Terrorists invite us to join them in debauchery.....US takes the bait

[rightwinger]

How we went to the Dark Side - The Week

America lost its collective mind. It was amid this mass hysteria that the Bush administration crossed a line that the U.S. had never before crossed, not even in fighting Hitler's Germany. In order to deliver us from evil, our intelligence agencies tortured people with a persistent, sadistic brutality that, we know now, left even CIA officers nauseated, shaking, and crying.

This is terrorism's sick genius. Terrorists invite us — seduce us — to share their Manichaean worldview, to respond to savagery with savagery, to join them in madness. "Make us safe!" Americans demanded. And so our elected leaders launched two wars, saw WMD where there were none, launched surveillance programs with virtually no limits, and embraced "enhanced interrogation." As justification, the White House and the CIA joined Machiavelli, Marx, and Stalin in insisting that the end justifies the means. Lots of individuals bear responsibility for the horrors detailed in the Senate committee’s torture report. But if we are honest, that journey to the Dark Side was a collective failure — and sobering evidence of how fragile our principles really are.

Except... out intelligence agencies didn't torture anyone.

As per the UN resolution on torture signed by Reagan......we did

More assertions utterly lacking proof.
See my sig for some level of comfort.

Nothing says........Rabbi is my bitch......like dedicating a signature to me

Thanks

 

[bripat9643]

How we went to the Dark Side - The Week

America lost its collective mind. It was amid this mass hysteria that the Bush administration crossed a line that the U.S. had never before crossed, not even in fighting Hitler's Germany. In order to deliver us from evil, our intelligence agencies tortured people with a persistent, sadistic brutality that, we know now, left even CIA officers nauseated, shaking, and crying.

This is terrorism's sick genius. Terrorists invite us — seduce us — to share their Manichaean worldview, to respond to savagery with savagery, to join them in madness. "Make us safe!" Americans demanded. And so our elected leaders launched two wars, saw WMD where there were none, launched surveillance programs with virtually no limits, and embraced "enhanced interrogation." As justification, the White House and the CIA joined Machiavelli, Marx, and Stalin in insisting that the end justifies the means. Lots of individuals bear responsibility for the horrors detailed in the Senate committee’s torture report. But if we are honest, that journey to the Dark Side was a collective failure — and sobering evidence of how fragile our principles really are.

You're utterly naive if you believe we never tortured German prisoners. Plenty of GIs from that war have admitted we did.

Did our government direct them to do so?

It wouldn't be surprising. Of course, no government official is going to admit that. Certainly, seniors officers directed it.

 

[The Rabbi]

How we went to the Dark Side - The Week

America lost its collective mind. It was amid this mass hysteria that the Bush administration crossed a line that the U.S. had never before crossed, not even in fighting Hitler's Germany. In order to deliver us from evil, our intelligence agencies tortured people with a persistent, sadistic brutality that, we know now, left even CIA officers nauseated, shaking, and crying.

This is terrorism's sick genius. Terrorists invite us — seduce us — to share their Manichaean worldview, to respond to savagery with savagery, to join them in madness. "Make us safe!" Americans demanded. And so our elected leaders launched two wars, saw WMD where there were none, launched surveillance programs with virtually no limits, and embraced "enhanced interrogation." As justification, the White House and the CIA joined Machiavelli, Marx, and Stalin in insisting that the end justifies the means. Lots of individuals bear responsibility for the horrors detailed in the Senate committee’s torture report. But if we are honest, that journey to the Dark Side was a collective failure — and sobering evidence of how fragile our principles really are.

Except... out intelligence agencies didn't torture anyone.

As per the UN resolution on torture signed by Reagan......we did

More assertions utterly lacking proof.
See my sig for some level of comfort.

Nothing says........Rabbi is my bitch......like dedicating a signature to me

Thanks

See my sig line, nutsucker.
Your thread is an obvious troll thread attempt that has failed very very badly and reveals you as the shallow ignoramus I've come to know on these boards.

 

[Sunni Man]

I would be honored to go hunting with Cheney. He would have made a great president.

Yes.....of N. Korea ......

 

[rightwinger]

As per the UN resolution on torture signed by Reagan......we did

No... we didn't. Not 'per' any instrument, signed by anyone, anywhere, at any time.

Causing mass-murderers 'discomfort' is not torture, PERIOD.

Just as patting a woman on her ass,or brushing her tit is not rape and, just as there is no right for a person of equal rights to murder another, when that other is deemed by that person to be 'inconvenient'.

And there is your problem...how many innocent men were tortured in a CIA fishing expedition?

How low must we sink in trying to feel "safe"?

 

[Roadrunner]

Ahhhh....so it was Bush's fault. What an interesting and original take on politics. Did mommy help you with that...idiot?

The web od deceit insured that Bush was kept in the dark. Plausible deniability, or lack of due process? Perhaps lack of intellectual curiosity. Regardless, this was a Cheney program from the start.

