The Biden administration has no choice but to pursue accountability for Trump and all his associates

[BWK]

IF they no longer hold an elected or advisory office, lets just move on.

Not if they got to that office illegally.

 

[K9Buck]

Never happened, and you'll never prove it. That makes you a liar.

You're a partisan hack that doesn't love the truth. You don't recognize the truth because there is no truth within you.

From that far-right media outlet, the Associated Press.

Obama’s Justice Department dug into confidential communications between news organizations and their sources as part of that effort.

In 2013 the Obama administration obtained the records of 20 Associated Press office phone lines and reporters’ home and cell phones, seizing them without notice, as part of an investigation into the disclosure of information about a foiled al-Qaida terrorist plot.

AP was not the target of the investigation. But it called the seizure a “massive and unprecedented intrusion” into its news-gathering activities, betraying information about its operations “that the government has no conceivable right to know.”

Obama’s Justice Department also secretly dogged Fox News journalist James Rosen, getting his phone records, tracking his arrivals and departures at the State Department through his security-badge use, obtaining a search warrant to see his personal emails and naming him as a possible criminal conspirator in the investigation of a news leak.

“The Obama administration,” The New York Times editorial board wrote at the time, “has moved beyond protecting government secrets to threatening fundamental freedoms of the press to gather news.”

AP FACT CHECK: Obama doesn't always tell the straight story

WASHINGTON (AP) — Former President Barack Obama's recent denunciation of President Donald Trump's treatment of the press overlooks the aggressive steps the Justice Department took to keep information from the public during his administration.

apnews.com

 

[K9Buck]

If any party goes after other presidents for political reasons...

That's exactly what your party masters did.

 

[Godboy]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

What crimes idiot?

You are simply advocating abusing the governments power again to harass political enemies including railroading Trumps people on trumped on charges. It's immoral and destructive.

Not at all. All the one's Trump pardoned were those who kept quiet about Trumps own obstruction of justice activities while interfering in the Mueller investigation, while Russia was getting Trump elected.

Trump is also on the hook for campaign finance violations in the 2016 election.

As for crimes already committed, he paid fines for illegally stealing money from charities that were supposed to go to children with cancer and creating a bogus university, stealing millions of dollars there.

So there, those are the crimes.

He is also on the hook for tax crimes of over 400 million dollars in tax evasion charges waiting for him, along with investigations into bank fraud and money laundering.

Trump is a career criminal.

If Trump's a career criminal then why did he never serve jail time??

You, however, are a biased ass.

They don't put people in jail for civil crimes. They pay fines. Now he's in a real mess with the feds over campaign finance crimes, tax evasion, bank fraud, possible money laundering, etc.

And you can't handle the truth.

Ok, then what civil fines has he ever been required to pay?

Legal affairs of Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And he's not done; The People vs. Donald Trump: An Updated Guide to Every Major Lawsuit the President Faces

Just because there are civil suits, doesnt mean a crime was committed. What civil CRIME has a he committed?

Those have already been posted previously. You can google it yourself.

Nope. Trump has committed no crimes that anyone can point to.

I posted the civil crimes. You asked for "civil crimes". Now you say he has committed no crimes, yet, you have not rebutted the civil crimes for which Trump was charged and fined for. You aren't making any sense, while contradicting yourself. You must make a case that Trump has not been charged and fined for civil crimes. But you won't, because you can't.

Civil cases arent the same thing as criminal cases.

What Is the Difference Between Criminal Law and Civil Law?

Who initiates, standards of proof, and the case of O.J. Simpson.

www.britannica.com

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Can a Case Be Both Criminal and Civil? | Adam S. Kutner, Injury Attorneys

Our experienced Las Vegas injury lawyers explain how a case could be both criminal and civil. Here's what to know about criminal and civil cases in Nevada.

www.askadamskutner.com

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...but Trumps cases were not criminal, they were just civil.

 

[Godboy]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

What crimes idiot?

You are simply advocating abusing the governments power again to harass political enemies including railroading Trumps people on trumped on charges. It's immoral and destructive.

Not at all. All the one's Trump pardoned were those who kept quiet about Trumps own obstruction of justice activities while interfering in the Mueller investigation, while Russia was getting Trump elected.

Trump is also on the hook for campaign finance violations in the 2016 election.

As for crimes already committed, he paid fines for illegally stealing money from charities that were supposed to go to children with cancer and creating a bogus university, stealing millions of dollars there.

So there, those are the crimes.

He is also on the hook for tax crimes of over 400 million dollars in tax evasion charges waiting for him, along with investigations into bank fraud and money laundering.

Trump is a career criminal.

