Story of the Birth of Jesus Adds to the Validity of Who He Is

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You really think I have time to go over this again? Especially since you are posing "arguments" that are either unrelated or at the most rudimentary stages.

Whether I believe in evolution or not is not the question. At all!

As it is, I see no evidence that evolution has taken place (the fossil record is not your friend) or that it shows any legitimate claims since mankind has been around to observe for ourselves. I think it impossible a quadrillionchanges took place from the beginning in all life forms to get to these hyper-complex animals we now have today --- and yet, not a single one shows any signs of wanting to become another species or grow something far more different than what it now contains. I am not impressed with micro-evolution to explain macro-evolution. I do not care about Darwin's bird beaks.

But bad to the "real question." I will grant you that evolution is how we got here. The question then is simple --- Could evolution ever have occurred without a supreme intelligence or designer guiding the process? And the answer to that is an absolute "NO!" It is a major insult to human intelligence to say we all got here by hook and by crook, by chance, by "natural selection" (which is a joke of a term if there ever was one.)

Evolutionist high priest Richard Dawkins says in his book - - - "Natural selection is the blind watchmaker, blind because it does not see ahead, does not plan consequences, has no purpose in view. Yet the living results of natural selection overwhelmingly impress us with the appearance of design as if by a master watchmaker, impress us with the illusion of design and planning.”

“the illusion of design.” --- right. That’s not science… that is agenda.

so do you beleive the earth was created 10,000 years ago in 6 days and is flat? or not?

No, I do not. But I could be wrong because God can make things appear howsoever he wishes, even if your carbon dating insists something is one million years old, it could have all been set in place a mere 10,000 years ago. I do not care. It is a total red herring to argue the earth's age when evolution has more holes in it than firing range targets.

Note: Do not try to pin me down or pin down the validity of Jesus and Christianity by doing a Bible search for quotes that get you all excited. For one, the Catholic faith does quite well in explaining almost any of it. But far more importantly, the revelations of the Christian God since Jesus' resurrection are legion and undeniably supernatural. Try discrediting all those signs and wonders.

I could the same thing about the gods of every other religion? what makes you think yours is real and all those are not?

the only difference between a theist and an atheist is.... an atheist beleives in one less god

Lots of reasons makes me think my God is real and the only One, and all those other gods do not exist.

However, no one reads long posts so that kind of limits what I can use as a defense.

Suffice it to say, the major, major miracles revealed by the Judeo-Christian G-d over the last 2000 years where neither science nor other religions can explain away is all the evidence I need. But those who do not want to believe in the one true God either ignore this evidence or they try hard to forget it was ever given. Their counter-explanations surely sound desperate and totally untenable to me. Not too mention Christianity is the only one that makes any historical sense, demonstrates incomparable charity, and provides the most sound reasons for G-d's divine mercy and justice and enormous gift of eternal life. Note: It is not just Christians who ultimately make it to heaven, nor do all Christians make it if they are total hypocrites and showmen.

Christianity is one of least historically plausible major religions, zoroatrianism has no miracle casting wizards, hinduism is 9000 years old so unlike Christianity we can't 100% prove that those things did not happen. Taoism is largely based on philosophy

and then there's every atheists favorite world religion

theyre all still made up garbage like yours but aleast theres no star babies who can walk on water and make food and liqour appear out of nowhere

There are more than 24,000 written manuscripts which say otherwise. No other event in antiquity has been more widely reported and documented. Which is pretty amazing if you think about it. Not too bad for a criminal whose ministry lasted 3 1/2 years and was put to death by the superpower of the day and teachings changed the world over a 2000 year period.

 

[Mudda]

Thats just what they wanted you beleive in order to make the average christian weak, powerless and ineffectual against their governor lord king etc and more importantly to shame anyone for not being meek, and to justify their persecution

So the Rev Martin Luther King was weak, powerless and ineffectual?

You have to go to a modern university to be that stupid.

MLK was a deluded old-time blowhard bible thumper.

 

[Weatherman2020]

King of Kings, Eternal Creator of all things yet born as a human in order to reach out to us. The announcement of His birth was not to Kings and Rulers, but to shepards, the lowest income people. He was not born in a palace, but in a cave used to hold animals, filled with animal waste. He was not placed in a silk bed to sleep, but an animal food trough.

God wanted us to know that He knows what it is like to be human and to reach out to us so that we may be with Him.

From Bethlehem would come a ruler, whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Micah 5:2

1)Micah 5 was about out of a lineage not a town thus says "Bethlehem Ephratah" (a persons name) not just Bethlehem under the gender of a town. That's why context says clan (lineage). In other words they lied and placed him in scripture that they themselves didn't understand or know Hebrew gender of words.
2) the Dec 25th birth is Baal's birthday thus the cave birth and description is actually plagiarising the story of Baal which is why his death scene also matches Baal tablets precise mythology.
Baal's son was the "morning star" which is why they say father & son are one, because Jesus is Baal masked as a Jew to convert Jews to Baal worship. Why else would they want to convert YHWH worshipers over to Jesus (Baal) worship if they were one in the same?

Ephratah identifies it as the town to the south, dufus. Not the Bethlehem of the Galilee. You and your Baal God love is hilarious.

