Should the US infrastructure upgrades include "green nuclear powerpants"?

Do you support building more nuclear powerplants to replace aging units and reduce CO2 emitted?

  • Yes, nuclear power is proven to be reliable and "green"

    Votes: 13 81.3%
  • No, nuclear power is still too risky

    Votes: 3 18.8%

  • Total voters
    16

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Vogtle Units 1 & 2, GA
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If the US wants to reduce emissions, one way is to go back to building "green" nuclear power plants. The current fleet averages 38 years old, which already exceeds their expected life.

U.S. nuclear industry - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
What is the status of the U.S. nuclear industry?
Electricity generation from commercial nuclear power plants in the United States began in 1958. As of the end of December 2018, the United States had 98 operating commercial nuclear reactors at 60 nuclear power plants in 30 states. The average age of these nuclear reactors is about 38 years old. The oldest operating reactor, Nine Mile Point Unit 1 in New York, began commercial operation in December 1969. The newest reactor to enter service, Watts Bar Unit 2, came online in 2016—the first reactor to come online since 1996 when the Watts Bar Unit 1 came online. Nineteen shut down commercial power reactors at 17 sites are in various stages of decommissioning.

Although seven nuclear reactors have been shut down since 2013, total nuclear electricity generation capacity at the end of 2018 was about the same as total capacity in 2003, when the United States had 104 operating reactors. Power plant uprates—modifications to increase capacity—at nuclear power plants have made it possible for the entire operating nuclear reactor fleet to maintain a relatively consistent total electricity generation capacity. These uprates, combined with high capacity utilization rates (or capacity factors), have helped nuclear power plants maintain a consistent share of about 20% of total annual U.S. electricity generation since 1990. Some reactors have also increased annual electricity generation by shortening the length of time reactors are offline for refueling.

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Coal power in the United States - Wikipedia

Coal generates about 30% of US power and gas about 34%, both emit CO2.

Would you support investing in more nuclear power as part of US infrastructure upgrades?
 
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I voted yes, but only if French or German companies build and manage the plants; American companies are too corrupt and inept to be trusted with such important projects. We can let them build tool sheds or fences or something, maybe.
 
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Vogtle Units 1 & 2, GA
Vogtle Electric Generating Plant - Wikipedia

If the US wants to reduce emissions, one way is to go back to building "green" nuclear power plants. The current fleet averages 38 years old, which already exceeds their expected life.

U.S. nuclear industry - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
What is the status of the U.S. nuclear industry?
Electricity generation from commercial nuclear power plants in the United States began in 1958. As of the end of December 2018, the United States had 98 operating commercial nuclear reactors at 60 nuclear power plants in 30 states. The average age of these nuclear reactors is about 38 years old. The oldest operating reactor, Nine Mile Point Unit 1 in New York, began commercial operation in December 1969. The newest reactor to enter service, Watts Bar Unit 2, came online in 2016—the first reactor to come online since 1996 when the Watts Bar Unit 1 came online. Nineteen shut down commercial power reactors at 17 sites are in various stages of decommissioning.

Although seven nuclear reactors have been shut down since 2013, total nuclear electricity generation capacity at the end of 2018 was about the same as total capacity in 2003, when the United States had 104 operating reactors. Power plant uprates—modifications to increase capacity—at nuclear power plants have made it possible for the entire operating nuclear reactor fleet to maintain a relatively consistent total electricity generation capacity. These uprates, combined with high capacity utilization rates (or capacity factors), have helped nuclear power plants maintain a consistent share of about 20% of total annual U.S. electricity generation since 1990. Some reactors have also increased annual electricity generation by shortening the length of time reactors are offline for refueling.

220px-Electricity_Generation_Sources_for_the_United_States.svg.png

Coal power in the United States - Wikipedia

Coal generates about 30% of US power and gas about 34%, both emit CO2.

Would you support investing in more nuclear power as part of US infrastructure upgrades?
What do you mean reduce emissions. We are the only industrialized nation to do so. Now I'm all for building has many nuclear plants as the American people want.
 
300px-Vogtle_NPP.jpg
Vogtle Units 1 & 2, GA
Vogtle Electric Generating Plant - Wikipedia

If the US wants to reduce emissions, one way is to go back to building "green" nuclear power plants. The current fleet averages 38 years old, which already exceeds their expected life.

U.S. nuclear industry - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
What is the status of the U.S. nuclear industry?
Electricity generation from commercial nuclear power plants in the United States began in 1958. As of the end of December 2018, the United States had 98 operating commercial nuclear reactors at 60 nuclear power plants in 30 states. The average age of these nuclear reactors is about 38 years old. The oldest operating reactor, Nine Mile Point Unit 1 in New York, began commercial operation in December 1969. The newest reactor to enter service, Watts Bar Unit 2, came online in 2016—the first reactor to come online since 1996 when the Watts Bar Unit 1 came online. Nineteen shut down commercial power reactors at 17 sites are in various stages of decommissioning.

