Thank conservatives, the middle class is still getting squeezed

[OnePercenter]

The far left has done more damage to the middle class across many nations and yet they want to blame others for their failed policies.

Which nations do you write of?

 

[OnePercenter]

'A thriving middle class is the sign of a healthy national economy' - Something I've been writing for years.

10 ways the middle class is still getting squeezed- MSN Money

The middle class is getting squeezed because companies have been relying on untrained labor to perform menial tasks, and have been paying a premium over and above the value of the actual value of the work. That balance is shifting, With the development of automation, and new ways to manufacture, and transport, goods, companies are shifting away from a labor intensive process, and paying people less while getting more at the end of the process.

This is not an indication that each individual is working harder, anyone that has ever shoveled coal into a boiler for 8 hours a day would scoff at the notion that an assembly line worker is working hard, so there has to be another explanation in the increase in productivity. Technology is probably going to eliminate the middle class as the backbone of the economy in the future, just like it eliminated the farmer as the backbone of the economy in the past. There will still be a middle class, but they won't be what keeps the economy alive, they will be the young adults that haven't established themselves, or the people who choose to live a simpler life.

Believe it or not, society will not fall down around your ears as a result. The only people that will suffer are the ones that refuse to adapt. You claim to be a progressive, embrace change. You are reacting out of fear, recognize it, adapt, and grow. Stop fighting, there is no reason to be afraid.

There is not a thing wrong with a declining standard of living for most of us. It is what we deserve for being so stupid and gullible.

If you haven't voted for Republicans for the last 40 years it would be 'others being stupid and gullible'.

 

[PredFan]

'A thriving middle class is the sign of a healthy national economy' - Something I've been writing for years.

10 ways the middle class is still getting squeezed- MSN Money

How is any of that the conservatives' fault?

 

[PredFan]

Higher food prices... Obama's RFS program diverting 39 million acres of farmland to ethanol production. Not Obama's program? Well fuck, he can end it can't he?

We're having a food shortage?

Growing income gap... rather than enact economic policies that actually foster job growth, Obama throws 58 billion of our dollars onto the market each month while record numbers of Americans enroll in food stamps, unemployment benefits, and disability. Wrong on soooo many levels.

March of the jobs... Bring 'em back, Barry. You know what you have to do. Quit sitting with your thumb up your ass. Do nothing mo fo.

Yeah, helping people is wrong on soooo many levels. No subsidies to throw at American corporations like during the Bush economic disaster.



Didn't it have an end date?



Sub-prime mess is from not policing the industry. That would be BushCo.



I made so much $$$$ in the market I couldn't take profit until January 2nd.



FYI: There is a fee in almost any kind of financial device.



To bring the cost down would be Socialist!



Regulation of commodities would take care of high gasoline prices.

Low interest rates... "Punishes savers"? Oh - you mean the savers that are putting their money in a savings account and NOT the stock market? God damn this shit is rich.

Anyone with a varied portfolio did VERY WELL in the past 18 month.

Page 12... "what do you think". I think this is boorish bullshit brought to us by someone with a $164 million dollar portfolio. And BLAMING it on the GOP.

I don't blame the GOP for the monies I've made. What I can't believe is that any middle-class person would support the GOP, Kochbaggers, or the looney Libertarians, when there's so much evidence that none have your back.

Dude, he just murdered your OP and all you can do is deflect.

/THREAD

 

[Papageorgio]

Higher food prices... Obama's RFS program diverting 39 million acres of farmland to ethanol production. Not Obama's program? Well fuck, he can end it can't he?

We're having a food shortage?



Yeah, helping people is wrong on soooo many levels. No subsidies to throw at American corporations like during the Bush economic disaster.



Didn't it have an end date?



Sub-prime mess is from not policing the industry. That would be BushCo.



I made so much $$$$ in the market I couldn't take profit until January 2nd.



FYI: There is a fee in almost any kind of financial device.



To bring the cost down would be Socialist!



Regulation of commodities would take care of high gasoline prices.



Anyone with a varied portfolio did VERY WELL in the past 18 month.

Page 12... "what do you think". I think this is boorish bullshit brought to us by someone with a $164 million dollar portfolio. And BLAMING it on the GOP.

I don't blame the GOP for the monies I've made. What I can't believe is that any middle-class person would support the GOP, Kochbaggers, or the looney Libertarians, when there's so much evidence that none have your back.

