So if Christianity is every bit as *bad* as Islam...why aren't the headlines

[syrenn]

A pan is every bit as much of a weapon as a pistol, when in the hands of a person bent on murder. But neither the pan nor pistol are "bad." The hand that wields deserves all blame.

The hand that wields it..... or the dogma the hand is attached to believes in is to blame?

cult brainwashing is cult brainwashing.... no matter the cult.

Still, people are to blame for their actions, not ideas. The moment we start blaming ideas for the actions of people not only do we open ourselves to the kinds of corruptions that could lead to degradations of freedoms of speech, religion, etc. But we also set ourselves up to repeat the same type of dogmatic behavior (which can subsequently be just as easily become perverted and corrupted as the first) as we identify solutions for the future-- finding contrasting doctrines and positing them as the "good" instead of (and eventually superior to) human actions.

For example, the debate between supporting abortion rights and opposing abortion rights. Many of those who oppose would consider those who support to adhere to a certain ideology that disvalues life. By blaming ideas instead of people for individual actions, some on the opposing side eventually identify their own dogmas as some kind of superior "good" to not only the other side's dogmas, but to any consideration of people's chosen behaviors. And that's how you end up with Scott Roeders and James Kopps.

At the end of the day, the dogma that you are finding objectionable is doing nothing more itself than objecting to another dogma, i.e. what they consider to be Americanism. If we focus on blaming their ideas (which are nothing more than a condemnation of our ideas) then we commit the same fallacy, and ultimately the same failings, even if we merely express them in different ways. We will be locking ourselves into the same self sustaining cycle of back and fourth hatred, and ultimately lose any right to condemn their own ideas in the first place.

so far as i know.... muslim dogma is the only one that calls for outright death of anyone opposing said dogma.

 

[francoHFW]

So you hate an entire religion because of less than 1% of them. Gotcha. STOOPID bigot.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Look she doesn't even respond to that mans post because she's a bigot and deflects always. What a hardheaded nazi

 

[syrenn]

No. Ever since you've been being a bigot ever since I said I was a Muslim.

right...when i called you on your avi...... and it not squaring with your *cough* beliefs.

So if calling you on your avi is bigoted....... ..... WIN WIN

Do you even know what my avi is? Then shutup rookie

your ave WAS..... two women..... of which my calling your on your hypocrisy got you to change your avi to the one you now have...

points to me...again. SWEET!

 

[bobcollum]

We're discussing that in the other thread. You refuse to offer any alternative explanation.

I've since unsubscribed from this thread, but I knew you'd reply to my comment.

You're still being a dishonest douche.

You've had several chances to prove my dishonesty.

You declined.

Oh, well. Guess you just expect everyone to take your word for it, huh?

Let me know how that works out for you.

You've accused me of saying something I literally didn't say, you can't even provide a quote, although you did try...it just wasn't there.

It's not on me to disprove something you're making up.

You keep beating that horse that nobody else can see.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

right...when i called you on your avi...... and it not squaring with your *cough* beliefs.

So if calling you on your avi is bigoted....... ..... WIN WIN

Do you even know what my avi is? Then shutup rookie

your ave WAS..... two women..... of which my calling your on your hypocrisy got you to change your avi to the one you now have...

points to me...again. SWEET!

Why haven't you responded to my question in the other thread? Go look at it. I only did it to mock you because you're ugly

 

[syrenn]

So you hate an entire religion because of less than 1% of them. Gotcha. STOOPID bigot.

The truth is the truth....

deal with it.



the truth is not hate......

 

[Inthemiddle]

so far as i know.... muslim dogma is the only one that calls for outright death of anyone opposing said dogma.

My friend, you're more intelligent than that. Such perversions can be found connected to a great many ideologies. Islam is no more our enemy than Christianity is the enemy to freedom that some radicals on the left might suggest. We can't let radicals represent the whole.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Do you even know what my avi is?

A Hamas fighter shooting Israeli children on their way to school?

Just a guess.

 

[koshergrl]

so far as i know.... muslim dogma is the only one that calls for outright death of anyone opposing said dogma.

My friend, you're more intelligent than that. Such perversions can be found connected to a great many ideologies. Islam is no more our enemy than Christianity is the enemy to freedom that some radicals on the left might suggest. We can't let radicals represent the whole.

Stop with the bullshit.

I'm so sick of apologists who insist that Christianity must be punished for the extremism of Islam.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Do you even know what my avi is?

A Hamas fighter shooting Israeli children on their way to school?

Just a guess.

Nope. Try again.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Nope. Try again.

Hezbollah shooting Israeli children on their way to school?

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Nope. Try again.

Hezbollah shooting Israeli children on their way to school?

Israel kills thousands of civilians. Hezbollah fights face to face. And no it's nothing to with hezbollah still. Take a good guess

 

[syrenn]

so far as i know.... muslim dogma is the only one that calls for outright death of anyone opposing said dogma.

My friend, you're more intelligent than that. Such perversions can be found connected to a great many ideologies. Islam is no more our enemy than Christianity is the enemy to freedom that some radicals on the left might suggest. We can't let radicals represent the whole.

your avi is way to distracting!!!

cults are cults...and radicals are not what i was responding to.

 

[syrenn]

so far as i know.... muslim dogma is the only one that calls for outright death of anyone opposing said dogma.

My friend, you're more intelligent than that. Such perversions can be found connected to a great many ideologies. Islam is no more our enemy than Christianity is the enemy to freedom that some radicals on the left might suggest. We can't let radicals represent the whole.

Stop with the bullshit.

I'm so sick of apologists who insist that Christianity must be punished for the extremism of Islam.

the christians want their way just as much as the muslims....

They just go about getting what they want differently....

 

[syrenn]

Do you even know what my avi is?

A Hamas fighter shooting Israeli children on their way to school?

Just a guess.

I dont think anyone really cares what it is. I know i dont....do you?


but it suits him well.....

 

[bobcollum]

My friend, you're more intelligent than that. Such perversions can be found connected to a great many ideologies. Islam is no more our enemy than Christianity is the enemy to freedom that some radicals on the left might suggest. We can't let radicals represent the whole.

Stop with the bullshit.

I'm so sick of apologists who insist that Christianity must be punished for the extremism of Islam.

the christians want their way just as much as the muslims....

They just go about getting what they want differently....

That's what I've always said.

The biggest difference is the level of subtlety.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Holy Jesus syreen called out Christians for the first time. I'm recording this as usmb history

 

[bripat9643]

Nope. Try again.

Hezbollah shooting Israeli children on their way to school?

Israel kills thousands of civilians. Hezbollah fights face to face. And no it's nothing to with hezbollah still. Take a good guess

Israel kills children only because those Hamas cowards are always hiding behind them.

 

[syrenn]

Nope. Try again.

Hezbollah shooting Israeli children on their way to school?

Israel kills thousands of civilians. Hezbollah fights face to face. And no it's nothing to with hezbollah still. Take a good guess

hezbollah...fights face to face...



OMG..... LMFAO!!