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The Patriots have been cheating since the AFL/NFL merger.
Every year it's something. Back in 2001 it was the Tuck Rule, further than that it was the Snowplow incident. These are just a few but the most famous besides deflate gate and camera gate.
Just to further clarify the idiocy of this comment, the Patriots have been a team for 75 years and the only examples of cheating that you can come up with are:
- A correctly called rule in a playoff game which was made by the referees, not the Patriots.
- An incident where the opposing team was offered the same advantage and declined it.
- An incident where the team was punished for the location they were taping from (not the taping itself).
- An incident where the NFL lawyers have admitted, in court, that they have no proof anything even actually happened.
Interesting.
The cheating began in earnest after Bilicheat came.
True, but they have been cheating since the merger.
How so? Specific examples would be SWELL.
it details a bunch of hot air conjecture... the other owners are sore loser poor sports.
If you ain't cheating you ain't trying hard enough. I play poker with people who show their cards. Of course I'm gonna look. It's why I wear sunglasses.From Spygate to Deflategate: Inside what split the NFL and New England Patriots apart
Cheating has been around for years in NE. Anything from taping other teams signals to stealing playbooks
In fact, many former New England coaches and employees insist that the taping of signals wasn't even the most effective cheating method the Patriots deployed in that era. Several of them acknowledge that during pregame warm-ups, a low-level Patriots employee would sneak into the visiting locker room and steal the play sheet, listing the first 20 or so scripted calls for the opposing team's offense. (The practice became so notorious that some coaches put out fake play sheets for the Patriots to swipe.) Numerous former employees say the Patriots would have someone rummage through the visiting team hotel for playbooks or scouting reports. Walsh later told investigators that he was once instructed to remove the labels and erase tapes of a Patriots practice because the team had illegally used a player on injured reserve. At Gillette Stadium, the scrambling and jamming of the opponents' coach-to-quarterback radio line -- "small s---" that many teams do, according to a former Pats assistant coach -- occurred so often that one team asked a league official to sit in the coaches' box during the game and wait for it to happen. Sure enough, on a key third down, the headset went out.
When the leauge starts losing money because the Cheatriots have turn profession football into the WWE, maybe Goodell will actually punish them for their winning championships by cheating.
The Patriots have been cheating since the AFL/NFL merger.
Every year it's something. Back in 2001 it was the Tuck Rule, further than that it was the Snowplow incident. These are just a few but the most famous besides deflate gate and camera gate.
Just to further clarify the idiocy of this comment, the Patriots have been a team for 75 years and the only examples of cheating that you can come up with are:
- A correctly called rule in a playoff game which was made by the referees, not the Patriots.
- An incident where the opposing team was offered the same advantage and declined it.
- An incident where the team was punished for the location they were taping from (not the taping itself).
- An incident where the NFL lawyers have admitted, in court, that they have no proof anything even actually happened.
Interesting.
The cheating began in earnest after Bilicheat came.
True, but they have been cheating since the merger.
How so? Specific examples would be SWELL.
Obviously you have not read the ESPN piece. It details everything from stealing playbooks to filming other teams signals. Former NE employees were interviewed.
When teams play on Foxboro, they have to lock everything up and post guards to keep the Cheatriots from stealing play information.
Bilicheat had basically had Goodell in his pocket, up to this point. The other 31 owners are tired of the Cheatriots and their antics. READ THE ARTICLE!....if that is possible.
When the leauge starts losing money because the Cheatriots have turn profession football into the WWE, maybe Goodell will actually punish them for their winning championships by cheating.
you can thank ex marketing genius godell for making the NFL look foolish
tom brady deserves so much better and i hope he eventually sues the NFL for defamation damages
When the leauge starts losing money because the Cheatriots have turn profession football into the WWE, maybe Goodell will actually punish them for their winning championships by cheating.
you can thank ex marketing genius godell for making the NFL look foolish
tom brady deserves so much better and i hope he eventually sues the NFL for defamation damages
The Patriots have been cheating since the AFL/NFL merger.
Every year it's something. Back in 2001 it was the Tuck Rule, further than that it was the Snowplow incident. These are just a few but the most famous besides deflate gate and camera gate.
