Spy Balloon

[AzogtheDefiler]

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Why don't we shoot it down?

It’s a mostly peaceful balloon

 

[Leo123]

And while we are at it we should revoke Wal Mart's business license to operate in the U.S.
After all, 70-80% of all the merchandise sold at Wal-Mart locations is Chi-Com made.
So anybody who shops there basically is supporting Communist China.
Maybe, if you want to be outraged, don't pick a silly, errant balloon to vent your ire on.
Pick up your picket sign and head for the nearest Wallyworld parking lot!

Talk to Xiden he’s China’s Manchurian candidate.

 

[g5000]

Talk to Xiden he’s China’s Manchurian candidate.

Go to one of his rallies and ask him, "Why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire?"

Then tell him not to run for re-election.

 

[tyroneweaver]

 

[Leo123]

With an incendiary missile, there wouldn't be much of anything left to land anywhere.

Now just imagine: Trump is in office and Putin has sent a spy balloon over Ukraine and Trump says to just let it go, too dangerous to shoot down!

You can just hear all of the howling baby lefter monkeys screaming russian asset/impeach right now, can't you?

We have lasers too.

 

[g5000]

This just in: A little Chinese boy is trapped inside the balloon!

 

[g5000]

We have lasers too.

Jewish space lasers.

 

[Ringo]

Here's the thing. These balloons fly very high. In the stratosphere.

They barely reflect the radio signal, so they have never been shot down by radar-guided missiles, and they don't care about gunfire, because they have a cellular structure and need a special anti-aerostatic projectile, which had an ultra-sensitive fuse capable of being detonated by touching the thin shell of an aerostat.
And their availability on aircraft is under great question. In the Soviet Union for the destruction of automatic drifting aerostat special aircraft with special armament were developed.

Well, the most effective (and in fact the only) method remains an attack by missiles with infrared homing heads in an attempt to capture the heated by the sun side of the balloon .

All the talk about the US not wanting to shoot it down is nonsense, of course.
They can't.
Either the weapons characteristics of the planes don't allow it, or the skill of the pilots.

But once again. Aerostats, are a very difficult target. And if ordinary U.S. citizens did not see this chinese probe, the Pentagon pretended it never happened.

 

[kyzr]

China sent a spy balloon over the US, the Biden admin does NOTHING. The US Air Force spokesman said it was a surveillance balloon.

Blinken postpones high-stakes Beijing trip after suspected Chinese spy balloon spotted over the U.S.

“The airship is from China. It is a civilian airship used for research, mainly meteorological, purposes,” the Chinese Foreign Ministry said on Friday.

www.nbcnews.com

HONG KONG — Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Friday postponed a trip to Beijing next week after a suspected Chinese spy balloon was spotted over the United States, two U.S. officials told NBC News.

Maybe the balloon is dropping another pandemic over the US? Or doing a practice run?

Maybe the balloon is just spying

Should the Biden admin have let the balloon cross the US?

China says balloon over US airspace is civilian airship

Foreign ministry says alleged surveillance balloon is used mainly for weather monitoring, deviated from planned course.

www.aljazeera.com

The statement said the airship has limited steering capability and “deviated far from its planned course” because of winds.

 

[g5000]

Here's the thing. These balloons fly very high. In the stratosphere.

They barely reflect the radio signal, so they have never been shot down by radar-guided missiles, and they don't care about gunfire, because they have a cellular structure and need a special anti-aerostatic projectile, which had an ultra-sensitive fuse capable of being detonated by touching the thin shell of an aerostat.
And their availability on aircraft is under great question. In the Soviet Union for the destruction of automatic drifting aerostat special aircraft with special armament were developed.

Well, the most effective (and in fact the only) method remains an attack by missiles with infrared homing heads in an attempt to capture the heated by the sun side of the balloon .

All the talk about the US not wanting to shoot it down is nonsense, of course.
They can't.
Either the weapons characteristics of the planes don't allow it, or the skill of the pilots.

But once again. Aerostats, are a very difficult target. And if ordinary U.S. citizens did not see this chinese probe, the Pentagon pretended it never happened.

Most military aircraft can fly high enough. And their 20mm cannons would be more than enough to blow the Intercontinental Balloon of Doom out of the sky.