If Trump's a career criminal then why did he never serve jail time??

You, however, are a biased ass.

They don't put people in jail for civil crimes. They pay fines. Now he's in a real mess with the feds over campaign finance crimes, tax evasion, bank fraud, possible money laundering, etc.

And you can't handle the truth.

Ok, then what civil fines has he ever been required to pay?

Legal affairs of Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And he's not done; The People vs. Donald Trump: An Updated Guide to Every Major Lawsuit the President Faces

Just because there are civil suits, doesnt mean a crime was committed. What civil CRIME has a he committed?

Owing $400 plus million dollars in taxes Trump didn't pay, is a civil crime that hurts society as a whole.

Stealing millions from a charitable organization that was supposed to go to children with cancer, is a civil crime that hurts society, because it gives charitable organizations a bad name. Which begs the question, do you yourself have any self respect when you support thieves who steal from charities going to children with cancer? This says more about you than Trump and his crooked family.

YOU ARE, AT BEST A CLOWN GOING AROUND SAYING TRUMP OWES $400 MILLION IN TAXES. ARE YOU A TAX LAWYER,? ARE YOU A PERSONAL FRIENT OF TRUMP? OR ARE YOU AN IDIOT WHO TAKES EVERYTHING SOME OTHER IDIOT SAYS AS FACT? Most have figured it out.

Ask Trump. He doesn't deny it; Pushed on taxes at town hall, President Donald Trump doesn't deny $400 million in debt

I believe it and it isnt unusual. My point is, he is a very rich and successful businessman. Anyone who says otherwise is fucking stupid.

A thief is no businessman.

Thievery is illegal. If Trump was a thief, he would have been charged with a crime.

 

[Nostra]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.

It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.

This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.

You're a moron too for posing this.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.

Yeah, I also hear Clinton is going to jail any day! LOL!!!

Heard from who? Your own echoes? Lol!

I noticed you presented no intelligent counter rebuttal to my argument. How come? Because you have no argument. That's why you ran like a coward to some Clinton nonsense.

Because your argument is based on feelings and not facts. Nothing will come of this, just as nothing has become of any other administration and their crimes. Biden is not going to pursue anything that will rock future presidencies.

From Reagan to Trump and every President in between, the hammer was going to drop on a president and never did. Until it actually happens, this is a big nothing. You go on on how it will work, in the end, it won't work.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon. Explain to me exactly in legal terms, why this fact is not a fact. I know of no statute that protects any president from pardoning criminals just to protect yourself against your own criminal liability. Show us where that exists.
As for it not working, it has to work. Democracy depends on it working, or we will have presidents who are above the law, who will be able to do anything they want, with no consequence. That is your argument.

Lots of things can be crimes and lots of things you can investigate, hell how many years have they been after Clinton and nothing. Democrats said Scott Walker would be arrested and we have not seen that either.

You can claim there is a crime, you can claim whatever you want however until someone is prosecuted you have nothing. Biden is not going to push it and neither will any other federal Democrat, the best chance would be the state of New York and that could be tied up for many many years to come.

There you go again. You are running. "Clinton?" Lol! You just can't keep it in the road can you?

It is public knowledge that Trump has avoided paying taxes. He owes in excess of over $400 million dollars, which he tried to hide from the public until he couldn't. I would be in jail right now if I owed that much money to the IRS.

Biden might not push it, but the country has to. We lose our Democracy if we don't. Every president is above the law if it isn't pursued. We have no other choice.

Wait a minute....
It is Public knowledge that Trump avoided paying taxes?

The most scrutinized man in America and the IRS did not notice that?

It is public knowledge that he owes 400 million and the IRS is not aware of such public knowledge?

You mean, the IRS puts a lien on a house of a family with 75K a year in income due to owed taxes but they ignore the fact that a billionaire owes 400 Million in taxes?

A man who has had half of congress search for dirt on him for 4 years owes 400 million in taxes but the IRS doesnt know?

Are you sure of that?

Really?

Are you really sure of that?

Grow up skippy.

Pushed on taxes at town hall, President Donald Trump doesn't deny $400 million in debt I'm very sure.

The IRS just doesn’t throw people in jail if there are delinquent. They set up payment arrangements and if Trump admits to owing and is willing, the IRS will set up a plan, they won’t take him to court, there is no criminal case, unless he refuses to pay. So far you are coming up empty.

Yea right. Set up payments. The man is $421 million dollars in debt. If he paid a million a month he would be paying for35 years. Dude, get real.

The "Rev" Al Sharpton owed millions in IRS debt for years. How long did he spend in prison?

You are a dumbass.

