So Why Is Israel Allowed To Possess Chemical And Nuclear Weapons?...

Who died and left the OP "God" - that he might command sovereign nations? Yes, I also believe Iran should not be impeded in its quest for nukes. So long as it understands that it gets to use one and only one before it turns to glass. Ditto any other nation - including the (once) United States and (former) Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
 
Why hasn't Israel signed and ratified weapons treaties like the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty? It's one of the very few nations on earth that hasn't signed on to some of these treaties.

Because Israel is only NINE miles wide at one point and surrounded by hostile neighbors who'd pounce in an instant if they thought they could win. A nuke strike in Tel Aviv would cripple them. It's simply a matter of mutually shared destruction....the one thing an arab understands is terror and they're terrified, and rightfully so, of the IDF's ability and inclination to retaliate ten-fold if need be.

Well, others in the Midle East would argue that if Israel has the right to posess Nuclear Weapons, why don't they have that same right?

If they signed the treaty-----then they may not have that right. Why do you support the muslim right to bomb the brains out of children in surprise attacks on playgrounds?
 
Now before some of you brand me an 'Evil Antisemite', just hear me out. This is an issue hardly discussed in the U.S. We all know about the lengths the U.S. and West are going to keep Nukes out of the hands of nations in the Middle East. And that the U.S. was all set to go to war with Syria for possessing chemical weapons.

However, Syria has signed and ratified the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty. While Israel is actually one of the few nations on earth that hasn't ratified the Treaty. It also hasn't signed on to other Treaties pertaining to arms. So why the double standard U.S. policy in regards to Israel? Just interested in hearing what you all think. Thanks.
Israel, and Pakitstan, and India are not signatories to the Anti-proliferation Treaty and so are allowed to have nukes (because they never agreed not to). Same thing with Israel and the Chemical weapons ban..we can't insist someone follow a treaty they're not party to.

Here's the list of nations that have signed and ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention agreement. Note, Israel is one of the very few nations on earth that hasn't ratified it....

List of parties to the Chemical Weapons Convention - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Prove they have chemical weapons and nukes. No one has proven it yet. :dunno:
(Oh just to make sure, unsubstantiated allegations and flights of fancy do not constitute proof).

It's widely accepted Israel possesses both Chemical Weapons and Nukes.
Since when does "widely accepted" constitute proof? Kinda like it's "widely accepted" that aliens are preforming genetic experiments on us or that it's "widely accepted" that the government is beaming thoughts into our heads......... :lmao:

So you don't believe Israel possesses Chemical and Nuclear Weapons? Ok, cool.
I'm asking for proof, not personal conviction, try again.........
 
Now before some of you brand me an 'Evil Antisemite', just hear me out. This is an issue hardly discussed in the U.S. We all know about the lengths the U.S. and West are going to keep Nukes out of the hands of nations in the Middle East. And that the U.S. was all set to go to war with Syria for possessing chemical weapons.

However, Syria has signed and ratified the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty. While Israel is actually one of the few nations on earth that hasn't ratified the Treaty. It also hasn't signed on to other Treaties pertaining to arms. So why the double standard U.S. policy in regards to Israel? Just interested in hearing what you all think. Thanks.

Israel doesn't use their weapons offensively. they use them defensively and aren't a danger to civilized society.

you can proceed with the anti-Semite rant now.
 
Prove they have chemical weapons and nukes. No one has proven it yet. :dunno:
(Oh just to make sure, unsubstantiated allegations and flights of fancy do not constitute proof).

It's widely accepted Israel possesses both Chemical Weapons and Nukes.
Since when does "widely accepted" constitute proof? Kinda like it's "widely accepted" that aliens are preforming genetic experiments on us or that it's "widely accepted" that the government is beaming thoughts into our heads......... :lmao:
Israel is widely believed to have nukes. However, Israel prefers it not be proven. Ambiguity allows them to not have to renounce nukes and be pressured into joining the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Wise observation.
 
Why hasn't Israel signed and ratified weapons treaties like the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty? It's one of the very few nations on earth that hasn't signed on to some of these treaties.

