The Democratic Party guarantees the U.S. to fail

[natstew]

The Democrats have been pushing the Democracy thing on the American People until most Americans really think the United States was created as a Democracy, not a Republic, which is a lie!

Founding Father's Quotes on Why Democracy Will Cause the Fail of Our Nation » The Free Patriot

 

[natstew]

Our Founding Fathers rejected Democracy as "the most vile form of government", and the Democrats have confirmed that!

Quotes on Democracy Vs Republic

 

[natstew]

Nowhere in our founding documents is the word "democracy" written. Our Founders were well educated on democracies in history and they intentionally avoided even using the word.

the Democrats now brag about democracy, like they're proud of destroying The United States Of America.

America*is a Constitutional*Republic . . . NOT a Democracy

"Many people are under the false impression our form of government is a democracy, or representative democracy. This is of course completely untrue. The Founders were extremely knowledgeable about the issue of democracy and feared a democracy as much as a monarchy. They understood that the only entity that can take away the people's freedom is their own government, either by being too weak to protect them from external threats or by becoming too powerful and taking over every aspect of life."

 

[natstew]

The Democratic Party is, and should be declared a subversive organization and banned.

 

[Derideo_Te]

 

[Wildman]

The Democratic Party is, and should be declared a subversive organization and banned.

banned....????

NO !!

EXECUTED !!

YES !!
the democRATS are so fucked up and stupid they do not know themselves what they want to be called, one time it's democRATs, then democRATics, why they want the "ic" at the end of that word is beyond my comprehension, they also stole the "blue" from the REPUBLICANS, they did not want their party known as the "REDS" which at the time of the theft it was commies who were known widly as the "REDS"

the democratic party is an organization of traitors and should be dealt with accordingly,
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[NYcarbineer]

De`moc´ra`cy Pronunciation: dė`mǒk´rå`sŷ

n. 1. Government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained and directly exercised by the people.

2. Government by popular representation; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained by the people, but is indirectly exercised through a system of representation and delegated authority periodically renewed; a constitutional representative government; a republic.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The democrats and republicans guarantee the US to failure. The founders warned of our current travesty.

 

[norwegen]

De`moc´ra`cy Pronunciation: dė`mǒk´rå`sŷ

n. 1. Government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained and directly exercised by the people.

2. Government by popular representation; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained by the people, but is indirectly exercised through a system of representation and delegated authority periodically renewed; a constitutional representative government; a republic.

Democracy is not a government "by the people" that the founders established or that Abraham Lincoln referred to in his Gettysburg Address.

 

[Moonglow]

De`moc´ra`cy Pronunciation: dė`mǒk´rå`sŷ

n. 1. Government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained and directly exercised by the people.

2. Government by popular representation; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained by the people, but is indirectly exercised through a system of representation and delegated authority periodically renewed; a constitutional representative government; a republic.

Democracy is not a government "by the people" that the founders established or that Abraham Lincoln referred to in his Gettysburg Address.

Oh really, then what was it???

 

[norwegen]

De`moc´ra`cy Pronunciation: dė`mǒk´rå`sŷ

n. 1. Government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained and directly exercised by the people.

2. Government by popular representation; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained by the people, but is indirectly exercised through a system of representation and delegated authority periodically renewed; a constitutional representative government; a republic.

Democracy is not a government "by the people" that the founders established or that Abraham Lincoln referred to in his Gettysburg Address.

Oh really, then what was it???

Democracy was then what it is now: popular government. That is, a government not respectful of the natural law or the rule of law. It was not unique in the 1780s. It would not have set America apart among the nations of the world.

 

[Moonglow]

Democracy is not a government "by the people" that the founders established or that Abraham Lincoln referred to in his Gettysburg Address.

Oh really, then what was it???

Democracy was then what it is now: popular government. That is, not a government respectful of the natural law.

Considering that there are three forms of natural law,
1. Divine Natural Law
2. Secular Natural Law
3. Historical Natural Law

why don't you define your idea of natural law that you think democracy fails...

 

[Howey]

The Democrats have been pushing the Democracy thing on the American People until most Americans really think the United States was created as a Democracy, not a Republic, which is a lie!

Founding Father's Quotes on Why Democracy Will Cause the Fail of Our Nation » The Free Patriot

de·moc·ra·cy
diˈmäkrəsē/Submit
noun
1.
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

I hope you realize you've proven the exact opposite of what you wished. The United States are a Democratic Republic.

Why were the founding fathers against "direct" democracy, which is what you really mean?

Because they feared it gave too much power to the states.

The legislatures acted as if they were virtually omnipotent. There were no effective State Constitutions to limit the legislatures because most State governments were operating under mere Acts of their respective legislatures which were mislabeled “Constitutions.” Neither the governors nor the courts of the offending States were able to exercise any substantial and effective restraining influence upon the legislatures in defense of The Individual’s unalienable rights, when violated by legislative infringements.

From Jefferson, on Virginia:

All the powers of government, legislative, executive, judiciary, result to the legislative body. The concentrating these in the same hands is precisely the definition of despotic government. It will be no alleviation that these powers will be exercised by a plurality of hands, and not by a single one. 173 despots would surely be as oppressive as one.

Democracy” derives from the Greek terms demos meaning “common people” and kratos meaning “rule, strength,” which together morphed into demokratia meaning “popular government.”

