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The Affordable Health Care Act, government cheese and slavery

johnwk

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If you do not consider the Affordable Health Care Act as part of Obama’s desire to enslave a large segment of America’s population and place them under the heel of an iron fisted government, then ask yourself, what is the object of slavery? Is it not an act in which the fruits of one person’s labor is forcefully taken and used for the personal economic wants and desires of another?

Those who have studied the Obamacare subsidy schedule quickly realize the very object is to take the bread which productive working class citizens have earned and redistribute it to those who are financially less productive. This of course is not done by Obama for a benevolent purpose. It is done to swell the numbers of an existing voting block who are very much dependent upon the federal government for its subsistence, who then have another compelling personal interest to sell their vote to those running for office who promising to keep the government cheese flowing, and vote for others who promise to add more to the government cheese menu. In fact, this is how many despotic governments remain in power. Once the majority of a nations’ voting block is receiving government cheese, those holding political power constantly talk about the virtues of “democracy” and claim they are doing nothing more than carrying out the will of the people while those having the bread they have earned confiscated to fund the “democracy” are deprived from enjoying the fruits of their own labor.

In the instant case a high school drop-out working in a low skilled job who earns about $17,000 a year will have to pay about $55 per month toward their premium. In addition to a subsidized premium, this individual worker will also be eligible for another subsidy to help pay for his/her out-of-pocket expenses such as co-payments, and deductibles.

Now, let us look at your average skilled worker in one of the trades [plumber, carpenter, electrician, etc.,] who is a productive citizen and earns about $46,000 a year. He gets to pay about $360.00 a month premium [seven times more than our above mentioned low skilled high school drop-out] while there is no subsidy for him to lower out-of-pocket expenses [co-payments and deductibles]. Keep in mind both workers mentioned above are assumed to work a 40hr week, yet one is enslaved by the iron fist of a thieving government to subsidize Obamacare costs for the other. Is this not the very definition of slavery?

But don’t expect the Republican members of the House to stand firm and represent the interests of Americas taxpaying Citizens who are being enslaved by Obamacare. The Republican Party Leadership will do exactly as they have done every time in the past ___ put on a good performance and then cave in while they work in secret with democrats to tighten the iron fist of government around the necks of America’s productive taxpaying citizen.

And why did our founding fathers require that all bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House? To find part of the answer involves nothing more than a review of the Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787 as reported by James Madison


On JUNE 13TH OF THE CONVENTION we find the argument for requiring all bills for raising revenue are to originate in the House of Representatives.

Mr. GERRY. moved to restrain the Senatorial branch from originating money bills. The other branch was more immediately the representatives of the people, and it was a maxim that the people ought to hold the purse-strings. If the Senate should be allowed to originate such bills, they wd. repeat the experiment, till chance should furnish a set of representatives in the other branch who will fall into their snares.

Instead of the House using its power over the purse to protect America’s productive taxpaying citizens, and tell Obama and his progressive thugs to go pound sand, the chatter of a “clean” continuing resolution bill to fund the Washington Establishments’ tyrannical doings has already begun, which includes exempting themselves from Obamacare.

JWK


If we can make 51 percent of America’s population dependent upon an Obama, welfare, food stamp, section 8 housing, college loan check, and now "free" Obamacare, we can blackmail them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills ____ Obama’s Marxist Free Stuff Party, which is designed to establish a federal plantation and redistribute the wealth which wage earners, business and investors have worked to create.
 
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All those years and all that money taken from taxpayers to wage a war of choice that ended up only creating a new ally of Iran, and you say nothing about it till your money may help the poor and sick get insurance instead?

You don't, like, sit around wondering why Mitt lost, do you?
 
All those years and all that money taken from taxpayers to wage a war of choice that ended up only creating a new ally of Iran, and you say nothing about it till your money may help the poor and sick get insurance instead?

You don't, like, sit around wondering why Mitt lost, do you?

You make a lot of presumptions in your post. And when does taking the bread which one person has earned with the sweat of their labor and transferring it to another become helping the poor and sick get insurance and not theft, slavery and tyranny?

There is no magic wand in government force which changes the definition of thievery. Those who use and rely upon government force to gain possession of the product of their neighbor’s labor for their personal economic needs are complicit in the act of thievery.


JWK




America will not regain her honor and splendor until the blood of tyrants is made to flow in our streets.
 