Although seven nuclear reactors have been shut down since 2013, total nuclear electricity generation capacity at the end of 2018 was about the same as total capacity in 2003, when the United States had 104 operating reactors. Power plant uprates—modifications to increase capacity—at nuclear power plants have made it possible for the entire operating nuclear reactor fleet to maintain a relatively consistent total electricity generation capacity. These uprates, combined with high capacity utilization rates (or capacity factors), have helped nuclear power plants maintain a consistent share of about 20% of total annual U.S. electricity generation since 1990. Some reactors have also increased annual electricity generation by shortening the length of time reactors are offline for refueling.

220px-Electricity_Generation_Sources_for_the_United_States.svg.png

Coal power in the United States - Wikipedia

Coal generates about 30% of US power and gas about 34%, both emit CO2.

Would you support investing in more nuclear power as part of US infrastructure upgrades?
I'll vote for power pants anyday.
lol you might want to fix your title while there's still time, kyzr.
 
I voted yes, but only if French or German companies build and manage the plants; American companies are too corrupt and inept to be trusted with such important projects. We can let them build tool sheds or fences or something, maybe.

Germany shut down their nuke plants after Fukishima.
France has a lot, but so does the US.
In the US the utilities run the nuke plants.

U.S. Nuclear Plant Owners and Operators

No one is going to change the US laws regarding nuclear power design, construction, or operation, so you might want to change your vote?
Your point is well taken, some utilities are irresponsible, and some are great.
 
300px-Vogtle_NPP.jpg
Vogtle Units 1 & 2, GA
Vogtle Electric Generating Plant - Wikipedia

If the US wants to reduce emissions, one way is to go back to building "green" nuclear power plants. The current fleet averages 38 years old, which already exceeds their expected life.

U.S. nuclear industry - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
What is the status of the U.S. nuclear industry?
Electricity generation from commercial nuclear power plants in the United States began in 1958. As of the end of December 2018, the United States had 98 operating commercial nuclear reactors at 60 nuclear power plants in 30 states. The average age of these nuclear reactors is about 38 years old. The oldest operating reactor, Nine Mile Point Unit 1 in New York, began commercial operation in December 1969. The newest reactor to enter service, Watts Bar Unit 2, came online in 2016—the first reactor to come online since 1996 when the Watts Bar Unit 1 came online. Nineteen shut down commercial power reactors at 17 sites are in various stages of decommissioning.

Although seven nuclear reactors have been shut down since 2013, total nuclear electricity generation capacity at the end of 2018 was about the same as total capacity in 2003, when the United States had 104 operating reactors. Power plant uprates—modifications to increase capacity—at nuclear power plants have made it possible for the entire operating nuclear reactor fleet to maintain a relatively consistent total electricity generation capacity. These uprates, combined with high capacity utilization rates (or capacity factors), have helped nuclear power plants maintain a consistent share of about 20% of total annual U.S. electricity generation since 1990. Some reactors have also increased annual electricity generation by shortening the length of time reactors are offline for refueling.

220px-Electricity_Generation_Sources_for_the_United_States.svg.png

Coal power in the United States - Wikipedia

Coal generates about 30% of US power and gas about 34%, both emit CO2.

Would you support investing in more nuclear power as part of US infrastructure upgrades?

You volunteering to put the nuclear waste in your back yard?
 
300px-Vogtle_NPP.jpg
Vogtle Units 1 & 2, GA
Vogtle Electric Generating Plant - Wikipedia

If the US wants to reduce emissions, one way is to go back to building "green" nuclear power plants. The current fleet averages 38 years old, which already exceeds their expected life.

U.S. nuclear industry - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
What is the status of the U.S. nuclear industry?
Electricity generation from commercial nuclear power plants in the United States began in 1958. As of the end of December 2018, the United States had 98 operating commercial nuclear reactors at 60 nuclear power plants in 30 states. The average age of these nuclear reactors is about 38 years old. The oldest operating reactor, Nine Mile Point Unit 1 in New York, began commercial operation in December 1969. The newest reactor to enter service, Watts Bar Unit 2, came online in 2016—the first reactor to come online since 1996 when the Watts Bar Unit 1 came online. Nineteen shut down commercial power reactors at 17 sites are in various stages of decommissioning.

