The commie government agency THE FDA, wants to regulate the cheese on a pizza.

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wingers just can't stop whining

 

[Thinker101]

That's what you think the job of the federal government is, to protect people from themselves?

Maybe in a dictatorship or Communist country, but not in a free society. Our founders wrote what the duties of the federal government were, and not one was written on their responsibility to tell you WTF to eat.

No the govt. is not protecting people from themselves since the pizza joint is not owned by the customer...There is no such thing as a free society....

Not if left to the Democrats there isn't.

The pizza joint doesn't have to be owned by the people to realize pizza is not the most healthy thing for you to eat. We have the internet now, and you can get that information anytime you need or want it.

There is nothing wrong with pizza and it can have healthy ingredients and it helps to build that pizza if the consumer is informed of the choices and the specific details of the ingredients..
Not everyone in the world has access to the internet..

You don't need access to the internet if you have common sense. Most Republicans have it but only a few Democrats do.

I know what's in a pizza for crying out loud. I know the amount of calories they have and affects to the body. But for the life of me, I never heard one story about a fat person getting skinny because the government forced restaurants to post calorie count on their items. All it is is an expense to the businesses that they didn't need, and of course, what us consumers ultimately pay for. They have to change their wall menus, their table menus, have to hire labs or agencies to figure out what each item contains, and for what? Nothing.

Where the real money is spent is people still breast feeding off of the government because they can't feed themselves.

Yeah republicans have inherent behavior skills to tell them the calorie content of a portioned food item...Better get the boots out it's getting deep in here...We know you don't care that some people care..

Dang, get me on that bus, I certainly don't care.

 

[Moonglow]

wingers just can't stop whining

Next up: Why we don't need no drivers license books issued by the gov. cause people can see how to drive....

 

[Moonglow]

No the govt. is not protecting people from themselves since the pizza joint is not owned by the customer...There is no such thing as a free society....

Not if left to the Democrats there isn't.

The pizza joint doesn't have to be owned by the people to realize pizza is not the most healthy thing for you to eat. We have the internet now, and you can get that information anytime you need or want it.

There is nothing wrong with pizza and it can have healthy ingredients and it helps to build that pizza if the consumer is informed of the choices and the specific details of the ingredients..
Not everyone in the world has access to the internet..

You don't need access to the internet if you have common sense. Most Republicans have it but only a few Democrats do.

I know what's in a pizza for crying out loud. I know the amount of calories they have and affects to the body. But for the life of me, I never heard one story about a fat person getting skinny because the government forced restaurants to post calorie count on their items. All it is is an expense to the businesses that they didn't need, and of course, what us consumers ultimately pay for. They have to change their wall menus, their table menus, have to hire labs or agencies to figure out what each item contains, and for what? Nothing.

Where the real money is spent is people still breast feeding off of the government because they can't feed themselves.

Yeah republicans have inherent behavior skills to tell them the calorie content of a portioned food item...Better get the boots out it's getting deep in here...We know you don't care that some people care..

Dang, get me on that bus, I certainly don't care.

 

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wingers just can't stop whining

Next up: Why we don't need no drivers license books issued by the gov. cause people can see how to drive....

maybe i'm crazy, but it seems like every fast food place i've ben to in the past few years already has this in place.

how hard can it be?

 

[Thinker101]

That's what you think the job of the federal government is, to protect people from themselves?

Maybe in a dictatorship or Communist country, but not in a free society. Our founders wrote what the duties of the federal government were, and not one was written on their responsibility to tell you WTF to eat.

No the govt. is not protecting people from themselves since the pizza joint is not owned by the customer...There is no such thing as a free society....

Not if left to the Democrats there isn't.

The pizza joint doesn't have to be owned by the people to realize pizza is not the most healthy thing for you to eat. We have the internet now, and you can get that information anytime you need or want it.