Nonsense, guys.

SCOTUS opined, TPM whined.


Exactly what is the "nonsense" you refer to?


JWK


"To lay with one hand the power of the government on the property of the citizen and with the other to bestow upon favored individuals, [Obamacare]to aid private enterprises and build up private fortunes [Obama’s green energy swindle, Obama’s bailout of Wall Street bankers, etc.] is none the less a robbery because it is done under forms of law and called taxation." ____ Savings and Loan Assc. v. Topeka,(1875).
 
The rich didn't earn their wealth. I reject the who premise that the well off got that way through hard work. Most of them didn't, and most of them don't deserve the wealth they have.

Mittypoo was born into wealth. He used it to steal yet more wealth from hard working Americans, who finally got revenge by destroying his life-long dream of being President. Ha. Makes me laugh. He only has himself to blame.

The Walton family of Walmart were born into wealth. They were squeezed from the womb of Helen Walton, which isn't impressive to me, and now live off the labor of underpaid Americans, and quasi slave Chinese.
 
The rich didn't earn their wealth. I reject the who premise that the well off got that way through hard work. Most of them didn't, and most of them don't deserve the wealth they have.

Mittypoo was born into wealth. He used it to steal yet more wealth from hard working Americans, who finally got revenge by destroying his life-long dream of being President. Ha. Makes me laugh. He only has himself to blame.

The Walton family of Walmart were born into wealth. They were squeezed from the womb of Helen Walton, which isn't impressive to me, and now live off the labor of underpaid Americans, and quasi slave Chinese.

And who the fuck are you to judge who deserves their wealth, and who doesn't?

If a person works hard and leaves a fortune for his descendants to use, its none of your fucking business, and more importantly, none of the governments.

It sounds like you are the one who is greedy, envious of other people's stuff.
 
All those years and all that money taken from taxpayers to wage a war of choice that ended up only creating a new ally of Iran, and you say nothing about it till your money may help the poor and sick get insurance instead?

You don't, like, sit around wondering why Mitt lost, do you?

You make a lot of presumptions in your post. And when does taking the bread which one person has earned with the sweat of their labor and transferring it to another become helping the poor and sick get insurance and not theft, slavery and tyranny?

There is no magic wand in government force which changes the definition of thievery. Those who use and rely upon government force to gain possession of the product of their neighbor’s labor for their personal economic needs are complicit in the act of thievery.


JWK




America will not regain her honor and splendor until the blood of tyrants is made to flow in our streets.

You know you seem to be paranoid, and your use of "slavery" and "Tyranny" is ridiculous.
 
If you do not consider the Affordable Health Care Act as part of Obama’s desire to enslave a large segment of America’s population and place them under the heel of an iron fisted government, then ask yourself, what is the object of slavery? Is it not an act in which the fruits of one person’s labor is forcefully taken and used for the personal economic wants and desires of another?


enslave a large segment of America’s population and place them under the heel of an iron fisted government ....


I only ask if that was your intolerant response to the outcome of the 2012 "Election" - or if the gov't shutdown is just a coincidental event, otherwise ?

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The rich didn't earn their wealth. I reject the who premise that the well off got that way through hard work. Most of them didn't, and most of them don't deserve the wealth they have.

Mittypoo was born into wealth. He used it to steal yet more wealth from hard working Americans, who finally got revenge by destroying his life-long dream of being President. Ha. Makes me laugh. He only has himself to blame.

The Walton family of Walmart were born into wealth. They were squeezed from the womb of Helen Walton, which isn't impressive to me, and now live off the labor of underpaid Americans, and quasi slave Chinese.
I suppose you have it in your will that not ONE CENT, not ONE MATERIAL ASSET will be left to your children.

Give it all to your GOD......government.

right?

You just have kids and then let them fend for themselves because they're undeserving of your efforts.

Wow. I now know why no one of any real sense would listen to the foulness that spews from such a mind.
 
All those years and all that money taken from taxpayers to wage a war of choice that ended up only creating a new ally of Iran, and you say nothing about it till your money may help the poor and sick get insurance instead?

You don't, like, sit around wondering why Mitt lost, do you?

Yup. The O/P can shove the cost of war: $1,000,000,000,000 up his ass. Not to mention 6,000 dead and 50,000 wounded.
 