Although seven nuclear reactors have been shut down since 2013, total nuclear electricity generation capacity at the end of 2018 was about the same as total capacity in 2003, when the United States had 104 operating reactors. Power plant uprates—modifications to increase capacity—at nuclear power plants have made it possible for the entire operating nuclear reactor fleet to maintain a relatively consistent total electricity generation capacity. These uprates, combined with high capacity utilization rates (or capacity factors), have helped nuclear power plants maintain a consistent share of about 20% of total annual U.S. electricity generation since 1990. Some reactors have also increased annual electricity generation by shortening the length of time reactors are offline for refueling.

220px-Electricity_Generation_Sources_for_the_United_States.svg.png

Coal power in the United States - Wikipedia

Coal generates about 30% of US power and gas about 34%, both emit CO2.

Would you support investing in more nuclear power as part of US infrastructure upgrades?

You volunteering to put the nuclear waste in your back yard?

No, but I will put it in Harry Reid's backyard.
Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository - Wikipedia

Safe disposal of nuclear waste is a responsibility of the Energy Department.
(The Department Rick Perry wanted to eliminate and now runs <g>)
 

Operating reactors at about 1000C is a very scary proposition. Today most US reactors run at about 330C, so metal fatigue isn't an issue.
Wonder what material the new reactors are made of? The article doesn't say. Its a very European article.
The NRC would have a lot of work to do licensing any of those advanced designs.
(producing hydrogen used to be a bad thing, since it explodes, now its a good thing?!)
 

Would you support investing in more nuclear power as part of US infrastructure upgrades?
I'll support getting government out of the way to allow private companies to invest in building as many nuclear power plants as the market will bear.
That's a bad idea. Private companies have a profit motive to cut corners. We saw how that worked out at TMI.
 

Would you support investing in more nuclear power as part of US infrastructure upgrades?
I'll support getting government out of the way to allow private companies to invest in building as many nuclear power plants as the market will bear.
That's a bad idea. Private companies have a profit motive to cut corners. We saw how that worked out at TMI.

What's the alternative? let the incompetent, corrupt morons in government build and run them?

I trust private industry FAR more than I trust government because of the profit motive, government's motives are much less transparent and much more sinister.
 
I voted yes, but only if French or German companies build and manage the plants; American companies are too corrupt and inept to be trusted with such important projects. We can let them build tool sheds or fences or something, maybe.

Germany shut down their nuke plants after Fukishima.
France has a lot, but so does the US.
In the US the utilities run the nuke plants.

U.S. Nuclear Plant Owners and Operators

No one is going to change the US laws regarding nuclear power design, construction, or operation, so you might want to change your vote?
Your point is well taken, some utilities are irresponsible, and some are great.
They are still online.
 
300px-Vogtle_NPP.jpg
Vogtle Units 1 & 2, GA
Vogtle Electric Generating Plant - Wikipedia

If the US wants to reduce emissions, one way is to go back to building "green" nuclear power plants. The current fleet averages 38 years old, which already exceeds their expected life.

U.S. nuclear industry - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
What is the status of the U.S. nuclear industry?
Electricity generation from commercial nuclear power plants in the United States began in 1958. As of the end of December 2018, the United States had 98 operating commercial nuclear reactors at 60 nuclear power plants in 30 states. The average age of these nuclear reactors is about 38 years old. The oldest operating reactor, Nine Mile Point Unit 1 in New York, began commercial operation in December 1969. The newest reactor to enter service, Watts Bar Unit 2, came online in 2016—the first reactor to come online since 1996 when the Watts Bar Unit 1 came online. Nineteen shut down commercial power reactors at 17 sites are in various stages of decommissioning.

Although seven nuclear reactors have been shut down since 2013, total nuclear electricity generation capacity at the end of 2018 was about the same as total capacity in 2003, when the United States had 104 operating reactors. Power plant uprates—modifications to increase capacity—at nuclear power plants have made it possible for the entire operating nuclear reactor fleet to maintain a relatively consistent total electricity generation capacity. These uprates, combined with high capacity utilization rates (or capacity factors), have helped nuclear power plants maintain a consistent share of about 20% of total annual U.S. electricity generation since 1990. Some reactors have also increased annual electricity generation by shortening the length of time reactors are offline for refueling.

220px-Electricity_Generation_Sources_for_the_United_States.svg.png

Coal power in the United States - Wikipedia

Coal generates about 30% of US power and gas about 34%, both emit CO2.

Would you support investing in more nuclear power as part of US infrastructure upgrades?
i make a motion to put fission nuclear underground and is an additional reason to upgrade infrastructure.
 
300px-Vogtle_NPP.jpg
Vogtle Units 1 & 2, GA
Vogtle Electric Generating Plant - Wikipedia

If the US wants to reduce emissions, one way is to go back to building "green" nuclear power plants. The current fleet averages 38 years old, which already exceeds their expected life.