 

[tyroneweaver]

 

[tyroneweaver]

first post nails it

 

[Damaged Eagle]

I bet a fifty cal could take it out if its as close to the ground as the video portrays it.

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[occupied]

They are obviously working on some way to get this thing intact.

 

[Burgermeister]

In any place other than Biden-world, that would be a rhetorical question.

 

[JoeC]

Here's my tin foil hat conspiracy theory. Biden says he wants to shoot it down.The pentagon says no, it might risk civilian casualties. Truth is nobody wants to shoot it down. Let it float across our nation gathering all the information it wants.In exchange Biden et al is assured that Taiwan is safe from Chinese invasion.

How's that for a theory?

 

[JoeC]

They are obviously working on some way to get this thing intact.

yeah, intact back to China.

 

[Delldude]

No, if a nuke were deliberately detonated for emp effect, it would occur at around an altitude of 200-300 miles and it would fry all unhardened electronics nearly coast to coast!

Such would be certain suicide for China, as I have already instructed you, all US missile/air force bases are hardened and impervious to emp, the only way to take out such a base is via direct kinetic assault, meaning a salvo of ICBM's!

China, Russia, North Korea, ect, would cease to exist 30-minues later.....

Please take notes.....

It is common knowledge that US military installations, at least highly critical installations, are supposed to be hardened.
An EMP attack isn't necessarily to take out silo's, it's to take out critical infrastructure, both military and civilian.The higher the altitude, the EMP would be spread over a larger area.

The threat of an EMP attack against the United States is hard to assess, but some observers indicate that it is growing along with worldwide access to newer technologies and the proliferation of nuclear weapons. In the past, the threat of mutually assured destruction provided a lasting deterrent against the exchange of multiple high-yield nuclear warheads. However, now even a single, low-yield nuclear explosion high above the United States, or over a battlefield, can produce a large-scale EMP effect that could result in a widespread loss of electronics, but no direct fatalities, and may not necessarily evoke a large nuclear retaliatory strike by the U.S. military. This, coupled with published articles discussing the vulnerability of U.S. critical infrastructure control systems, and some U.S. military battlefield systems to the effects of EMP, may create a new incentive for other countries to rapidly develop or acquire a nuclear capability.

High Altitude Electromagnetic Pulse (HEMP) and High Power Microwave (HPM) Devices: Threat Assessments

Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) is an instantaneous, intense energy field that can overload or disrupt at a distance numerous electrical...

www.everycrsreport.com

Discussion of EMP alitiudes:

Electromagnetic pulses (EMP) from nuclear weapon detonations at altitudes from 30 to 400 kilometers (18 to 50 miles) can damage or destroy sensitive electronic equipment at ground level. High-altitude EMP (HEMP) has the potential to seriously disrupt commercial and military communications, damage the electrical grid infrastructure, and interfere with command and control operations. These disruptions can adversely affect federal, state, or local agency missions and operations.

The effects of HEMP span a wide frequency range (very low frequency to a few hundred megahertz [MHz]), and encompass critical commercial and military frequency bands. HEMP effects also produce damaging currents within power transmission, distribution, and communications lines resembling effects of geomagnetic disturbances or storms (e.g., solar flares). These disturbances can damage or destroy both electronic control equipment and the power transformers associated with electric grid distribution. Protection from HEMP effects is, therefore, essential.

High Altitude Electromagnetic Pulse (HEMP) Effects and Protection | WBDG - Whole Building Design Guide

www.wbdg.org

That China balloon is said to be at 66,000 feet. I've seen reports that claim 10-40 miles and this one I linked says 18-50 miles. 66,000 is about 12,5 miles, 200,000 feet is about 40 miles.

EMP is supposedly the poor mans nuke.

 

[kyzr]

Here's my tin foil hat conspiracy theory. Biden says he wants to shoot it down.The pentagon says no, it might risk civilian casualties. Truth is nobody wants to shoot it down. Let it float across our nation gathering all the information it wants.In exchange Biden et al is assured that Taiwan is safe from Chinese invasion.

How's that for a theory?

Bad theory. The balloon has nothing to do with Taiwan.
General military opinion is shoot it down w/o any casualties. Very doable.

 

[BackAgain]

Shoot it down.