I'd like to see a show of hands here of those who have received medical care in a country other than the U.S.

How much did it cost you?

What was your outcome?

Was it a country that had either partial or total universal health care?

(crickets)
 
The rich didn't earn their wealth. ....


Well, I didn't know you believe the carpenter I mentioned in the OP who earns about $46,000 a year is "rich" and doesn't earn his annual wage. How thoughtful of you to want to use government force to take the bread he has earned for his family and redistribute it to those who idle on the public dole and sell their vote to elected officials who engage in outright theft.


JWK

"To lay with one hand the power of the government on the property of the citizen and with the other to bestow upon favored individuals, [Obamacare]to aid private enterprises and build up private fortunes [Obama’s green energy swindle, Obama’s bailout of Wall Street bankers, etc.] is none the less a robbery because it is done under forms of law and called taxation." ____ Savings and Loan Assc. v. Topeka,(1875).
 
The rich didn't earn their wealth. I reject the who premise that the well off got that way through hard work. Most of them didn't, and most of them don't deserve the wealth they have.

Mittypoo was born into wealth. He used it to steal yet more wealth from hard working Americans, who finally got revenge by destroying his life-long dream of being President. Ha. Makes me laugh. He only has himself to blame.

The Walton family of Walmart were born into wealth. They were squeezed from the womb of Helen Walton, which isn't impressive to me, and now live off the labor of underpaid Americans, and quasi slave Chinese.

Her kids are drunks.
 
I'd like to see a show of hands here of those who have received medical care in a country other than the U.S.

How much did it cost you?

What was your outcome?

Was it a country that had either partial or total universal health care?

(crickets)

I love how doctors without borders will go to another poor nation and give free medical care, yet while in the US charge 300+ bucks an hour to treat US citizens.
 
The rich didn't earn their wealth. I reject the who premise that the well off got that way through hard work. Most of them didn't, and most of them don't deserve the wealth they have.

Mittypoo was born into wealth. He used it to steal yet more wealth from hard working Americans, who finally got revenge by destroying his life-long dream of being President. Ha. Makes me laugh. He only has himself to blame.

The Walton family of Walmart were born into wealth. They were squeezed from the womb of Helen Walton, which isn't impressive to me, and now live off the labor of underpaid Americans, and quasi slave Chinese.
I suppose you have it in your will that not ONE CENT, not ONE MATERIAL ASSET will be left to your children.

Give it all to your GOD......government.

right?

You just have kids and then let them fend for themselves because they're undeserving of your efforts.

Wow. I now know why no one of any real sense would listen to the foulness that spews from such a mind.

It is absolutely amazing how many rats have come out to protect their government cheese.


JWK

The liberty to fail or succeed at one’s own hand is a PROGRESSIVE‘S nightmare and not the American Dream
 
The rich didn't earn their wealth. I reject the who premise that the well off got that way through hard work. Most of them didn't, and most of them don't deserve the wealth they have.

Mittypoo was born into wealth. He used it to steal yet more wealth from hard working Americans, who finally got revenge by destroying his life-long dream of being President. Ha. Makes me laugh. He only has himself to blame.

The Walton family of Walmart were born into wealth. They were squeezed from the womb of Helen Walton, which isn't impressive to me, and now live off the labor of underpaid Americans, and quasi slave Chinese.

And who the fuck are you to judge who deserves their wealth, and who doesn't?

If a person works hard and leaves a fortune for his descendants to use, its none of your fucking business, and more importantly, none of the governments.

It sounds like you are the one who is greedy, envious of other people's stuff.

 
I'd like to see a show of hands here of those who have received medical care in a country other than the U.S.

How much did it cost you?

What was your outcome?

Was it a country that had either partial or total universal health care?

(crickets)
I'd love to see that, as well.
 


Why do congressional staffers, who earn on average about $60,000 a year - a lot more than our above mentioned carpenter - get a 72 percent subsidy to pay for health insurance? Why is our carpenter taxed to subsidize a federal employee’s health insurance in addition to being taxed to subsidize our high school drop out?




JWK




"To lay with one hand the power of the government on the property of the citizen and with the other to bestow upon favored individuals [under Obamacare], to aid private enterprises and build up private fortunes [Obama's green energy swindle] is none the less a robbery because it is done under forms of law and called taxation." ____ Savings and Loan Assc. v. Topeka,(1875).
 

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