Do you trust Dick Cheney? Would you go hunting with him?

Only if the game were two-legged marxists.

I'm guessing that the banker Cheney shot suddenly qualifies as a Marxist.

But then again, a true Marxist is hard to find. Idiots without the least bit of political science education and a basic awareness of political affiliations are all too quick to point out their lack of intellect and sophistication and call everyone a Marxist because it's the only word they know. Mores the pity.

Oh good, some vapid pedantry to help us along. 99% of American leftists wouldn't know a real Marxist if he kicked them in the balls. Leftists in this country who fancy themselves as Marxists/communists would be the first worthless chaff lined up against the walls and shot if this nation ever became a real communist polity. Communists have little patience for empty proselytizing, and they have no patience for cowardice, both sacred tenets of the American left.

Useful idiots, the first ones real commies shoot!

 

[rightwinger]

How we went to the Dark Side - The Week

America lost its collective mind. It was amid this mass hysteria that the Bush administration crossed a line that the U.S. had never before crossed, not even in fighting Hitler's Germany. In order to deliver us from evil, our intelligence agencies tortured people with a persistent, sadistic brutality that, we know now, left even CIA officers nauseated, shaking, and crying.

This is terrorism's sick genius. Terrorists invite us — seduce us — to share their Manichaean worldview, to respond to savagery with savagery, to join them in madness. "Make us safe!" Americans demanded. And so our elected leaders launched two wars, saw WMD where there were none, launched surveillance programs with virtually no limits, and embraced "enhanced interrogation." As justification, the White House and the CIA joined Machiavelli, Marx, and Stalin in insisting that the end justifies the means. Lots of individuals bear responsibility for the horrors detailed in the Senate committee’s torture report. But if we are honest, that journey to the Dark Side was a collective failure — and sobering evidence of how fragile our principles really are.

Except... out intelligence agencies didn't torture anyone.

As per the UN resolution on torture signed by Reagan......we did

More assertions utterly lacking proof.
See my sig for some level of comfort.

Nothing says........Rabbi is my bitch......like dedicating a signature to me

Thanks

See my sig line, nutsucker.
Your thread is an obvious troll thread attempt that has failed very very badly and reveals you as the shallow ignoramus I've come to know on these boards.

Damn Rabbi

Why don't ya just post.......I am rightwingers bitch

 

[Camp]

Ahhhh....so it was Bush's fault. What an interesting and original take on politics. Did mommy help you with that...idiot?

The web od deceit insured that Bush was kept in the dark. Plausible deniability, or lack of due process? Perhaps lack of intellectual curiosity. Regardless, this was a Cheney program from the start.

Do you trust Dick Cheney? Would you go hunting with him?

Proof?
No, just more shit-spewing from the resident toilet expert.

It doesn't matter how much proof is provided to you. Being the asshole you are, you will just ignore the proof. The fact you don't know about Reagan's anti torture efforts on the world stage that was accepted at the United Nations shows you either don't know much about President Reagan or you are just a liar. Many people refer to the UN's anti torture convention as Reagan's Anti Torture UN Convention.

www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=35858

scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2009/04/27/reagans-convention-against-tor/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_against_Torture

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Ahhhh....so it was Bush's fault. What an interesting and original take on politics. Did mommy help you with that...idiot?

The web od deceit insured that Bush was kept in the dark. Plausible deniability, or lack of due process? Perhaps lack of intellectual curiosity. Regardless, this was a Cheney program from the start.

Do you trust Dick Cheney? Would you go hunting with him?

Proof?
No, just more shit-spewing from the resident toilet expert.

It doesn't matter how much proof is provided to you. Being the asshole you are, you will just ignore the proof. The fact you don't know about Reagan's anti torture efforts on the world stage that was accepted at the United Nations shows you either don't know much about President Reagan or you are just a liar. Many people refer to the UN's anti torture convention as Reagan's Anti Torture UN Convention.

www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=35858

scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2009/04/27/reagans-convention-against-tor/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_against_Torture

Proof: evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement.

That Reagan advanced anti-torture regulations, is in NO WAY evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish as fact or truth that the stressing of mass murderers equating to torture.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

3,000 killed in a terrorist attack and this asshole wants to call EIT's sinking to their level. We have a long way to go to sink to their level RW you delusional asshole.

 

[Camp]

Ahhhh....so it was Bush's fault. What an interesting and original take on politics. Did mommy help you with that...idiot?

The web od deceit insured that Bush was kept in the dark. Plausible deniability, or lack of due process? Perhaps lack of intellectual curiosity. Regardless, this was a Cheney program from the start.

Do you trust Dick Cheney? Would you go hunting with him?

Proof?
No, just more shit-spewing from the resident toilet expert.