Just to further clarify the idiocy of this comment, the Patriots have been a team for 75 years and the only examples of cheating that you can come up with are:
- A correctly called rule in a playoff game which was made by the referees, not the Patriots.
- An incident where the opposing team was offered the same advantage and declined it.
- An incident where the team was punished for the location they were taping from (not the taping itself).
- An incident where the NFL lawyers have admitted, in court, that they have no proof anything even actually happened.
Interesting.
Garbage all accross the board.
I said that they had been cheating all along but those were the most infamous. Besides being a Patriot excusing moron, are you incapable of reading too?
Care to explain how the tuck rule was cheating by the Patriots? Or what any of the lesser cheating charges have been?
Just to further clarify the idiocy of this comment, the Patriots have been a team for 75 years and the only examples of cheating that you can come up with are:
- A correctly called rule in a playoff game which was made by the referees, not the Patriots.
- An incident where the opposing team was offered the same advantage and declined it.
- An incident where the team was punished for the location they were taping from (not the taping itself).
- An incident where the NFL lawyers have admitted, in court, that they have no proof anything even actually happened.
Interesting.
The cheating began in earnest after Bilicheat came.
True, but they have been cheating since the merger.
How so? Specific examples would be SWELL.
Obviously you have not read the ESPN piece. It details everything from stealing playbooks to filming other teams signals. Former NE employees were interviewed.
When teams play on Foxboro, they have to lock everything up and post guards to keep the Cheatriots from stealing play information.
Bilicheat had basically had Goodell in his pocket, up to this point. The other 31 owners are tired of the Cheatriots and their antics. READ THE ARTICLE!....if that is possible.
Of course I read the article, despite the fact that it was 10,000 words of basically no new information.
1. Stealing playbooks is a common tactic in the NFL, just like signing players from upcoming opponents, getting intel, and then cutting them. You're an absolute fool if you don't think this kind of thing is common practice in the NFL.
2. As far as stealing signals goes: ITS COMPLETELY FUCKING LEGAL. ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
3. I'm guessing that you didn't listen or read anything about what Mike Shanahan said today, otherwise you'd know that all NFL teams are paranoid by nature and routinely do things like sweep opposing locker rooms for bugs.
Having said all that, I'm guessing you still want to keep embarrassing yourself on here with your comments.
The Patriots have been cheating since the AFL/NFL merger.
Every year it's something. Back in 2001 it was the Tuck Rule, further than that it was the Snowplow incident. These are just a few but the most famous besides deflate gate and camera gate.
Just to further clarify the idiocy of this comment, the Patriots have been a team for 75 years and the only examples of cheating that you can come up with are:
- A correctly called rule in a playoff game which was made by the referees, not the Patriots.
- An incident where the opposing team was offered the same advantage and declined it.
- An incident where the team was punished for the location they were taping from (not the taping itself).
- An incident where the NFL lawyers have admitted, in court, that they have no proof anything even actually happened.
Interesting.
Garbage all accross the board.
I said that they had been cheating all along but those were the most infamous. Besides being a Patriot excusing moron, are you incapable of reading too?
Care to explain how the tuck rule was cheating by the Patriots? Or what any of the lesser cheating charges have been?
We covered that before, the Tuck Rule applies to receivers, not QBs. If the arm is going forward, it's an incomplete pass, if not, it's a fumble. there is no tuck rule applying to QBs. Why is that a patriot cheat? Did you see how long it took for those refs to make an easy decision? Kraft affected the decision. that is the only explanation for it. It was cheating. Lesser charges were decisions reversed in favor of the Patriots. Fewer penalties in Foxboro than on the road. and on and on.\
Now I don't expect you to agree and your opinion doesn't count but this is for those who would read this discussion.
The Patriots have been cheating since the AFL/NFL merger.
Every year it's something. Back in 2001 it was the Tuck Rule, further than that it was the Snowplow incident. These are just a few but the most famous besides deflate gate and camera gate.
Just to further clarify the idiocy of this comment, the Patriots have been a team for 75 years and the only examples of cheating that you can come up with are:
- A correctly called rule in a playoff game which was made by the referees, not the Patriots.
- An incident where the opposing team was offered the same advantage and declined it.
- An incident where the team was punished for the location they were taping from (not the taping itself).
- An incident where the NFL lawyers have admitted, in court, that they have no proof anything even actually happened.
