The big question about life on other planets: 1000000000000000000000 planets in the universe

[K9Buck]

This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

I'm obviously WAY late to this discussion, but my take on discovering life on other planets is sort of like how explorers discovered life in other part of our planet. If there is life elsewhere in the universe, then they too are part of God's plan.

 

[RWS]

But it's really nice out here in heaven....Here's something I can tell ya...

You are wrong
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You say that I am wrong? That's called middle heaven in the Bible or where the "god of the world and prince of the power of the air" and his demons live. god has you hooked but good.

Communism has never existed. It's the Utopia/heaven for people that follow the socialist religion. Isolated communist groups have been created, but ultimately failed, probably due to human greed.

So calling non-believers communists shows ignorance. Which you show towards common sense too.

 

[RWS]

Another thing to add... Religious heaven (if there is one) will be based on communist economy rather than a capitalist one.

Bc we won't have money in heaven. We just gotta share...

 

[RWS]

So your religious heaven is communism.

I'm not there yet, and I'm not a socialist, just saying...

That's where you're going.

 

[bripat9643]

But it's really nice out here in heaven....Here's something I can tell ya...

You are wrong
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You say that I am wrong? That's called middle heaven in the Bible or where the "god of the world and prince of the power of the air" and his demons live. god has you hooked but good.

Communism has never existed. It's the Utopia/heaven for people that follow the socialist religion. Isolated communist groups have been created, but ultimately failed, probably due to human greed.

So calling non-believers communists shows ignorance. Which you show towards common sense too.

Communist communities fail because communism can't possibly work. Blaming "greed" only demonstrates that you are in fact a communist.

 

[james bond]

So calling non-believers communists shows ignorance. Which you show towards common sense too.

Last point first. Aren't you the one who is hellbound and hooked by the prince and god?

To the contrary, I've read Karl Marx. He said, "Communism begins at the outset with atheism; but atheism is at first far from being communism; indeed, that atheism is still mostly an abstraction." Once it takes root, then we know it becomes state atheism. Vladimir Lenin similarly wrote the same. Did you miss learning about the 50s in high school or something?

Private Property and Communism, Marx, 1844

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I'm obviously WAY late to this discussion, but my take on discovering life on other planets is sort of like how explorers discovered life in other part of our planet. If there is life elsewhere in the universe, then they too are part of God's plan.

There you have it. There is no need for any conflict between science and theism.

 

[ding]

But it's really nice out here in heaven....Here's something I can tell ya...

You are wrong
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You say that I am wrong? That's called middle heaven in the Bible or where the "god of the world and prince of the power of the air" and his demons live. god has you hooked but good.

Communism has never existed. It's the Utopia/heaven for people that follow the socialist religion. Isolated communist groups have been created, but ultimately failed, probably due to human greed.

So calling non-believers communists shows ignorance. Which you show towards common sense too.

Karl Marx said that communism is naturalized humanism. Was he wrong?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Karl Marx said that communism is naturalized humanism.

For those not familiar with ding's old as dirt parlor tricks, this is the beginning of 9 pages of a fallacy called "non sequitur".

Enjoy!

 

[ding]

Karl Marx said that communism is naturalized humanism.

For those not familiar with ding's old as dirt parlor tricks, this is the beginning of 9 pages of a fallacy called "non sequitur".

Enjoy!

Wrong. Karl Marx wrote is considered the father of communism. So his views on secular humanism leading to communism are relevant and important. Especially since that is exactly what history has shown.

Case in point: The Khmer Rouge abolished all religion and dispersed minority groups, forbidding them to speak their languages or to practice their customs. These policies had been implemented in less severe forms for many years prior to the Khmer Rouge's taking power.

The only one using parlor tricks is you as you have no factual or logical argument to make. Tell you what... you keep slinging mud at me while I continue to make my case.

 

[james bond]

I'm obviously WAY late to this discussion, but my take on discovering life on other planets is sort of like how explorers discovered life in other part of our planet. If there is life elsewhere in the universe, then they too are part of God's plan.