It doesn't matter how much proof is provided to you. Being the asshole you are, you will just ignore the proof. The fact you don't know about Reagan's anti torture efforts on the world stage that was accepted at the United Nations shows you either don't know much about President Reagan or you are just a liar. Many people refer to the UN's anti torture convention as Reagan's Anti Torture UN Convention.

www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=35858

scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2009/04/27/reagans-convention-against-tor/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_against_Torture

Proof: evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement.

That Reagan advanced anti-torture regulations, is in NO WAY evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish as fact or truth that the stressing of mass murderers equating to torture.

Yes it does. You are just an idiot and to lazy to read the links, including the actual international definition of torture as put forth with the the UN Convention and signed by President Reagan.

 

[rightwinger]

3,000 killed in a terrorist attack and this asshole wants to call EIT's sinking to their level. We have a long way to go to sink to their level RW you delusional asshole.

We were built on a Declaration of Independence and Constitution that recognized the rights of the common man against an all powerful government. Basic human rights like protections against cruel and unusual punishment, a fair trial, right to face your accuser, right to an attorney......ALL abandoned after 9-11

 

[Missouri_Mike]

3,000 killed in a terrorist attack and this asshole wants to call EIT's sinking to their level. We have a long way to go to sink to their level RW you delusional asshole.

We were built on a Declaration of Independence and Constitution that recognized the rights of the common man against an all powerful government. Basic human rights like protections against cruel and unusual punishment, a fair trial, right to face your accuser, right to an attorney......ALL abandoned after 9-11

None of which would or should apply to an enemy attacking us causing 3,000 deaths of our citizens.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Terrorists invite us to join them in debauchery.....US takes the bait"

And unfortunately it's conservatives who for the most part advocate joining in the debauchery, motivated by their unwarranted fear and unwillingness to trust in the rule of law.

 

[rightwinger]

"Terrorists invite us to join them in debauchery.....US takes the bait"

And unfortunately it's conservatives who for the most part advocate joining in the debauchery, motivated by their unwarranted fear and unwillingness to trust in the rule of law.

When given the chance...they return to savagery

 

[Missouri_Mike]

"Terrorists invite us to join them in debauchery.....US takes the bait"

And unfortunately it's conservatives who for the most part advocate joining in the debauchery, motivated by their unwarranted fear and unwillingness to trust in the rule of law.

What rule of law? The rules you only make for us or is there some special law you are going to make that our enemies are supposed to adhere to?

How about you left wing idiots pass some stupid law that flying airplanes into our buildings and killing 3k people is against the law. Then we can make some stupid fucking law saying we won't treat their prisoners bad in any way and not stop the next attack.

Torture works when you have to deal with a bunch of lawless assholes out to kill your people. It's worked for centuries. It's why it's used. Your stupid fucking laws have never accomplished anything but putting yourself at a disadvantage in any war.

You're so shit ass fucking stupid you think laws will make war better? It's war shit stain. That pretty much meansd your stupid fucking laws don't apply.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

"Terrorists invite us to join them in debauchery.....US takes the bait"

And unfortunately it's conservatives who for the most part advocate joining in the debauchery, motivated by their unwarranted fear and unwillingness to trust in the rule of law.

When given the chance...they return to savagery

As anyone with any fucking sense of self preservation would. The trust of law is done when someone attacks you. Law is only good when both parties obey them. What rules of law do you see the muslims obeying?

 

[Votto]

How we went to the Dark Side - The Week

America lost its collective mind. It was amid this mass hysteria that the Bush administration crossed a line that the U.S. had never before crossed, not even in fighting Hitler's Germany. In order to deliver us from evil, our intelligence agencies tortured people with a persistent, sadistic brutality that, we know now, left even CIA officers nauseated, shaking, and crying.

This is terrorism's sick genius. Terrorists invite us — seduce us — to share their Manichaean worldview, to respond to savagery with savagery, to join them in madness. "Make us safe!" Americans demanded. And so our elected leaders launched two wars, saw WMD where there were none, launched surveillance programs with virtually no limits, and embraced "enhanced interrogation." As justification, the White House and the CIA joined Machiavelli, Marx, and Stalin in insisting that the end justifies the means. Lots of individuals bear responsibility for the horrors detailed in the Senate committee’s torture report. But if we are honest, that journey to the Dark Side was a collective failure — and sobering evidence of how fragile our principles really are.

As Obama is killing across the world with his army of drones all you can do is point to how Bush tortured people?

This is really what this is about, isn't it? It is the final Bush bashing party to end all Bush bashing partys.

Well guess what, I'm no Bush fan either, but you are a partisan hack, also known as a Gruber goober.

 

[deltex1]

Forget that bs...the ragheads invite us to kill them. Let's get on with it.

 

[Pop23]

Terrorists are laughing at us as they bait us to sink down to their levels

Then they claim they were always right about our true nature

Please link to where the US

1. Promotes child rape

2. Tortures than beheads civilians

3. Beheads foreign journalists.

Did I speak slow enough for you?