U.S. nuclear industry - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
What is the status of the U.S. nuclear industry?
Electricity generation from commercial nuclear power plants in the United States began in 1958. As of the end of December 2018, the United States had 98 operating commercial nuclear reactors at 60 nuclear power plants in 30 states. The average age of these nuclear reactors is about 38 years old. The oldest operating reactor, Nine Mile Point Unit 1 in New York, began commercial operation in December 1969. The newest reactor to enter service, Watts Bar Unit 2, came online in 2016—the first reactor to come online since 1996 when the Watts Bar Unit 1 came online. Nineteen shut down commercial power reactors at 17 sites are in various stages of decommissioning.

Although seven nuclear reactors have been shut down since 2013, total nuclear electricity generation capacity at the end of 2018 was about the same as total capacity in 2003, when the United States had 104 operating reactors. Power plant uprates—modifications to increase capacity—at nuclear power plants have made it possible for the entire operating nuclear reactor fleet to maintain a relatively consistent total electricity generation capacity. These uprates, combined with high capacity utilization rates (or capacity factors), have helped nuclear power plants maintain a consistent share of about 20% of total annual U.S. electricity generation since 1990. Some reactors have also increased annual electricity generation by shortening the length of time reactors are offline for refueling.

220px-Electricity_Generation_Sources_for_the_United_States.svg.png

Coal power in the United States - Wikipedia

Coal generates about 30% of US power and gas about 34%, both emit CO2.

Would you support investing in more nuclear power as part of US infrastructure upgrades?
i make a motion to put fission nuclear underground and is an additional reason to upgrade infrastructure.

Why would you want to put it underground?
 
300px-Vogtle_NPP.jpg
Vogtle Units 1 & 2, GA
Vogtle Electric Generating Plant - Wikipedia

If the US wants to reduce emissions, one way is to go back to building "green" nuclear power plants. The current fleet averages 38 years old, which already exceeds their expected life.

U.S. nuclear industry - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
What is the status of the U.S. nuclear industry?
Electricity generation from commercial nuclear power plants in the United States began in 1958. As of the end of December 2018, the United States had 98 operating commercial nuclear reactors at 60 nuclear power plants in 30 states. The average age of these nuclear reactors is about 38 years old. The oldest operating reactor, Nine Mile Point Unit 1 in New York, began commercial operation in December 1969. The newest reactor to enter service, Watts Bar Unit 2, came online in 2016—the first reactor to come online since 1996 when the Watts Bar Unit 1 came online. Nineteen shut down commercial power reactors at 17 sites are in various stages of decommissioning.

Although seven nuclear reactors have been shut down since 2013, total nuclear electricity generation capacity at the end of 2018 was about the same as total capacity in 2003, when the United States had 104 operating reactors. Power plant uprates—modifications to increase capacity—at nuclear power plants have made it possible for the entire operating nuclear reactor fleet to maintain a relatively consistent total electricity generation capacity. These uprates, combined with high capacity utilization rates (or capacity factors), have helped nuclear power plants maintain a consistent share of about 20% of total annual U.S. electricity generation since 1990. Some reactors have also increased annual electricity generation by shortening the length of time reactors are offline for refueling.

220px-Electricity_Generation_Sources_for_the_United_States.svg.png

Coal power in the United States - Wikipedia

Coal generates about 30% of US power and gas about 34%, both emit CO2.

Would you support investing in more nuclear power as part of US infrastructure upgrades?

You volunteering to put the nuclear waste in your back yard?

Where will they put the Radioactive waste from depleted Uranium or other Radioactive Materials. Better question is where is it disposed of now and how do the People living near these sights feel about how they are being operated and maintained. A leak could make large areas uninhabitable, and contaminate water tables for centuries, think about that. Chernobyl is the best example of what can and probably will happen again.
 

Would you support investing in more nuclear power as part of US infrastructure upgrades?
I'll support getting government out of the way to allow private companies to invest in building as many nuclear power plants as the market will bear.
That's a bad idea. Private companies have a profit motive to cut corners. We saw how that worked out at TMI.

What's the alternative? let the incompetent, corrupt morons in government build and run them?

I trust private industry FAR more than I trust government because of the profit motive, government's motives are much less transparent and much more sinister.
Utilities finance the design and construction with review and licensing by the NRC. (not the US government)
Then the utilities operate them, again always under the observed/reviewed licensing requirements of the NRC.
If the utility screws-up, the plant is shutdown until its safe to operate.

I don't trust private industry or the utilities w/o strict government oversight.
 

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