You have to read the Bible about this as God would have told us if he created aliens. They are not found in Genesis. The big question is why did Jesus die to save them? This is not a likely scenario for aliens. Furthermore, they would have to be like God as we are. Basically, we would not expect to find aliens based on the Bible, creation science, and scientific theories such as Ferdi's paradox, Drake equation, Great Filter theory, and so on as we would have made contact or discovered aliens by now.

One of the unspoken reasons atheist scientists want to find aliens is to find an error in the Bible. Atheists and their scientists are getting somewhat desperate to find hard evidence for evolution as to start believing in multiverses.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You have to read the Bible about this as God would have told us if he created aliens.

 

[percysunshine]

The end game of the universe is cat videos.

 

[RWS]

But it's really nice out here in heaven....Here's something I can tell ya...

You are wrong
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You say that I am wrong? That's called middle heaven in the Bible or where the "god of the world and prince of the power of the air" and his demons live. god has you hooked but good.

Communism has never existed. It's the Utopia/heaven for people that follow the socialist religion. Isolated communist groups have been created, but ultimately failed, probably due to human greed.

So calling non-believers communists shows ignorance. Which you show towards common sense too.

Karl Marx said that communism is naturalized humanism. Was he wrong?

I don't follow socialism, nor am I a communist. I'm just pointing out the differences. One is a religious system, one is economic, and also a religious Utopia.

I belong to neither. So calling me those names makes me laugh. Just because I don't believe doesn't make me what you say.

 

[james bond]

But it's really nice out here in heaven....Here's something I can tell ya...

You are wrong
View attachment 298224

You say that I am wrong? That's called middle heaven in the Bible or where the "god of the world and prince of the power of the air" and his demons live. god has you hooked but good.

Communism has never existed. It's the Utopia/heaven for people that follow the socialist religion. Isolated communist groups have been created, but ultimately failed, probably due to human greed.

So calling non-believers communists shows ignorance. Which you show towards common sense too.

Karl Marx said that communism is naturalized humanism. Was he wrong?

I don't follow socialism, nor am I a communist. I'm just pointing out the differences. One is a religious system, one is economic, and also a religious Utopia.

I belong to neither. So calling me those names makes me laugh. Just because I don't believe doesn't make me what you say.

It's hard for us to see your credibility on this, so I think we established atheism leads to communism per Marx, Lenin, Stalin, historical facts, etc.

 

[james bond]

You have to read the Bible about this as God would have told us if he created aliens.

What do you know about Genesis? Nothing. Thus, you are laughing hysterically about something you do not understand as part of science.

As has been stated, the Bible is not a science book, but science backs up the Bible. There has been absolutely no evidence of aliens while we have discovered the fine tuning facts, solar radiation, the harshness of space, how many planets do not have what is needed to support life, no abiogenesis on Earth and elsewhere, and more.

 

[RWS]

But one thing is for sure. Your wealth and status will not carry over to the afterlife. If there is one. You will follow a communist economy, or none at all.

 

[bripat9643]

You have to read the Bible about this as God would have told us if he created aliens.

What do you know about Genesis? Nothing. Thus, you are laughing hysterically about something you do not understand as part of science.

As has been stated, the Bible is not a science book, but science backs up the Bible. There has been absolutely no evidence of aliens while we have discovered the fine tuning facts, solar radiation, the harshness of space, how many planets do not have what is needed to support life, no abiogenesis on Earth and elsewhere, and more.

Where does science backup the Bible?

 

[ding]

But it's really nice out here in heaven....Here's something I can tell ya...

You are wrong
View attachment 298224

You say that I am wrong? That's called middle heaven in the Bible or where the "god of the world and prince of the power of the air" and his demons live. god has you hooked but good.

Communism has never existed. It's the Utopia/heaven for people that follow the socialist religion. Isolated communist groups have been created, but ultimately failed, probably due to human greed.

So calling non-believers communists shows ignorance. Which you show towards common sense too.

Karl Marx said that communism is naturalized humanism. Was he wrong?

I don't follow socialism, nor am I a communist. I'm just pointing out the differences. One is a religious system, one is economic, and also a religious Utopia.

I belong to neither. So calling me those names makes me laugh. Just because I don't believe doesn't make me what you say.

Socialism is all three.

 

[james bond]

Where does science backup the Bible?

Let there be light. Science has found the electromagnetic spectrum (EMS) as light.