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Here's an idea...
Keep the drinking age 21 for civilians, but if you have a valid military ID you can drink at 18.
The states are free to do whatever they want. Federal extortion was found unconstitutional in the ACA ruling.
Here's an idea...
Keep the drinking age 21 for civilians, but if you have a valid military ID you can drink at 18.
Disagree completely. Why should someone get special rights just because they're in the military? If you're an adult at 18, then you're an adult at 18. We tell them they're adults, but then keep treating them like children. Just maybe that's why so many of them behave that way. 100 years ago teenagers were treated like and expected to act like adults. Then a bunch of quacks invented this concept of adolescence and it all went down hill from there.
Here's an idea...
Keep the drinking age 21 for civilians, but if you have a valid military ID you can drink at 18.
Disagree completely. Why should someone get special rights just because they're in the military? If you're an adult at 18, then you're an adult at 18. We tell them they're adults, but then keep treating them like children. Just maybe that's why so many of them behave that way. 100 years ago teenagers were treated like and expected to act like adults. Then a bunch of quacks invented this concept of adolescence and it all went down hill from there.
Here's an idea...
Keep the drinking age 21 for civilians, but if you have a valid military ID you can drink at 18.
Disagree completely. Why should someone get special rights just because they're in the military? If you're an adult at 18, then you're an adult at 18. We tell them they're adults, but then keep treating them like children. Just maybe that's why so many of them behave that way. 100 years ago teenagers were treated like and expected to act like adults. Then a bunch of quacks invented this concept of adolescence and it all went down hill from there.
I agree that it should be 18 for everyone, that was offered as a compromise.
Personally, I could live with granting this one 'special' right to people willing to lay down their life for my freedom. But that's just me.
There are cries in Australia for the drinking age to be increased from 18 to 21.
Too many irresponsible teens drinking, and causing mayhem...too many lives being lost, and too much violence.
There's always gotta be at least one asshole who ruins it for everybody.
Disagree completely. Why should someone get special rights just because they're in the military? If you're an adult at 18, then you're an adult at 18. We tell them they're adults, but then keep treating them like children. Just maybe that's why so many of them behave that way. 100 years ago teenagers were treated like and expected to act like adults. Then a bunch of quacks invented this concept of adolescence and it all went down hill from there.
I agree that it should be 18 for everyone, that was offered as a compromise.
Personally, I could live with granting this one 'special' right to people willing to lay down their life for my freedom. But that's just me.
I'd rather have the age at 21 for drinking and enlisting.
But your parents should be able to sell you to the military at 13. ; )
Here's an idea...
Keep the drinking age 21 for civilians, but if you have a valid military ID you can drink at 18.
Disagree completely. Why should someone get special rights just because they're in the military? If you're an adult at 18, then you're an adult at 18. We tell them they're adults, but then keep treating them like children. Just maybe that's why so many of them behave that way. 100 years ago teenagers were treated like and expected to act like adults. Then a bunch of quacks invented this concept of adolescence and it all went down hill from there.
Of course you can argue its people's responsibility not to drink and drive but remember that the next time so vodka fueled 19 year old runs into your wife's car and kills her.
What about when a 29 year old does it?
The idea was to keep alcohol away from teens, where the majority of teen car fatalities involved alcohol. As much as I would oppose the policy, it worked. When the drinking age went up to 21 the death rate from alcohol-related traffic fatalities in the under 21 crowd went down.
Of course you can argue its people's responsibility not to drink and drive but remember that the next time so vodka fueled 19 year old runs into your wife's car and kills her.
By the 'saving lives' standard, it can be argued that gun control laws work too. IMO, that alone is wildly insufficient to conclude that it's sound policy.
The idea was to keep alcohol away from teens, where the majority of teen car fatalities involved alcohol. As much as I would oppose the policy, it worked. When the drinking age went up to 21 the death rate from alcohol-related traffic fatalities in the under 21 crowd went down.
Of course you can argue its people's responsibility not to drink and drive but remember that the next time so vodka fueled 19 year old runs into your wife's car and kills her.
By the 'saving lives' standard, it can be argued that gun control laws work too. IMO, that alone is wildly insufficient to conclude that it's sound policy.
No, gun control laws have shown no ability to lower crime, not at all. Raising the drinking age did reduce teen traffic fatality. You can argue all day but those are the facts.
Here's an idea.
Don't let people enlist until they are 21.
Really loving all the "small government" being espoused by the conservatives in this thread. Entirely predictable since they don't actually believe in it.
That is really lame, there is a place for government, this happens to be one of them, we have a big enough problem with 21+ drinking drivers, there's no need to add millions of 18+ to the mix. Actually I should say millions of 16+ because the ones 18 will provide alcohol to their younger friends, just like 21 year olds do now.
Same argument can be made for gun ownership.
And they don't have these problems in Europe because it's not an age factor; it's a cultural issue made worse by prohibition.
What ever happened to the Tenth Amendment argument?
By the 'saving lives' standard, it can be argued that gun control laws work too. IMO, that alone is wildly insufficient to conclude that it's sound policy.
No, gun control laws have shown no ability to lower crime, not at all. Raising the drinking age did reduce teen traffic fatality. You can argue all day but those are the facts.
Who said anything about crime?
I sure didn't.
The states are free to do whatever they want. Federal extortion was found unconstitutional in the ACA ruling.
No, they aren't. Any state that lowers the minimum consumption below 21 forfeits their highway funding. It's extortion.
21 seemed OK but now infanthood is government defined as 26 so what's a reasonable person to do?
Kinda stupid thing to say. Let's get rid of the seatbelt laws too, sure don't want big government.
Actually, it's a perfectly reasonable hypocrisy to point out and I completely agree. I've always opposed seat belt laws. They don't exist for anyone's safety. They exist to criminalize behavior as a method of extracting more money from people to feed into the government coffers.
So now the Tenth Amendment is suddenly out the window because you happen to agree with this form of big government?
The states are free to do whatever they want. Federal extortion was found unconstitutional in the ACA ruling.
you are a sore loser, bub
Here's an idea...
Keep the drinking age 21 for civilians, but if you have a valid military ID you can drink at 18.