Dude, he just murdered your OP and all you can do is deflect.

/THREAD

No kidding, he can't address how the printing of trillions is hurting the middle class, or how Obamacare is hurting the middle class.

He also ignores how scores of businesses have gotten rich through Obama and his administration. The mere fact he won't recognize the fact that the Democrats are stabbing the middle class in the back, is mind numbing, how can he be that stupid?

 

[OnePercenter]

Obama, Democrat/commies are in charge for the last five years, yet it's all conservatives fault

can you imagine if this was going under a Republican President?

some liberals are nothing but sheep

It did go on during a Republican Presidency. Remember 2001-2008?

 

[OnePercenter]

why is this in the cdz? it's hyper partisan started by one of the boards most hyper partisan. Just look at how the thread is going, who wouldn't have guessed it?

Not to mention Dems have been in control of things for 7 years and counting.... If they can't get anything done with all 3 branches and at least 2 for the past 7 years what's the point of electing them at all?

He who has the most money has the most power. Corporate America ($100+ Trillion) controls the conservatives.

Who's the majority contributor to the kochbaggers?

 

[IlarMeilyr]

It is more than just a lot ironic that a post by a member with the username of "OnePercenter" should focus on some stale old class warfare rhetoric and manage to "blame" an alleged "squeeze" on the middle "class" on

conservatives.

How silly.

 

[Papageorgio]

why is this in the cdz? it's hyper partisan started by one of the boards most hyper partisan. Just look at how the thread is going, who wouldn't have guessed it?

Not to mention Dems have been in control of things for 7 years and counting.... If they can't get anything done with all 3 branches and at least 2 for the past 7 years what's the point of electing them at all?

He who has the most money has the most power. Corporate America ($100+ Trillion) controls the conservatives.

Who's the majority contributor to the kochbaggers?

More of your Bull Shit! Corporate America has Congress and the President in their pockets. Special interests groups love this Administration, hell, banks were bailed out by both parties and Obama never did go to prosecute any of them.

 

[OnePercenter]

This should be conspiracy theory forum

How do you cleanly debate a lie?

Thank conservatives, the middle class is still getting squeezed

A conspiracy stems from a secret agreement, there's nothing secret about this, just slow thinkers that haven't figured it out yet.

 

[OnePercenter]

Conservative policies and and ideas generated through corporate supported so called think tanks are creating a mindset that is counter to the American dream and America's values. Money manages America today and the money is about anti tax, anti worker, anti government, anti unions, etc. America's best years for all the people may be behind us as we transition to a third world nation of no manufacturing and outsourced work. Nafta and now the TPP are putting another nail in the coffin of the working class. While conservatives are primarily to blame, blame must also go all segments of our society. Libertarian nonsense is also at fault with its fantasy of free markets and individualism as solutions to complex global issues.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/educa...ue-to-avoid-tech-in-school-2.html#post8474984

"The rise of conservative politics in postwar America is one of the great puzzles of American political history. For much of the period that followed the end of World War II, conservative ideas about the primacy of the free market, and the dangers of too-powerful labor unions, government regulation, and an activist, interventionist state seemed to have been thoroughly rejected by most intellectual and political elites. Scholars and politicians alike dismissed those who adhered to such faiths as a "radical right," for whom to quote the Columbia University historian Richard Hofstadter politics "becomes an arena into which the wildest fancies are projected, the most paranoid suspicions, the most absurd superstitions, the most bizarre apocalyptic fantasies." How, then, did such ideas move from their marginal position in the middle years of the twentieth century to become the reigning politics of the country by the century's end?" Kim Phillips-Fein ('Invisible Hands')

The 'conservative ideas about the primacy of the free market' is actually 'their market', where they can control, foster, and reap benefits (money). There is no such thing as a free market anymore.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

It's kind of interesting (some might say "revealing," even) when an original poster chooses to violate the terms and conditions of a special forum he has chosen to put his post in.

 

[Big Black Dog]

You can thank dumb-assed Owe Bama for the "squeeze".

 

[OnePercenter]

Um, look around. Conservatives don't run the Country. What's his name, the socialist is still president isn't he? When are lefties going to stop whining about only controlling 2/3 of the federal government?

Who are the majority contributors to the kochbaggers?