 

[ding]

Thats just what they wanted you beleive in order to make the average christian weak, powerless and ineffectual against their governor lord king etc and more importantly to shame anyone for not being meek, and to justify their persecution

So the Rev Martin Luther King was weak, powerless and ineffectual?

You have to go to a modern university to be that stupid.

MLK was a deluded old-time blowhard bible thumper.

Big shock coming from you.

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

 

[Mudda]

Thats just what they wanted you beleive in order to make the average christian weak, powerless and ineffectual against their governor lord king etc and more importantly to shame anyone for not being meek, and to justify their persecution

So the Rev Martin Luther King was weak, powerless and ineffectual?

You have to go to a modern university to be that stupid.

MLK was a deluded old-time blowhard bible thumper.

Big shock coming from you.

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

I bet that you can't prove that he wasn't a deluded old-time blowhard bible thumper. Even with your hobbled logic.

 

[ding]

Thats just what they wanted you beleive in order to make the average christian weak, powerless and ineffectual against their governor lord king etc and more importantly to shame anyone for not being meek, and to justify their persecution

So the Rev Martin Luther King was weak, powerless and ineffectual?

You have to go to a modern university to be that stupid.

MLK was a deluded old-time blowhard bible thumper.

Big shock coming from you.

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

Why are white people so awkward around and obsessed with black people?

I bet that you can't prove that he wasn't a deluded old-time blowhard bible thumper. Even with your hobbled logic.

You mean like I just proved you were a racist?

 

[HaShev]

King of Kings, Eternal Creator of all things yet born as a human in order to reach out to us. The announcement of His birth was not to Kings and Rulers, but to shepards, the lowest income people. He was not born in a palace, but in a cave used to hold animals, filled with animal waste. He was not placed in a silk bed to sleep, but an animal food trough.

God wanted us to know that He knows what it is like to be human and to reach out to us so that we may be with Him.

From Bethlehem would come a ruler, whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Micah 5:2

1)Micah 5 was about out of a lineage not a town thus says "Bethlehem Ephratah" (a persons name) not just Bethlehem under the gender of a town. That's why context says clan (lineage). In other words they lied and placed him in scripture that they themselves didn't understand or know Hebrew gender of words.
2) the Dec 25th birth is Baal's birthday thus the cave birth and description is actually plagiarising the story of Baal which is why his death scene also matches Baal tablets precise mythology.
Baal's son was the "morning star" which is why they say father & son are one, because Jesus is Baal masked as a Jew to convert Jews to Baal worship. Why else would they want to convert YHWH worshipers over to Jesus (Baal) worship if they were one in the same?

Ephratah identifies it as the town to the south, dufus. Not the Bethlehem of the Galilee. You and your Baal God love is hilarious.

EPHRATAH WAS THE son or Grandfather of Bethlehem.
If you notice the verse is about a lineage which you come from and out of the "Many". But also this is obvious in context of verse says Clan=lineage.
Bethlehem was the son or grandson of Ephratah.

Micah says 'out of thee', as you come out of a lineage. Deceptive translations change this to 'born in' to refer to the town. Bethlehem Ephrathah= the tense in the Hebrew is MASCULINE GENDER and birthplaces are feminine gender therefore it’s not a birth place it’s a birth lineage one comes out of. Bethlehem the son (or grandson) of Ephrathah(1 Chronicles 4:4,2:50-51)
Micah 5:2 reads: "But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, too little to be among the clans of Judah (showing a lineage not a city )

 

[Weatherman2020]

King of Kings, Eternal Creator of all things yet born as a human in order to reach out to us. The announcement of His birth was not to Kings and Rulers, but to shepards, the lowest income people. He was not born in a palace, but in a cave used to hold animals, filled with animal waste. He was not placed in a silk bed to sleep, but an animal food trough.

God wanted us to know that He knows what it is like to be human and to reach out to us so that we may be with Him.

From Bethlehem would come a ruler, whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Micah 5:2

1)Micah 5 was about out of a lineage not a town thus says "Bethlehem Ephratah" (a persons name) not just Bethlehem under the gender of a town. That's why context says clan (lineage). In other words they lied and placed him in scripture that they themselves didn't understand or know Hebrew gender of words.
2) the Dec 25th birth is Baal's birthday thus the cave birth and description is actually plagiarising the story of Baal which is why his death scene also matches Baal tablets precise mythology.
Baal's son was the "morning star" which is why they say father & son are one, because Jesus is Baal masked as a Jew to convert Jews to Baal worship. Why else would they want to convert YHWH worshipers over to Jesus (Baal) worship if they were one in the same?

Ephratah identifies it as the town to the south, dufus. Not the Bethlehem of the Galilee. You and your Baal God love is hilarious.

EPHRATAH WAS THE son or Grandfather of Bethlehem.
If you notice the verse is about a lineage which you come from and out of the "Many". But also this is obvious in context of verse says Clan=lineage.
Bethlehem was the son or grandson of Ephratah.

Micah says 'out of thee', as you come out of a lineage. Deceptive translations change this to 'born in' to refer to the town. Bethlehem Ephrathah= the tense in the Hebrew is MASCULINE GENDER and birthplaces are feminine gender therefore it’s not a birth place it’s a birth lineage one comes out of. Bethlehem the son (or grandson) of Ephrathah(1 Chronicles 4:4,2:50-51)
Micah 5:2 reads: "But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, too little to be among the clans of Judah (showing a lineage not a city )