There is nothing wrong with pizza and it can have healthy ingredients and it helps to build that pizza if the consumer is informed of the choices and the specific details of the ingredients..
Not everyone in the world has access to the internet..

Gee, not everyone in the world has access to pizza either. And those without internet probably don't care what's in pizza.

Including Jews and Muslims...

Pretty sure a Muslim in....let's say Algeria....won't be ordering a pizza from anyplace I frequent.

 

[Moonglow]

No the govt. is not protecting people from themselves since the pizza joint is not owned by the customer...There is no such thing as a free society....

Not if left to the Democrats there isn't.

The pizza joint doesn't have to be owned by the people to realize pizza is not the most healthy thing for you to eat. We have the internet now, and you can get that information anytime you need or want it.

There is nothing wrong with pizza and it can have healthy ingredients and it helps to build that pizza if the consumer is informed of the choices and the specific details of the ingredients..
Not everyone in the world has access to the internet..

Gee, not everyone in the world has access to pizza either. And those without internet probably don't care what's in pizza.

Including Jews and Muslims...

Pretty sure a Muslim in....let's say Algeria....won't be ordering a pizza from anyplace I frequent.

They do in Noel Missouri...pop 1,500...Where they is rightist friendly folks and handle yer money and yer food without washing da hands...

 

[MisterBeale]

You wouldn't buy a car without knowing the details of the vehicle and that information is printed in magazines, newspapers and flyers for consumers...

And I wouldn't think that would require the government to pass laws mandating that that information be posted all over the walls of the dealership. Notice that all of the information you listed is provided voluntarily, and people are expected to be able to access it without any government help.

Yes the govt. does make them provide information, one such item is gas mileage on the sales display window sticker...

I didn't know that was a government requirement. I thought dealerships did so for sales purposes.

But you know......we can take this a step further. I think we need a law that every item sold in this country has to have an environmental cost on the price tag. If you buy a car for 20K, it should inform the purchaser that 8K of that money went to make that vehicle greener. If you buy a lawnmower for 400 bucks, it should include information that 100 bucks of that went to environmental causes. Same with furnaces, canned goods in stores, home furnishings, just let everybody know. Gasoline for $2.50 a gallon? $1.00 per gallon went to green initiatives.

The problem we have with environment in this country is that it's intrinsic in the price of what we pay per item. Maybe we should take a tip from the Democrats and use the same tactics to attack their causes.

Boy would you hear the screaming and howling then.

. . . . each illegal immigrant that they allow into the nation and into their sanctuary cities, will add X x 10,000 tons of carbon due to consumption into the atmosphere and will be worse for their climate change paradigm than anything the oil companies are doing.


For everyone knows, the greater the population of the US compared to folks staying in third world nations, the worse so called AGW becomes. . . . .


The lack of consistency of the left is mind boggling.

An excellent argument for killing our aged.....

Perhaps. If you buy into that AGW fairy tale.

Also an excellent argument for killing everyone that voted for Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump.

But I don't subscribe to moral relativism, or endorse things like the Killing fields, the Holodomor, the cultural revolution or the Holocaust. If you go carrying pictures of Chairmen Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow.

The "end justify the means" and Machiavellian philosophy doesn't jive with me.

 

[MisterBeale]

wingers just can't stop whining

Next up: Why we don't need no drivers license books issued by the gov. cause people can see how to drive....

Only in a dream state. .. .

 

[Moonglow]

wingers just can't stop whining

Next up: Why we don't need no drivers license books issued by the gov. cause people can see how to drive....

maybe i'm crazy, but it seems like every fast food place i've ben to in the past few years already has this in place.

how hard can it be?

They have...and they still managed to turn a profit...

 

[Vandalshandle]

And I wouldn't think that would require the government to pass laws mandating that that information be posted all over the walls of the dealership. Notice that all of the information you listed is provided voluntarily, and people are expected to be able to access it without any government help.

Yes the govt. does make them provide information, one such item is gas mileage on the sales display window sticker...

