Stupidity knows no rank: "Climate change is a threat to our national security."

[crpravens]

Global Warming is bogus, just follow the money

 

[Fatality]

Global Warming is bogus, just follow the money

algores pockets are stuffed

 

[Old Rocks]

Most hydrocompaction is an elastic deformation process. Recall that elastic deformation is reversible, so that when the clays or peat dry out they compact, but when they become wet once again, they expand. Compaction, however, can become inelastic, which is not reversible. In such a case as the pores are closed by compaction, they cannot be restored when new fluids are pumped in.

The rate of subsidence relative to rate of fluid withdrawal can sometimes show when material passes from elastic compaction to inelastic compaction. If the rate of fluid withdrawal is large yet the rate of subsidence is small, this is usually an indication of elastic compaction. If, however, there is a large amount of subsidence with only small amounts of fluid withdrawal, inelastic compaction is likely occurring.

For example, in the Tucson Basin of southern Arizona, prior to 1981 the ground surface dropped about 3 mm for every meter of lowering of the water table. Since 1981, for every meter lowering of the water table a 24 mm lowering of the land surface has been observed. This 8-fold increase in the rate of subsidence relative to the level of the water table likely indicates that inelastic compaction is occurring. If so, then the subsidence cannot be reversed by raising the water table.



Oil & Gas
Oil and Natural gas are both fluids that can exist in the pore spaces and fractures of rock, just like water. When oil and natural gas are withdrawn from regions in the Earth near the surface, fluid pressure provided by these fluids is reduced. With a reduction in fluid pressure, the pore spaces begin to close and the sediment may start to compact resulting in subsidence of the surface.



This has occurred recently in the oil fields of southern California. For example, in the Wilmington oil field of Long Beach, California, subsidence was first recognized in 1940 due to withdrawal of oil from the subsurface. The area affected was about 50 km2. Near the center of this area, the surface subsided by up to 9 meters . In 1958 repressurization of the area was attempted by pumping fluids back into the rocks below. By 1962 further subsidence had been greatly reduced, and the area continuing to subside had been reduced to 8 km2. Still, up to this point, very little uplift had occurred to restore the area to its original elevation. This subsidence event has cost over $100 million.

Sinking Cities

Cities built on unconsolidated sediments consisting of clays, silt, peat, and sand are particularly susceptible to subsidence. Such areas are common in delta areas, where rivers empty into the oceans, along floodplains adjacent to rivers, and in coastal marsh lands. In such settings, subsidence is a natural process Sediments deposited by the rivers and oceans get buried, and the weight of the overlying, newly deposited sediment, compacts the sediment and the material subsides. Building cities in such areas aggravates the problem for several reasons.

Construction of buildings and streets adds weight to the region and further compacts the sediment.

Often the areas have to be drained in order to be occupied. This results in lowering of the water table and leads to hydrocompaction.

Often the groundwater is used as a source of water for both human consumption and industrial use. This also results in lowering the water table and further hydrocompaction.

Levees and dams are often built to prevent or control flooding. This shuts off the natural supply of new sediment to the area. In a natural setting sedimentation resulting from floods helps replenish the sediment that subsides and thus builds new material over the subsiding sediment, decreasing the overall rate of subsidence. When the sediment supply is cut off, the replenishment does not occur and the rate of subsidence in enhanced.

Many subsiding cities are coastal cities like London, Houston, and Venice, or are built on river flood plains and deltas, like New Orleans, Baton Rouge, and the San Joaquin Valley of central California. Mexico City is somewhat different in that it was built in a former lake.

http://www.twdb.state.tx.us/publications/reports/GroundWaterReports/GWReports/R272/R272.pdf

 

[Old Rocks]

How many ice ages have we had, puntuated by warming ages?

And man is the cause of it?

Libs are certifiable.

Well, well. Another braying jackass with a single brain cell. OK, bunky, old boy, how about some scientific evidence to backup your silly assertation.