 

[OnePercenter]

'A thriving middle class is the sign of a healthy national economy' - Something I've been writing for years.

10 ways the middle class is still getting squeezed- MSN Money

How is any of that the conservatives' fault?

How is it NOT conservatives fault?

 

[OnePercenter]

Higher food prices... Obama's RFS program diverting 39 million acres of farmland to ethanol production. Not Obama's program? Well fuck, he can end it can't he?

We're having a food shortage?



Yeah, helping people is wrong on soooo many levels. No subsidies to throw at American corporations like during the Bush economic disaster.



Didn't it have an end date?



Sub-prime mess is from not policing the industry. That would be BushCo.



I made so much $$$$ in the market I couldn't take profit until January 2nd.



FYI: There is a fee in almost any kind of financial device.



To bring the cost down would be Socialist!



Regulation of commodities would take care of high gasoline prices.



Anyone with a varied portfolio did VERY WELL in the past 18 month.

Page 12... "what do you think". I think this is boorish bullshit brought to us by someone with a $164 million dollar portfolio. And BLAMING it on the GOP.

I don't blame the GOP for the monies I've made. What I can't believe is that any middle-class person would support the GOP, Kochbaggers, or the looney Libertarians, when there's so much evidence that none have your back.

Dude, he just murdered your OP and all you can do is deflect.

Nah. 'He' presented a random non back able statement.

 

[OnePercenter]

It is more than just a lot ironic that a post by a member with the username of "OnePercenter" should focus on some stale old class warfare rhetoric and manage to "blame" an alleged "squeeze" on the middle "class" on

conservatives.

How silly.

It IS class warfare! We rich own your ass, and conservatives made that possible.

For instance; Middle-class folks on this board write of 'the worth of an employee', like an employee is slave traded. In reality, employees are responsible for 100% of revenue.

 

[OnePercenter]

why is this in the cdz? it's hyper partisan started by one of the boards most hyper partisan. Just look at how the thread is going, who wouldn't have guessed it?

Not to mention Dems have been in control of things for 7 years and counting.... If they can't get anything done with all 3 branches and at least 2 for the past 7 years what's the point of electing them at all?

He who has the most money has the most power. Corporate America ($100+ Trillion) controls the conservatives.

Who's the majority contributor to the kochbaggers?

More of your Bull Shit! Corporate America has Congress and the President in their pockets. Special interests groups love this Administration, hell, banks were bailed out by both parties and Obama never did go to prosecute any of them.

Really? Bank bailout programs began in 2008 as a result of 'somebody' allowing BofA to buy CountryWide.

 

[OnePercenter]

It's kind of interesting (some might say "revealing," even) when an original poster chooses to violate the terms and conditions of a special forum he has chosen to put his post in.

'The Clean Debate Zone is to be used for the clean debating of Government Policies, Candidates, Current News and Events ONLY. No personal attacks, name calling, flaming etc is allowed in this section.'

Where did I violate? Or are you guilty of flaming?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

'A thriving middle class is the sign of a healthy national economy' - Something I've been writing for years.

10 ways the middle class is still getting squeezed- MSN Money

The middle class is getting squeezed because companies have been relying on untrained labor to perform menial tasks, and have been paying a premium over and above the value of the actual value of the work. That balance is shifting, With the development of automation, and new ways to manufacture, and transport, goods, companies are shifting away from a labor intensive process, and paying people less while getting more at the end of the process.

This is not an indication that each individual is working harder, anyone that has ever shoveled coal into a boiler for 8 hours a day would scoff at the notion that an assembly line worker is working hard, so there has to be another explanation in the increase in productivity. Technology is probably going to eliminate the middle class as the backbone of the economy in the future, just like it eliminated the farmer as the backbone of the economy in the past. There will still be a middle class, but they won't be what keeps the economy alive, they will be the young adults that haven't established themselves, or the people who choose to live a simpler life.

Believe it or not, society will not fall down around your ears as a result. The only people that will suffer are the ones that refuse to adapt. You claim to be a progressive, embrace change. You are reacting out of fear, recognize it, adapt, and grow. Stop fighting, there is no reason to be afraid.

But without the menial tasks being completed the company would have made nothing, thus making the employees worth 100% of the revenue.

Because everyone named OnePercenter knows that thinking is not worth anything, which explains why you never do it.