I didn't know that was a government requirement. I thought dealerships did so for sales purposes.

But you know......we can take this a step further. I think we need a law that every item sold in this country has to have an environmental cost on the price tag. If you buy a car for 20K, it should inform the purchaser that 8K of that money went to make that vehicle greener. If you buy a lawnmower for 400 bucks, it should include information that 100 bucks of that went to environmental causes. Same with furnaces, canned goods in stores, home furnishings, just let everybody know. Gasoline for $2.50 a gallon? $1.00 per gallon went to green initiatives.

The problem we have with environment in this country is that it's intrinsic in the price of what we pay per item. Maybe we should take a tip from the Democrats and use the same tactics to attack their causes.

Boy would you hear the screaming and howling then.

. . . . each illegal immigrant that they allow into the nation and into their sanctuary cities, will add X x 10,000 tons of carbon due to consumption into the atmosphere and will be worse for their climate change paradigm than anything the oil companies are doing.


For everyone knows, the greater the population of the US compared to folks staying in third world nations, the worse so called AGW becomes. . . . .


The lack of consistency of the left is mind boggling.

An excellent argument for killing our aged.....

Perhaps. If you buy into that AGW fairy tale.

Also an excellent argument for killing everyone that voted for Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump.

But I don't subscribe to moral relativism, or endorse things like the Killing fields, the Holodomor, the cultural revolution or the Holocaust. If you go carrying pictures of Chairmen Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow.

The "end justify the means" and Machiavellian philosophy doesn't jive with me.

Still, you get an A+ for spinning global warming as a reason to deport DACAs! I see a movie it it! Perhaps on the lone of "Sharkanado!".

 

[Dragonlady]

I was on weight watchers in the later 1960's I was so big, at 11 I was at 168 pounds...

it works if you stay on it, and try not to be too far over on your weekly point allotment.

Down 21 lbs since january.

It also makes you want to work out as you "buy" more points via exercise.

Good healthy weight loss. Congratulations!

I lost a lot of weight when I retired, and I was eating whatever I wanted. I was also doing all my own cooking because I couldn’t afford to go out to lunch every day. A friend pointed out I was totally controlling how much fat and sugar I was eating. I’ve also completely eliminated pop from my diet, replacing it with ice tea.

I’ve read articles which say that processed foods are full of chemicals our bodies weren’t designed to digest. The foods bind with the chemicals and our bodies store them as fat because they can’t properly digest them. I know that when I changed over from processed foods to organic, I lost weight without making any other changes in what I was eating.

I rarely trust those holistic type sites because 1/2 the time the people running them are trying to sell something (and about the other 1/2 they have no real basis in science).

To me dieting is simple:

Step 1: Eat less you fat bastard
Step 2: Exercise you lazy bastard.

But if it works for you, go with it. I've had people say my methods are sub-optimal, but they work as long as I stick with them.

So true on the food websites. I’ve clicked on so many articles which look interesting only to have it turn out to be an ad for some new “miracle diet”.

Poker teachers will tell you that the best poker level to play is the one you can win at. You’re winning. There may be more “optimal” systems out there but if you can’t stick with them, they’re not optimal at all.

I use the “Eat to Win” diet principles. High carbs, low fat, low sugar. I don’t own a car so I’m out every day, either walking or biking, weather permitting. In the summer I swim. I can feel the arthritis in my knees and hips, so I need to keep active to keep it at bay.

Do you ever get sick of trying to control people you disagree with?

Do you ever get sick of making a total fool of yourself?

 

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wingers just can't stop whining

Next up: Why we don't need no drivers license books issued by the gov. cause people can see how to drive....

maybe i'm crazy, but it seems like every fast food place i've ben to in the past few years already has this in place.

how hard can it be?

They have...and they still managed to turn a profit...

but, but.....obama

 

[Dragonlady]

Yeah, a counter clerk usually has no idea what is on the menu much less the content of each ingredient...You are asking way too much of a simpleton who can only get a counter clerk job in a restaurant...