Scientific Consensus on Global Warming | Union of Concerned Scientists


Scientific Consensus on Global Warming
In the past few years, scientific societies and scientists have released statements and studies showing the growing consensus on climate change science. A common objection to taking action to reduce our heat-trapping emissions has been uncertainty within the scientific community on whether or not global warming is happening and whether it is caused by humans. However, there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it. Below are links to documents and statements attesting to this consensus.

 

[elvis]

How many ice ages have we had, puntuated by warming ages?

And man is the cause of it?

Libs are certifiable.

Well, well. Another braying jackass with a single brain cell. OK, bunky, old boy, how about some scientific evidence to backup your silly assertation.

Scientific Consensus on Global Warming | Union of Concerned Scientists


Scientific Consensus on Global Warming
In the past few years, scientific societies and scientists have released statements and studies showing the growing consensus on climate change science. A common objection to taking action to reduce our heat-trapping emissions has been uncertainty within the scientific community on whether or not global warming is happening and whether it is caused by humans. However, there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it. Below are links to documents and statements attesting to this consensus.

yeah anyone that doesn't gag on Gore's cock has a "single brain cell", right Roxy?

 

[Alan Partridge]

jesus, you people, i'm amazed you have enough brain cells to type.

Al Gore is not the spokesperson for the global warming crowd, he's a fat pig of a politician who wanted to make some cash after his time in public office.

Al's not a scientist, so what do you people care about him? Is it a secret crush?

 

[Bfgrn]

Libruls will lie about anything and everything to make their "ManMade Global Warming" Religion the official religion of the USA.

The latest example: "Addressing the consequences of changes in the Earth's climate is not simply about saving polar bears or preserving the beauty of mountain glaciers," retired Navy Vice Adm. Lee F. Gunn, president of the American Security Project, told the panel. "Climate change is a threat to our national security."

"Climate change is a threat to our national security."

"Climate change is a threat to our national security."

"Climate change is a threat to our national security."

Yes, its THAT fucking stupid!

Kerry panel looks at climate change and national security - National Politics Blog - Political Intelligence - Boston.com

Isn't the Navy supposed to be comfortable with water?

Hey pea brain...did you read the article?

In 2007, eleven former Admirals and high-ranking generals issued a seminal report from the Center for Naval Analysis, where Vice Admiral Dennis McGinn serves on the Military Advisory Board. They warned that climate change is a “threat multiplier” with “the potential to create sustained natural and humanitarian disasters on a scale far beyond those we see today.”

This is because climate change injects a major new source of chaos, tension, and human insecurity into an already volatile world. It threatens to bring more famine and drought, worse pandemics, more natural disasters, more resource scarcity, and human displacement on a staggering scale. Places only too familiar with the instability, conflict, and resource competition that often create refugees and IDPs, will now confront these same challenges with an ever growing population of EDPs—environmentally displaced people. We risk fanning the flames of failed-statism, and offering glaring opportunities to the worst actors in our international system. In an interconnected world, that endangers all of us.

Nowhere is the nexus between today’s threats and climate change more acute than in South Asia–the home of Al Qaeda and the center of our terrorist threat. Scientists are now warning that the Himalayan glaciers, which supply water to almost a billion people from China to Afghanistan, could disappear completely by 2035.

Water from the Himalayas flows through India into Pakistan. India’s rivers are not only agriculturally vital, they are also central to its religious practice. Pakistan, for its part, is heavily dependent on irrigated farming. Even as our government scrambles to ratchet down tensions and prepares to invest billions to strengthen Pakistan’s capacity to deliver for its people—climate change is threatening to work powerfully in the opposite direction.

Worldwide, climate change risks making the most volatile places even more combustible. The Middle East is home to six percent of the world’s population but just two percent of the world’s water. A demographic boom and a shrinking water supply will only tighten the squeeze on a region that doesn’t need another reason to disagree.

