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This is a modern fallacy.I'm against it purely for the sake of our men and women in military who will be further exposed to retaliation.
Or to put it another way .... 'what goes around, comes around'.I'm against it purely for the sake of our men and women in military who will be further exposed to retaliation.
Yeah! Don´t shoot bullets in the first place. Good step to begin with!This is a modern fallacy.I'm against it purely for the sake of our men and women in military who will be further exposed to retaliation.
It is like saying we should not shoot bullets at the enemy because we do not want the enemy to shoot bullets at us.
John McCain is trapped in this fallacy as well.
He was never the brightest bulb in the chandelier however. Never was and never will be.
I suggest you not imitate John McCain.
First, you yourself would not make a very good interrogator, so make sure you don't quit your other day job.Let's use me as a very realistic example. If I am being tortured, all I need to know is what they want me to say .... and that's what I will tell them. I don't think my "forced confession" is going to save anyone's life - probably be the cause of someone's death...
Fokking pacifist hippy.Yeah! Don´t shoot bullets in the first place. Good step to begin with!
Both have been practiced and what I brought up applies for both unless you have one who you know knows something you need to save lives. If you want to "work" on terrorists you must be very careful to first not to become one of their kind and second on whom you "work". See what easily can happen:The purpose of torture isn't to determine the guilt or innocence of the subject. The purpose is to obtain information that can save the lives of Americans.Torture is a critical issue. If you don´t know the suspect is guilty, torture can never be a legitimate measure. If you know the suspect is guilty but can only bring up a torture-confession, a court cannot accept this confession.
Ah, Nuremberg.The CIA is really good at this. Bring it back -- sure.
Got lots of confessions too, I bet.The U.S. practiced torture in WW II and in Vietnam.
Torture is a means of getting confessions. They don't need to be verified.The claim that torture doesn't work is bullshit. If the information obtained can be verified, which it almost always can, then the subject will give it up because he knows failure to do so means more torture.
As I previously explained, confessions aren't the purpose of torture.Got lots of confessions too, I bet.The U.S. practiced torture in WW II and in Vietnam.
Is English not your language?First, you yourself would not make a very good interrogator, so make sure you don't quit your other day job.Let's use me as a very realistic example. If I am being tortured, all I need to know is what they want me to say .... and that's what I will tell them. I don't think my "forced confession" is going to save anyone's life - probably be the cause of someone's death...
Second, when you interrogate, you first isolate, then you deprive, then you ask for details.
You do not lead the witness (so to speak).
Thus the subject of the interrogation is forced to cough up facts, not lies.
Third, you continue the process over and over under extreme stress so that the subject's mind can only recall the truth not the lies.
Fourth, your transcribers cross reference the subjects statements and you continue to interrogate until you have ferretted out all the lies.
Those are things you yourself simply know nothing about.
Wrong, moron. Only ISIS tortures to get a confession.Torture is a means of getting confessions. They don't need to be verified.The claim that torture doesn't work is bullshit. If the information obtained can be verified, which it almost always can, then the subject will give it up because he knows failure to do so means more torture.
Wrong, moron. Only ISIS tortures to get a confession.Torture is a means of getting confessions. They don't need to be verified.The claim that torture doesn't work is bullshit. If the information obtained can be verified, which it almost always can, then the subject will give it up because he knows failure to do so means more torture.
Both have been practiced and what I brought up applies for both unless you have one who you know knows something you need to save lives. If you want to "work" on terrorists you must be very careful to first not to become one of their kind and second on whom you "work". See what easily can happen:The purpose of torture isn't to determine the guilt or innocence of the subject. The purpose is to obtain information that can save the lives of Americans.Torture is a critical issue. If you don´t know the suspect is guilty, torture can never be a legitimate measure. If you know the suspect is guilty but can only bring up a torture-confession, a court cannot accept this confession.
The claim that torture doesn't work is bullshit. If the information obtained can be verified, which it almost always can, then the subject will give it up because he knows failure to do so means more torture.
Anyone who claims torture doesn't work is a moron. 5000 years of recorded history prove otherwise. The U.S. practiced torture in WW II and in Vietnam.
GLASNOST , she/he thinks you are little and fat.Wrong, moron. Only ISIS tortures to get a confession.Torture is a means of getting confessions. They don't need to be verified.The claim that torture doesn't work is bullshit. If the information obtained can be verified, which it almost always can, then the subject will give it up because he knows failure to do so means more torture.
You mean Abu Ghraib was just a figment of my imagination my little, fat, bald friend?
Works like a charm when you do it right.Lets escape from the fact that it doesn't work....
President Trump, during his campaign, called for bringing back torture.
He has appointed several people to his cabinet that have in the past spoke positively on torturing terrorists.
Personally, i think that's fucking great. Any ISIS guy we find should be dealt with in such a manner.
What do you think folks, should we burn these ISIS guys alive?