The specific point is...

Make it a competative point for your business. The owners will do it or lose your dollars, especially in the insanely competitive pizza industry.

The general point is...there is no need for one of only 2 Statist solutions. The free market makes it happen.

The free market doesn’t do shit

Unless everyone has to comply, nobody will

Why didn’t the free market end smoking in restaurants?

Because if there was a bar in town that allowed smoking, it would put the rest out of business.

I don’t think that’s true. I stopped going to bars because of the smoking. My asthma just couldn’t handle it. When smoking was banned I started going to bars again. Nobody likes to go home with their hair and clothes stinking of smoke.

Most of the smokers I know don’t even smoke in their own homes. Anyone with kids smokes on their porch, even in winter.

 

[Dragonlady]

says someone who thinks von hayek wasn't a crackpot

One of the central thesis's behind Keynesianism is that "War is good for the health of the economy."

Nice economic philosophy.

Don't talk to us about who the crack pot is.

War is good for the economy. WWII pulled the world out of the Great Depression. Supplying the reconstruction of Europe created the wealth of the middle class America in the 1950’s and 60’s.

It’s hell on the population and not so good for the losing side but great for the economy.

 

[skye]

the populus ...or the population...the masses really

will never... ever make the perfect pizza for me lol

I want the best cheese....not Kraft my dears....not Kraft at all

but the best Swiss cheese....

oh well

perhaps this is another topic....

 

[dblack]

wingers just can't stop whining

Next up: Why we don't need no drivers license books issued by the gov. cause people can see how to drive....

maybe i'm crazy, but it seems like every fast food place i've ben to in the past few years already has this in place.

how hard can it be?

I don't know. I'd assume there are costs that aren't obvious. Making claims about the calorie content of the food they serve would expose them to legal accountability for the accuracy of the estimates.

But yeah, it's not a big deal. It does ramp up the regulatory burden - which is often what steers small businesses away from becoming large. And that's another thing... if it's wrong for a large business to sell food without certain labels and specifications , why is it ok for the small businesses?

Anyway, my opposition to this kind of regulation is just the social engineering mindset of it all. We don't need government to tell us how to live. We can feed, educate, cloth and care for ourselves with out a bunch of idiotic laws overriding our every judgement.

 

[Dragonlady]

If the federal government says its going to do something that benefits me, I can count on it not benefiting me in anyway.
That’s just the way it is... no two ways about it

That’s because in Putin doesn’t give a rat’s ass about you. It’s not like you can vote him out.

 

[skye]

Eat pizza with a cheap disgusting cheese?

NO WAY

That's where I draw the line.

I mean it!

 

[MisterBeale]

Yeah, a counter clerk usually has no idea what is on the menu much less the content of each ingredient...You are asking way too much of a simpleton who can only get a counter clerk job in a restaurant...

The specific point is...

Make it a competative point for your business. The owners will do it or lose your dollars, especially in the insanely competitive pizza industry.

The general point is...there is no need for one of only 2 Statist solutions. The free market makes it happen.

The free market doesn’t do shit

Unless everyone has to comply, nobody will

Why didn’t the free market end smoking in restaurants?

Because if there was a bar in town that allowed smoking, it would put the rest out of business.

I don’t think that’s true. I stopped going to bars because of the smoking. My asthma just couldn’t handle it. When smoking was banned I started going to bars again. Nobody likes to go home with their hair and clothes stinking of smoke.

Most of the smokers I know don’t even smoke in their own homes. Anyone with kids smokes on their porch, even in winter.

Nope, no disagreements here.

The ban definitely changed the culture. Now, even smokers don't like their cars and houses smelling like stale smoke.

If the law were repealed though, some bar would put them all out of business by allowing it though. Maybe not, those new newfangled vape thingies have really changed the market. Interesting how the free market works.