 

[KittenKoder]

jesus, you people, i'm amazed you have enough brain cells to type.

Al Gore is not the spokesperson for the global warming crowd, he's a fat pig of a politician who wanted to make some cash after his time in public office.

Al's not a scientist, so what do you people care about him? Is it a secret crush?

This is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that you have no idea about what you are following. Gore not only start the hysteria, he perpetuates it, who the hell do you think dismisses all the other scientists? You think any real scientist would call another a kook just because they disagree? He started and completed the corruption of the government funded scientific community for the world.

 

[Oddball]

How many ice ages have we had, puntuated by warming ages?

And man is the cause of it?

Libs are certifiable.

Well, well. Another braying jackass with a single brain cell. OK, bunky, old boy, how about some scientific evidence to backup your silly assertation.

Scientific Consensus on Global Warming | Union of Concerned Scientists


Scientific Consensus on Global Warming
In the past few years, scientific societies and scientists have released statements and studies showing the growing consensus on climate change science. A common objection to taking action to reduce our heat-trapping emissions has been uncertainty within the scientific community on whether or not global warming is happening and whether it is caused by humans. However, there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it. Below are links to documents and statements attesting to this consensus.

"Consensus" isn't science, it's politics.....Nobody needs a "consensus" to prove Bernoulli's principle beyond any doubt.

And I don't give a flying fuck who is "concerned".

 

[Old Rocks]

jesus, you people, i'm amazed you have enough brain cells to type.

Al Gore is not the spokesperson for the global warming crowd, he's a fat pig of a politician who wanted to make some cash after his time in public office.

Al's not a scientist, so what do you people care about him? Is it a secret crush?

This is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that you have no idea about what you are following. Gore not only start the hysteria, he perpetuates it, who the hell do you think dismisses all the other scientists? You think any real scientist would call another a kook just because they disagree? He started and completed the corruption of the government funded scientific community for the world.

No, Gore did not start the information about global warming and GHGs. That honor belongs to Fourier.

Joseph Fourier - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Then an English Chemist, Tyndall recognized water vapor and CO2 as the two most important greenhouse gasses.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

Then Svante Arnnhenius quantified the effect of CO2, and even predicted future warming from it because of the burning of fossil fuels.

All Al Gore did was explain what the scientists have been saying since the mid-60's in layman's terms. In general terms, he had most of it correct. The fact that he has become a lightning rod for your stupidity is a point of humor.

 

[Old Rocks]

How many ice ages have we had, puntuated by warming ages?

And man is the cause of it?

Libs are certifiable.

Well, well. Another braying jackass with a single brain cell. OK, bunky, old boy, how about some scientific evidence to backup your silly assertation.

Scientific Consensus on Global Warming | Union of Concerned Scientists


Scientific Consensus on Global Warming
In the past few years, scientific societies and scientists have released statements and studies showing the growing consensus on climate change science. A common objection to taking action to reduce our heat-trapping emissions has been uncertainty within the scientific community on whether or not global warming is happening and whether it is caused by humans. However, there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it. Below are links to documents and statements attesting to this consensus.

"Consensus" isn't science, it's politics.....Nobody needs a "consensus" to prove Bernoulli's principle beyond any doubt.

And I don't give a flying fuck who is "concerned".

You don't give a flying fuck about much of anything, and no one with an ounce of sense would give a flying fuck about your opinion on any subject. All yap, and not a single referance to back up your nonsense.

 

[Meister]

Well, well. Another braying jackass with a single brain cell. OK, bunky, old boy, how about some scientific evidence to backup your silly assertation.

Scientific Consensus on Global Warming | Union of Concerned Scientists


Scientific Consensus on Global Warming
In the past few years, scientific societies and scientists have released statements and studies showing the growing consensus on climate change science. A common objection to taking action to reduce our heat-trapping emissions has been uncertainty within the scientific community on whether or not global warming is happening and whether it is caused by humans. However, there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it. Below are links to documents and statements attesting to this consensus.