 

[Oldestyle]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

Who is it that decided that Laurence Tribe is "the foremost authority on Constitutional law? If that's the case then why bother having a Supreme Court! Just let Larry make the call on that! (double eye roll)

Okay!Laurence H. Tribe | Harvard Law School

I'm well aware of who Tribe is...I'm simply amused that you've decided that he's the foremost authority on Constitutional law! By definition it's the Supreme Court and it's Justices that are the foremost authority on Constitutional law!

 

[Oldestyle]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

Let me get this straight...you think the number one priority of the Biden Administration should be to pursue criminal charges against Donald Trump, his associates and his family members? Did you seriously just make that statement? (eye roll)

There is Trump Derangement Syndrome and then there is YOU...you've taken TDS to whole new levels!

It's going to happen. Then I get to do the eye roll right?

If Joe Biden wastes ten minutes pursuing criminal charges against Donald Trump with all of the other pressing issues that we as a nation face...then he has no business being President!

 

[excalibur]

Don't be surprised if the Manhattan D.A. issues a warrant for Trump's arrest at 12:01 p.m on Jan. 20

Trump’s Bank Was Subpoenaed by N.Y. Prosecutors in Criminal Inquiry (Published 2020)

The subpoena, sent to Deutsche Bank, suggests that the inquiry into President Trump’s business practices is more wide-ranging than previously known.

www.nytimes.com

Purely driven by corrupt Democrat pols.

 

[easyt65]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

Yeah, SEEKING REVENGE for America rejecting your criminal candidate in a loss in an election is always 'unavoidable' for Democrats...

 

[BWK]

Never happened, and you'll never prove it. That makes you a liar.

You're a partisan hack that doesn't love the truth. You don't recognize the truth because there is no truth within you.

From that far-right media outlet, the Associated Press.

Obama’s Justice Department dug into confidential communications between news organizations and their sources as part of that effort.

In 2013 the Obama administration obtained the records of 20 Associated Press office phone lines and reporters’ home and cell phones, seizing them without notice, as part of an investigation into the disclosure of information about a foiled al-Qaida terrorist plot.

AP was not the target of the investigation. But it called the seizure a “massive and unprecedented intrusion” into its news-gathering activities, betraying information about its operations “that the government has no conceivable right to know.”

Obama’s Justice Department also secretly dogged Fox News journalist James Rosen, getting his phone records, tracking his arrivals and departures at the State Department through his security-badge use, obtaining a search warrant to see his personal emails and naming him as a possible criminal conspirator in the investigation of a news leak.

“The Obama administration,” The New York Times editorial board wrote at the time, “has moved beyond protecting government secrets to threatening fundamental freedoms of the press to gather news.”

AP FACT CHECK: Obama doesn't always tell the straight story

WASHINGTON (AP) — Former President Barack Obama's recent denunciation of President Donald Trump's treatment of the press overlooks the aggressive steps the Justice Department took to keep information from the public during his administration.

apnews.com

When you don't know the full details of an investigation, tossing out softball excuses, doesn't help your argument. The move by the DOJ was justified, therefore, you are a liar as always;

A spokesperson for the U.S. Attorney's office in Washington defended the DOJ's move, suggesting the department was allowed to secretly pull those records because of the ongoing nature of the criminal probe.

"We must notify the media organization in advance unless doing so would pose a substantial threat to the integrity of the investigation," the office said, according to CNN. "Because we value the freedom of the press, we are always careful and deliberative in seeking to strike the right balance between the public interest in the free flow of information and the public interest in the fair and effective administration of our criminal laws."

Matthew Miller, a former spokesman for Holder, told The Huffington Post that the DOJ's only other option would have been to subpoena the reporters.

 

[BWK]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

Yeah, SEEKING REVENGE for America rejecting your criminal candidate in a loss in an election is always 'unavoidable' for Democrats...

Not if you don't produce the evidence. That means you lose again.

 

[BWK]

Don't be surprised if the Manhattan D.A. issues a warrant for Trump's arrest at 12:01 p.m on Jan. 20

Trump’s Bank Was Subpoenaed by N.Y. Prosecutors in Criminal Inquiry (Published 2020)

The subpoena, sent to Deutsche Bank, suggests that the inquiry into President Trump’s business practices is more wide-ranging than previously known.

www.nytimes.com

Purely driven by corrupt Democrat pols.

Show us the proven corruption, or you are nothing more than a liar.

 

[BWK]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

Let me get this straight...you think the number one priority of the Biden Administration should be to pursue criminal charges against Donald Trump, his associates and his family members? Did you seriously just make that statement? (eye roll)

There is Trump Derangement Syndrome and then there is YOU...you've taken TDS to whole new levels!