Few would argue that the government of the United States does not derive its power from its people. In fact, one of the greatest American presidents, Abraham Lincoln, described our nation as having a “government of the people, by the people [and] for the people.”

Proponents of America as democracy identify a few fundamental principles common to democracies, including “democratic representation, the rule of law, and constitutional protections,” and this is consistent with Aristotle’s primary criterion for a democracy, which is that each person shared in “numerical equality.”

The U.S. government in the modern era has, likewise, discarded the limited definitions of pure democracy and direct democracy in favor of an expanded version:

Democracy is the institutionalization of freedom . . . .[P]ower and civic responsibility are exercised by all adult citizens, directly, or through their freely elected representatives . . . . [where] all levels of government must be as accessible and responsive to the people as possible . . . . [and] protect such basic human rights as freedom of speech and religion . . . equal protection under law . . .[and] the opportunity to organize and participate fully in the political, economic, and cultural life of society.

Ultimately, in a democracy, “regular free and fair elections open to citizens of voting age” are the norm.

This is certainly the case in America and each of its fifty states. So, clearly, the United States is, under the modern definition of the term, a democracy.

 

[Moonglow]

What I am not amazed is the ignorance of the writers on published sites, have no idea what kind of government we actually have....

 

[norwegen]

Oh really, then what was it???

Democracy was then what it is now: popular government. That is, not a government respectful of the natural law.

Considering that there are three forms of natural law,
1. Divine Natural Law
2. Secular Natural Law
3. Historical Natural Law

why don't you define your idea of natural law that you think democracy fails...

Democracy is none of these. It is popular government. It does not necessarily reject an inherited aristocracy or political class.

 

[auditor0007]

The Democratic Party is, and should be declared a subversive organization and banned.

This is the kind of "intelligent" conversation we get from right wing loons.

 

[Truthbetold]

Democracies always self-destruct when the non-productive majority realizes that it can vote itself handouts from the productive minority by electing the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury. To maintain their power, these candidates must adopt an ever-increasing tax and spend policy to satisfy the ever-increasing desires of the majority. As taxes increase, incentive to produce decreases, causing many of the once productive to drop out and join the non-productive. When there are no longer enough producers to fund the legitimate functions of government and the socialist programs, the democracy will collapse, always to be followed by a Dictatorship.

Even though nearly every politician, teacher, journalist and citizen believes that our Founders created a democracy, it is absolutely not true. The Founders knew full well the differences between a Republic and a Democracy. They repeatedly and emphatically said that they had founded a Republic.

Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "guarantees to every state in this union a Republican form of government".... Conversely, the word Democracy is not mentioned even once in the Constitution. Madison warned us of the dangers of democracies with these words,

"Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths...",
"We may define a republic to be ... a government which derives all its powers directly or indirectly from the great body of the people, and is administered by persons holding their offices during pleasure for a limited period, or during good behavior. It is essential to such a government that it be derived from the great body of the society, not from an inconsiderable proportion or a favored class of it; otherwise a handful of tyrannical nobles, exercising their oppressions by a delegation of their powers, might aspire to the rank of republicans and claim for their government the honorable title of republic." James Madison, Federalist No. 10, (1787)

"A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority. There is but little virtue in the action of masses of men." Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

Our military training manuals used to contain the correct definitions of Democracy and Republic. The following comes from Training Manual No. 2000-25 published by the War Department, November 30, 1928.

DEMOCRACY:

A government of the masses.
Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of "direct" expression.
Results in mobocracy.
Attitude toward property is communistic--negating property rights.
Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether is be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences.
Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.
REPUBLIC:

Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them.
Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences.
A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass.
Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy.
Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress.
Is the "standard form" of government throughout the world.

 

[NYcarbineer]

De`moc´ra`cy Pronunciation: dė`mǒk´rå`sŷ

n. 1. Government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained and directly exercised by the people.

2. Government by popular representation; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained by the people, but is indirectly exercised through a system of representation and delegated authority periodically renewed; a constitutional representative government; a republic.

Democracy is not a government "by the people" that the founders established or that Abraham Lincoln referred to in his Gettysburg Address.

Yeah, a word composed of demo- meaning people and 'cracy meaning rule or power couldn't possibly be referring to a government by the people.

lol, jesus christ! you people...

 

[norwegen]

De`moc´ra`cy Pronunciation: dė`mǒk´rå`sŷ

n. 1. Government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained and directly exercised by the people.

2. Government by popular representation; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained by the people, but is indirectly exercised through a system of representation and delegated authority periodically renewed; a constitutional representative government; a republic.

Democracy is not a government "by the people" that the founders established or that Abraham Lincoln referred to in his Gettysburg Address.

Yeah, a word composed of demo- meaning people and 'cracy meaning rule or power couldn't possibly be referring to a government by the people.

lol, jesus christ! you people...

You're exactly right, NYcarbineer. Regarding America, anyway. Democracy is not a government by the people in this country. At least, not before the Progressive Era.

The American government was unique because it had no inherited aristocracy. It was a republic without a king or court. Given a certain few constitutional qualifications, anyone could be president. Anyone could be a senator or representative. Anyone could be a judge. In America, a government of and by the people didn't mean "regular free and fair elections." It meant that officers and judges were the people.