Interesting.
The cheating began in earnest after Bilicheat came.
True, but they have been cheating since the merger.
The cheating began in earnest after Bilicheat came.
True, but they have been cheating since the merger.
How so? Specific examples would be SWELL.
Obviously you have not read the ESPN piece. It details everything from stealing playbooks to filming other teams signals. Former NE employees were interviewed.
When teams play on Foxboro, they have to lock everything up and post guards to keep the Cheatriots from stealing play information.
Bilicheat had basically had Goodell in his pocket, up to this point. The other 31 owners are tired of the Cheatriots and their antics. READ THE ARTICLE!....if that is possible.
Of course I read the article, despite the fact that it was 10,000 words of basically no new information.
1. Stealing playbooks is a common tactic in the NFL, just like signing players from upcoming opponents, getting intel, and then cutting them. You're an absolute fool if you don't think this kind of thing is common practice in the NFL.
2. As far as stealing signals goes: ITS COMPLETELY FUCKING LEGAL. ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
3. I'm guessing that you didn't listen or read anything about what Mike Shanahan said today, otherwise you'd know that all NFL teams are paranoid by nature and routinely do things like sweep opposing locker rooms for bugs.
Having said all that, I'm guessing you still want to keep embarrassing yourself on here with your comments.
You are the only one embarrassing yourself moron.
The Patriots have been cheating since the AFL/NFL merger.
Every year it's something. Back in 2001 it was the Tuck Rule, further than that it was the Snowplow incident. These are just a few but the most famous besides deflate gate and camera gate.
Just to further clarify the idiocy of this comment, the Patriots have been a team for 75 years and the only examples of cheating that you can come up with are:
- A correctly called rule in a playoff game which was made by the referees, not the Patriots.
- An incident where the opposing team was offered the same advantage and declined it.
- An incident where the team was punished for the location they were taping from (not the taping itself).
- An incident where the NFL lawyers have admitted, in court, that they have no proof anything even actually happened.
Interesting.
The cheating began in earnest after Bilicheat came.
True, but they have been cheating since the merger.
How so? Specific examples would be SWELL.
Obviously you have not read the ESPN piece. It details everything from stealing playbooks to filming other teams signals. Former NE employees were interviewed.
When teams play on Foxboro, they have to lock everything up and post guards to keep the Cheatriots from stealing play information.
Bilicheat had basically had Goodell in his pocket, up to this point. The other 31 owners are tired of the Cheatriots and their antics. READ THE ARTICLE!....if that is possible.
props to seattle's richard sherman for speaking up...
Seven months after his team lost in the Super Bowl, Seattle Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman has gone to bat for the opponent.
Sherman, reiterating thoughts that Tom Brady's four-game suspension was too severe, said Wednesday that he's happy the punishment was overturned while downplaying cheating allegations against the Patriots.
"at the end of the day, it's handled between the lines," Sherman said. "And if they man up and they beat you straight up, they beat you straight up. You can say they knew your plays or they watched this or they watched that, but a lot of times if you watch film good enough, you find good indicators. You find things. So if you're studying the game the right way, you go out there understanding what plays are coming, and you know when the plays are coming. But can you execute? Can 11 guys stop the other 11 from executing their play?
"And at the end of the day, that's what it's about. You can say you stole scripts or whatever it is, but they still have to win the game. They still have to intercept the ball. They still have to execute. Eleven guys have to execute at the same time. And that's what they did, so give them credit...
Seattle Seahawks' Richard Sherman backs Tom Brady, New England Patriots -- 'It wasn't cheating'
When the leauge starts losing money because the Cheatriots have turn profession football into the WWE, maybe Goodell will actually punish them for their winning championships by cheating.
you can thank ex marketing genius godell for making the NFL look foolish
tom brady deserves so much better and i hope he eventually sues the NFL for defamation damages
"I just destroy my cell phones on occasion." S
When the leauge starts losing money because the Cheatriots have turn profession football into the WWE, maybe Goodell will actually punish them for their winning championships by cheating.
you can thank ex marketing genius godell for making the NFL look foolish
tom brady deserves so much better and i hope he eventually sues the NFL for defamation damages
Shady Brady, the liar...
Tom Brady destroyed his cell phone, told NFL he destroys cell phones all the time
of course your too dense