Because Israel is only NINE miles wide at one point and surrounded by hostile neighbors who'd pounce in an instant if they thought they could win. A nuke strike in Tel Aviv would cripple them. It's simply a matter of mutually shared destruction....the one thing an arab understands is terror and they're terrified, and rightfully so, of the IDF's ability and inclination to retaliate ten-fold if need be.

Well, others in the Midle East would argue that if Israel has the right to posess Nuclear Weapons, why don't they have that same right?
Every sovereign nation has the right to own nukes. Even Iran. Even Iraq.

But every other sovereign nation has the right to enact trade and diplomatic sanctions against a country for having nukes.

Iran did not have to enter in a nuclear agreement with the US and the other five nations. They could have blown us all off, but then would have had to continue to live under very stiff sanctions which they could not afford.

So how can the world verify Israel's nuke/chemical weapons status? Should it be held to the same international norms as others?
 
Prove they have chemical weapons and nukes. No one has proven it yet. :dunno:
(Oh just to make sure, unsubstantiated allegations and flights of fancy do not constitute proof).

It's widely accepted Israel possesses both Chemical Weapons and Nukes.
Since when does "widely accepted" constitute proof? Kinda like it's "widely accepted" that aliens are preforming genetic experiments on us or that it's "widely accepted" that the government is beaming thoughts into our heads......... :lmao:
Israel is widely believed to have nukes. However, Israel prefers it not be proven. Ambiguity allows them to not have to renounce nukes and be pressured into joining the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Wise observation.
Why because he agrees with you? Now that's funny!!!! :lmao:
 
The short and simple answer is because they're not crazy hyper religious fanatics.

Really, they almost hit the trigger on the Yom Kippur war. Then we have the Sampson Option, I do believe Israel is the most dangerous country on earth, why, they are above the laws of the globe. They truly do believe they are the chosen ones, even if secular, and they use it to the max.

In other words, they think they are God Almighty and the rest of us exist for their benefit.
 
Now before some of you brand me an 'Evil Antisemite', just hear me out. This is an issue hardly discussed in the U.S. We all know about the lengths the U.S. and West are going to keep Nukes out of the hands of nations in the Middle East. And that the U.S. was all set to go to war with Syria for possessing chemical weapons.

However, Syria has signed and ratified the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty. While Israel is actually one of the few nations on earth that hasn't ratified the Treaty. It also hasn't signed on to other Treaties pertaining to arms. So why the double standard U.S. policy in regards to Israel? Just interested in hearing what you all think. Thanks.

Israel doesn't use their weapons offensively. they use them defensively and aren't a danger to civilized society.

you can proceed with the anti-Semite rant now.

Hogwash, Preemptive is the name of their game. If they do not have a reason to attack, they merely create one.
 
Prove they have chemical weapons and nukes. No one has proven it yet. :dunno:
(Oh just to make sure, unsubstantiated allegations and flights of fancy do not constitute proof).

It's widely accepted Israel possesses both Chemical Weapons and Nukes.
Since when does "widely accepted" constitute proof? Kinda like it's "widely accepted" that aliens are preforming genetic experiments on us or that it's "widely accepted" that the government is beaming thoughts into our heads......... :lmao:

So you don't believe Israel possesses Chemical and Nuclear Weapons? Ok, cool.
I'm asking for proof, not personal conviction, try again.........
Paying a price for blowing the whistle on Israel’s nuclear weapons, 30 years on
Mordechai Vanunu is still prevented from leaving his country and subjected to extraordinary restrictions for blowing the whistle on Israel’s nuclear weapons in 1986.


Avraham Burg panned for breaking ‘nuclear ambiguity’
Right-wing group accuses former Knesset speaker of treason for admitting Israel possesses ‘nuclear and chemical weapons’

Arnon Milchan reveals past as Israeli spy
Arnon Milchan gave a lengthy interview to the Israeli documentary programme Uvda, broadcast on Monday on Channel 2, confirming claims made earlier in an unauthorised biography that he worked for an Israeli agency that negotiated arms deals and supported Israel's secret nuclear weapons project.

The truth about Israel's secret nuclear arsenal

Israel managed to assemble an entire underground nuclear arsenal – now estimated at 80 warheads, on a par with India and Pakistan – and even tested a bomb nearly half a century ago, with a minimum of international outcry or even much public awareness of what it was doing.

