employed by the private sector live, work and raise their children here
c) Allowing non citizens with Green Cards to vote in a singular matter - school boards - seems to be a minor issue for any parent of any ethnicity.
d) Nowhere in the lie by omission did Mindwars post make the claim that the 49 were all in SF illegally. Likely, and from my experience, those who are here illegally are young men who traveled alone to hang out at Home Depot to seek work to earn money to send to their home of origin.
e) Save your outrage for the private contractors - cement, roofing, gardening - who hire them at slave wages, with no benefits; or the home owner who wants cheap labor, or the restaurant owner / managers, hotels and motels or private home cleaning services.

If you want to fix what is broken, repeal and replace the Republican Senator or Member of the House who uses illegal immigration and green card holders as scapegoats for a wedge issue, and do nothing to fix it.

I did leave out the word "that" in my opening sentence (I don't believe that the election that San Francisco allowed...) but that hardly makes your criticism of my English skills, which are superlative, valid.
I attribute this petty and impotent slap by you to hostility to a contrary point of view by someone who will attack it on any grounds at all when facts leave him wanting.

Yes, I understand immigration is a federal issue. Thanks for the non news. I also understand that San Francisco lies within the borders of the United States of America and their thumbing of their noses at immigration law is not unlike
the attitudes of the Jim Crow South when they refused to obey federal civil rights laws just because they didn't want to.
You sound like a real descendant of that line of "thinking" and thankfully more people don't agree with you.

I have a friend from Argentina who has lived in this country for decades and who sent two children through our school system. He seems to understand that as a non citizen he has no right to vote in our elections, whether minor or not.
Why can't you? Maybe because he respects our laws whereas you don't seem to.

I don't live in San Francisco anymore, so I am hardly "outraged" by the latest reports of idiocy from that sadly broken city.
I just see one more instance of the fifth columnists trying to normalize people living in this country illegally.
It's wrong and your little diatribe does nothing to change this.

Tissue? The germane issue is this:

[SF Proposition N:

"Shall the City allow a non-citizen resident of San Francisco who is of legal voting age and the parent, legal guardian or legally recognized caregiver of a child living in the San Francisco Unified School District to vote for members of the Board of Education?"

"The amendment would permit non-citizens 18 years of age or older who have children residing in the San Francisco Unified School District to vote in the elections for the School Board. The amendment would sunset on December 31, 2022, but could be extended by ordinance"]

Mindwars tired to mislead the reader that all legal and those who are undocumented persons residing in San Francisco would be able to vote on all local issues, State Wide issues, and Federal Issues.

I had no idea what your opinion was, had you not used the two phrases I pointed out. Maybe you ought to find a grammar checker and post your initial comment. If is was wrong post the result and I'll offer a mea culpa.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The city of San Francisco has sunk over $300,000 into a pilot program aimed at registering non-citizens and illegal aliens to vote in upcoming November 6th elections.
San Fran Spends Over $300,000 Registering 49 Non-Citizens to Vote
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Now this is capital of the idiots and it's so bad there but you won't see msm reporting how filthy and trashy this place is either.

The danger is these scum can filter out into other parts of the country because the gawd dam fkn idiots in CA. let them all in.

WHEN IN THE FK DID IT BECOME LEGAL FOR NON CITIZENS TO VOTE

CAN YOU GO TO CHINA AND JUST UP AND VOTE

CAN YOU GO INTO RUSSIA AND JUST VOTE

ARE YOU GAWD DAM MORONS OR WHAT YOU LEFTIST PUKES.
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1 HOUR AGOMurray N. Rothbard
One vexing current problem centers on who becomes the citizen of a given country, since citizenship confers voting rights.

The Anglo-American model, in which every baby born in the country's land area automatically becomes a citizen, clearly invites welfare immigration by expectant parents. In the U.S., for example, a current problem is illegal immigrants whose babies, if born on American soil, automatically become citizens and therefore entitle themselves and their parents to permanent welfare payments and free medical care. Clearly the French system, in which one has to be born to a citizen to become an automatic citizen, is far closer to the idea of a nation-by-consent.

It is also important to rethink the entire concept and function of voting. Should anyone have a "right" to vote? Rose Wilder Lane, the mid-twentieth century U.S. libertarian theorist, was once asked if she believed in womens' suffrage. "No," she replied, "and I'm against male suffrage as well." The Latvians and Estonians have cogently tackled the problem of Russian immigrants by allowing them to continue permanently as residents, but not granting them citizenship or therefore the right to vote. The Swiss welcome temporary guest-workers, but severely discourage permanent immigration, and, a fortiori, citizenship and voting.

Let us turn for enlightenment, once again, to the anarcho-capitalist model. What would voting be like in a totally privatized society? Not only would voting be diverse, but more importantly, who would really care? Probably the most deeply satisfying form of voting to an economist is the corporation, or joint-stock company, in which voting is proportionate to one's share of ownership of the firm's assets. But also there are, and would be, a myriad of private clubs of all sorts. It is usually assumed that club decisions are made on the basis of one vote per member, but that is generally untrue. Undoubtedly, the best-run and most pleasant clubs are those

A Libertarian Critique of Birthright Citizenship | Murray N. Rothbard

Mindwars begins a thread with an ad hominem, calling all citizens in SF Idiots and then goes on to claim the entire City is filthy and trashy.

He thrives, so to 'speak' using lies, half-truths, rumors, innuendos and cherry picked photo to try an prove his hate. Sadly, for him reality smacks him in the face:

"The initiative follows the passage of a 2016 ballot measure that enabled certain non-citizens to vote in local school board elections.

The BIG LIE, is his hope others will echo his lie. So as to infect the voters to continue to support Trump's agenda of hate and fear mongering. Do Not believe Non Citizens can vote on every issue and every person running for Federal, State or Local office next Tuesday.



"Tourists in San Francisco spent a record-breaking $9.4 billion last year as the local hospitality industry enjoyed a continued upward trajectory."

"March 2, 2017 – The San Francisco Travel Association is forecasting a total of 25.6 million visitors to the city for 2017, up 1.8 percent over 25.2 million in 2016. Total spending by visitors is projected to reach $9.22 billion, up 2.7 percent over $8.98 billion in 2016.

They are allowing Illegals to vote in elections to indoctrinate the children . IE..future voters


Who do you think your fooling clown?



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Oh Great, now all the usual suspects* are now posting on another issue convoluted by the resident troll.

*Callous conservatives, trumpanzees and the biddable