It's going to happen. Then I get to do the eye roll right?

If Joe Biden wastes ten minutes pursuing criminal charges against Donald Trump with all of the other pressing issues that we as a nation face...then he has no business being President!

The only thing in this country that separates us from an authoritarian dictatorship, is ignoring Democracy. Democrats aren't going to do that. We understand your hatred of this country and its Democratic values, but we don't share the same ideology.

 

[j-mac]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law...

Says who? MSNBC?

 

[BWK]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

Who is it that decided that Laurence Tribe is "the foremost authority on Constitutional law? If that's the case then why bother having a Supreme Court! Just let Larry make the call on that! (double eye roll)

Okay!Laurence H. Tribe | Harvard Law School

I'm well aware of who Tribe is...I'm simply amused that you've decided that he's the foremost authority on Constitutional law! By definition it's the Supreme Court and it's Justices that are the foremost authority on Constitutional law!

Where do you think the justices decisions come from? The justices are not what make up Constitutional law. It's the constitutional law that should make up the justices. Your argument is ass backwards.

 

[BWK]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law...

Says who? MSNBC?

Laurence Tribe is not MSNBC. Stupid question!

 

[BWK]

Don't be surprised if the Manhattan D.A. issues a warrant for Trump's arrest at 12:01 p.m on Jan. 20

Trump’s Bank Was Subpoenaed by N.Y. Prosecutors in Criminal Inquiry (Published 2020)

The subpoena, sent to Deutsche Bank, suggests that the inquiry into President Trump’s business practices is more wide-ranging than previously known.

www.nytimes.com

Purely driven by corrupt Democrat pols.

How exactly?

 

[San Souci]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

So a constitutional scholar wants to ignore the constitution?

Typical prog.

Prog? Try typical Lib bitch.

There is nothing "liberal" about the modern SJW type progressive.

SJW??? Doesn't matter. Libs suck. All "Social Justice" sucks. Far more important things to do here.

 

[SC Patriot]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.

It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.

This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.

You're a moron too for posing this.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.

Yeah, I also hear Clinton is going to jail any day! LOL!!!

Heard from who? Your own echoes? Lol!

I noticed you presented no intelligent counter rebuttal to my argument. How come? Because you have no argument. That's why you ran like a coward to some Clinton nonsense.

Because your argument is based on feelings and not facts. Nothing will come of this, just as nothing has become of any other administration and their crimes. Biden is not going to pursue anything that will rock future presidencies.

From Reagan to Trump and every President in between, the hammer was going to drop on a president and never did. Until it actually happens, this is a big nothing. You go on on how it will work, in the end, it won't work.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon. Explain to me exactly in legal terms, why this fact is not a fact. I know of no statute that protects any president from pardoning criminals just to protect yourself against your own criminal liability. Show us where that exists.
As for it not working, it has to work. Democracy depends on it working, or we will have presidents who are above the law, who will be able to do anything they want, with no consequence. That is your argument.

Lots of things can be crimes and lots of things you can investigate, hell how many years have they been after Clinton and nothing. Democrats said Scott Walker would be arrested and we have not seen that either.

You can claim there is a crime, you can claim whatever you want however until someone is prosecuted you have nothing. Biden is not going to push it and neither will any other federal Democrat, the best chance would be the state of New York and that could be tied up for many many years to come.

There you go again. You are running. "Clinton?" Lol! You just can't keep it in the road can you?

It is public knowledge that Trump has avoided paying taxes. He owes in excess of over $400 million dollars, which he tried to hide from the public until he couldn't. I would be in jail right now if I owed that much money to the IRS.

Biden might not push it, but the country has to. We lose our Democracy if we don't. Every president is above the law if it isn't pursued. We have no other choice.

Wait a minute....
It is Public knowledge that Trump avoided paying taxes?

The most scrutinized man in America and the IRS did not notice that?

It is public knowledge that he owes 400 million and the IRS is not aware of such public knowledge?

You mean, the IRS puts a lien on a house of a family with 75K a year in income due to owed taxes but they ignore the fact that a billionaire owes 400 Million in taxes?

A man who has had half of congress search for dirt on him for 4 years owes 400 million in taxes but the IRS doesnt know?

Are you sure of that?

Really?

Are you really sure of that?

Grow up skippy.

I had to point out to the moron that "avoiding" taxes is not illegal. Every taxpayer does it anytime they utilize a deduction or exemption.

I wonder how many "progressives" do not allow their accountants to capitalize on legal tax deductions because the prefer to pay more taxes.
I bet that number is around.....zero