"Consensus" isn't science, it's politics.....Nobody needs a "consensus" to prove Bernoulli's principle beyond any doubt.

And I don't give a flying fuck who is "concerned".

You don't give a flying fuck about much of anything, and no one with an ounce of sense would give a flying fuck about your opinion on any subject. All yap, and not a single referance to back up your nonsense.

Your rhetoric is really getting about as old as you are Old Rocks. In other threads there have been all sorts of bona fide references to refute yours. Just do a little research to find them again.

 

[Oddball]

You don't give a flying fuck about much of anything, and no one with an ounce of sense would give a flying fuck about your opinion on any subject. All yap, and not a single referance to back up your nonsense.

I give flying fucks about a lot of things.

Supposing that you're open to considering contravening references and information (which I highly doubt), what contravening references and information would you accept??

 

[Old Rocks]

You don't give a flying fuck about much of anything, and no one with an ounce of sense would give a flying fuck about your opinion on any subject. All yap, and not a single referance to back up your nonsense.

I give flying fucks about a lot of things.

Supposing that you're open to considering contravening references and information (which I highly doubt), what contravening references and information would you accept??

Evidence that would convince the AGU, AIP, and the Royal Society to change their policies concerning AGW.

 

[Dr Grump]

Libruls will lie about anything and everything to make their "ManMade Global Warming" Religion the official religion of the USA.

The latest example: "Addressing the consequences of changes in the Earth's climate is not simply about saving polar bears or preserving the beauty of mountain glaciers," retired Navy Vice Adm. Lee F. Gunn, president of the American Security Project, told the panel. "Climate change is a threat to our national security."

"Climate change is a threat to our national security."

"Climate change is a threat to our national security."

"Climate change is a threat to our national security."

Yes, its THAT fucking stupid!

Kerry panel looks at climate change and national security - National Politics Blog - Political Intelligence - Boston.com

Isn't the Navy supposed to be comfortable with water?

That's almost as bad as soldiers claiming they are "fighting for America's freedom" in Iraq and Afghanistan...

 

[Oddball]

You don't give a flying fuck about much of anything, and no one with an ounce of sense would give a flying fuck about your opinion on any subject. All yap, and not a single referance to back up your nonsense.

I give flying fucks about a lot of things.

Supposing that you're open to considering contravening references and information (which I highly doubt), what contravening references and information would you accept??

Evidence that would convince the AGU, AIP, and the Royal Society to change their policies concerning AGW.

IOW, you're waiting for the minds of others to be changed before you change yours.

A less objective and more unreasoning mindset cannot be possible.

Thanks for admitting that you're an unanalytical lemming.

 

[Harry Dresden]

PETA and Al Gore need to fly a plane through the Burmuda Triangle.

Al did that already....he dropped off a case of curlyQ lightbulbs....now it stays light longer there but gives off less heat....

 

[Chris]

jesus, you people, i'm amazed you have enough brain cells to type.

Al Gore is not the spokesperson for the global warming crowd, he's a fat pig of a politician who wanted to make some cash after his time in public office.

Al's not a scientist, so what do you people care about him? Is it a secret crush?

No one cares about Al Gore except the right wing nuts.

Increasing atmospheric CO2 by 40% is the issue, not Al Gore.

 

[Oddball]

BTW, OldRocksinthehead, I've saved #56 for posterity.

Your total lack of willingness to think for yourself will live on.

 

[Harry Dresden]

jesus, you people, i'm amazed you have enough brain cells to type.

Al Gore is not the spokesperson for the global warming crowd, he's a fat pig of a politician who wanted to make some cash after his time in public office.

Al's not a scientist, so what do you people care about him? Is it a secret crush?

No one cares about Al Gore except the right wing nuts.

Increasing atmospheric CO2 by 40% is the issue, not Al Gore.

if you say so i guess it must be true...