Book Details : Israel and the Bomb
 
The short and simple answer is because they're not crazy hyper religious fanatics.

Really, they almost hit the trigger on the Yom Kippur war. Then we have the Sampson Option, I do believe Israel is the most dangerous country on earth, why, they are above the laws of the globe. They truly do believe they are the chosen ones, even if secular, and they use it to the max.

In other words, they think they are God Almighty and the rest of us exist for their benefit.
Sure thing there Sparkette........... :lmao:
 
Really, they almost hit the trigger on the Yom Kippur war. Then we have the Sampson Option, I do believe Israel is the most dangerous country on earth, why, they are above the laws of the globe. They truly do believe they are the chosen ones, even if secular, and they use it to the max.

In other words, they think they are God Almighty and the rest of us exist for their benefit.

Link? :eusa_whistle:
 
Now before some of you brand me an 'Evil Antisemite', just hear me out. This is an issue hardly discussed in the U.S. We all know about the lengths the U.S. and West are going to keep Nukes out of the hands of nations in the Middle East. And that the U.S. was all set to go to war with Syria for possessing chemical weapons.

However, Syria has signed and ratified the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty. While Israel is actually one of the few nations on earth that hasn't ratified the Treaty. It also hasn't signed on to other Treaties pertaining to arms. So why the double standard U.S. policy in regards to Israel? Just interested in hearing what you all think. Thanks.

Israel doesn't use their weapons offensively. they use them defensively and aren't a danger to civilized society.

you can proceed with the anti-Semite rant now.

Hogwash, Preemptive is the name of their game. If they do not have a reason to attack, they merely create one.
I see you haven't had your meds yet this morning........
 
Why hasn't Israel signed and ratified weapons treaties like the Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty? It's one of the very few nations on earth that hasn't signed on to some of these treaties.

Because Israel is only NINE miles wide at one point and surrounded by hostile neighbors who'd pounce in an instant if they thought they could win. A nuke strike in Tel Aviv would cripple them. It's simply a matter of mutually shared destruction....the one thing an arab understands is terror and they're terrified, and rightfully so, of the IDF's ability and inclination to retaliate ten-fold if need be.

Well, others in the Midle East would argue that if Israel has the right to posess Nuclear Weapons, why don't they have that same right?

If they signed the treaty-----then they may not have that right. Why do you support the muslim right to bomb the brains out of children in surprise attacks on playgrounds?

That would be Israel.
 
Prove they have chemical weapons and nukes. No one has proven it yet. :dunno:
(Oh just to make sure, unsubstantiated allegations and flights of fancy do not constitute proof).

It's widely accepted Israel possesses both Chemical Weapons and Nukes.
Since when does "widely accepted" constitute proof? Kinda like it's "widely accepted" that aliens are preforming genetic experiments on us or that it's "widely accepted" that the government is beaming thoughts into our heads......... :lmao:

So you don't believe Israel possesses Chemical and Nuclear Weapons? Ok, cool.
I'm asking for proof, not personal conviction, try again.........
Paying a price for blowing the whistle on Israel’s nuclear weapons, 30 years on
Mordechai Vanunu is still prevented from leaving his country and subjected to extraordinary restrictions for blowing the whistle on Israel’s nuclear weapons in 1986.


Avraham Burg panned for breaking ‘nuclear ambiguity’
Right-wing group accuses former Knesset speaker of treason for admitting Israel possesses ‘nuclear and chemical weapons’

Arnon Milchan reveals past as Israeli spy
Arnon Milchan gave a lengthy interview to the Israeli documentary programme Uvda, broadcast on Monday on Channel 2, confirming claims made earlier in an unauthorised biography that he worked for an Israeli agency that negotiated arms deals and supported Israel's secret nuclear weapons project.

The truth about Israel's secret nuclear arsenal

Israel managed to assemble an entire underground nuclear arsenal – now estimated at 80 warheads, on a par with India and Pakistan – and even tested a bomb nearly half a century ago, with a minimum of international outcry or even much public awareness of what it was doing.

Book Details : Israel and the Bomb
Obviously you missed my two posts relating to 'proof' and what that word means..... *sigh*
 

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