Taking Children Out Of States To Have Abortions To Be Considered Illegal 'Human Trafficking' In Idaho

[1srelluc]

Thanks for clearing that up…THAT makes more sense.

Yeah, the way FOX presented seemed retarded.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Idaho has no business making a law about what people do in other states.

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This is not about other states, obviously. This is about transporting someone across a portion of Idaho to get to the border of another state.

Do you live in Idaho?

If not, it's none of your business.



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[Dragonlady]

Because States have rights. They can make transportation services to abortion clinics and casinos illegal if they wish.

WOMEN have rights asshole. And women will not vote for the party who does this shit to them.

 

[multivita-man]

'A bill introduced in Idaho's House of Representatives would criminalize the transportation of a minor within the state or across state lines to seek an abortion as a violation of the state's human trafficking law.

Republican Rep. Barbara Ehardt introduced House Bill 98 on Tuesday, which would amend existing Idaho law "to prohibit the recruiting, harboring, or transporting of a pregnant minor to procure an abortion and to provide certain requirements and restrictions on a civil action," according to the legislation. '

Idaho bill would criminalize transportation of minors across state lines as a form of human trafficking

An Idaho bill would criminalize transporting a minor across state lines to seek an abortion as a violation of the state's existing human trafficking law.

www.foxnews.com

#Ca

I thought conservatives were all about limited government and so forth...

 

[Dragonlady]

Idaho has an exemption for rape.

Well that's a REALLY FUCKING STUPID LAW. Since a child has no ability to consent to sex, if a child is pregnant, they've been raped. If there is an exception for rape, then the law is useless.

So what exactly is this law preventing?

 

[ThisIsMe]

You most certainly can make a law where it is illegal to take someone elses kid out of state for a medical procedure without the parents knowing about it.

Noted, it did not make it illegal for the parents to do this.

No, I agree with that. The first comment was in relation to the fox article…the second comment was after 1srelluc looked into it further and found that it was about this being done without parental consent.

 

[pknopp]

Well that's a REALLY FUCKING STUPID LAW. Since a child has no ability to consent to sex, if a child is pregnant, they've been raped. If there is an exception for rape, then the law is useless.

So what exactly is this law preventing?

It is rape. What it is preventing.

33 year old has sex with his 15 year old babysitter. He isn't going to be able to get her an abortion in Idaho.

 

[pknopp]

No, I agree with that. The first comment was in relation to the fox article…the second comment was after 1srelluc looked into it further and found that it was about this being done without parental consent.

The Fox News article does mention it but yeah, kind of in a side note kind of way.

 

[ThisIsMe]

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This is not about other states, obviously. This is about transporting someone across a portion of Idaho to get to the border of another state.

Do you live in Idaho?

If not, it's none of your business.



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Well, the law is about doing these things without parental consent, which I agree with. The original article didn’t state that fact

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I thought conservatives were all about limited government and so forth...

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Do you live in Idaho?



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[pknopp]

Well, the law is about doing these things without parental consent, which I agree with. The original article didn’t state that fact

Original article.

Anyone who recruits, harbors or transports "a pregnant minor with the intent to deprive the pregnant minor's parent of knowledge of, and to procure, a criminal abortion" could face two to five years in prison.

It was a few paragraphs down.

 

[multivita-man]

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Do you live in Idaho?
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No, and than fuck for that.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

No, and than fuck for that.

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Well, then it's none of your business what laws they pass in Idaho.

I could walk to Minnesota from where I live and your cult all tell me the same thing if I dare express an opinion about the new baby-killing law they just passed there.



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[ThisIsMe]

Because States have rights. They can make transportation services to abortion clinics and casinos illegal if they wish.

Eh, see this is where I have to disagree. How does a state make a law about what you are going to do in another state, if what you are doing is not illegal in the state you are going to. I guess you could make the argument that a state could charge them for using their highways for the commission of a crime? But the activity is not being performed in their state.

Also, if a bank robber was arrested in one state to rob a bank in another state, would the state they were arrested in be able to charge that person for traversing their state to commit a crime? Likely not, they would just be arrested for planning a crime, not for traveling to the crime.

Besides, abortion services could be considered under the umbrella of interstate commerce, which are federally regulated.

I’m just not good with states trying to prevent people from doing things in other states. If Idaho wants to ban abortion, that’s fine, but what they are trying to do is regulate what people do in other states.

This begs the question….could those other states sue idaho for preventing people from coming to their states for legal services?

 

[pknopp]

Eh, see this is where I have to disagree. How does a state make a law about what you are going to do in another state, if what you are doing is not illegal in the state you are going to. I guess you could make the argument that a state could charge them for using their highways for the commission of a crime? But the activity is not being performed in their state.

Also, if a bank robber was arrested in one state to rob a bank in another state, would the state they were arrested in be able to charge that person for traversing their state to commit a crime? Likely not, they would just be arrested for planning a crime, not for traveling to the crime.

Besides, abortion services could be considered under the umbrella of interstate commerce, which are federally regulated.

I’m just not good with states trying to prevent people from doing things in other states. If Idaho wants to ban abortion, that’s fine, but what they are trying to do is regulate what people do in other states.

This begs the question….could those other states sue idaho for preventing people from coming to their states for legal services?

Your question has been answered. Parental Rights.

It's not illegal for a parent to take their minor child. It's illegal for someone not the parent without the parents permission.

 

[ThisIsMe]

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This is not about other states, obviously. This is about transporting someone across a portion of Idaho to get to the border of another state.

Do you live in Idaho?

If not, it's none of your business.



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That’s not really a good argument on a message board. By the same token, if Californian turned their state into an abortion mill, because you don’t live there…then you should have no opinion, right?

This is a message board…everyone has an opinion.

 

[rightwinger]

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This is not about other states, obviously. This is about transporting someone across a portion of Idaho to get to the border of another state.

Do you live in Idaho?

If not, it's none of your business.



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A State cannot interfere with interstate commerce or interfere with citizens crossing state lines

 

[easyt65]

I thought conservatives were all about limited government and so forth...

I thought liberals gave a crap about 'the children'.

 

[pknopp]

Anyone who recruits, harbors or transports "a pregnant minor with the intent to deprive the pregnant minor's parent of knowledge of, and to procure, a criminal abortion" could face two to five years in prison.

So maybe I'm over thinking this and I've most certainly not read the bill but looks to me like there may have been left a huge loophole here.

If someone took the minor out of state to get the abortion they would not have procured an illegal abortion, rather a legal one.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Your question has been answered. Parental Rights.

It's not illegal for a parent to take their minor child. It's illegal for someone not the parent without the parents permission.

No, my answer was in response to another discussion where they were suggesting Idaho could arrest someone for traversing their state to get an abortion.